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I have just found out my OH has run up a lot of debt (some of it drug related)

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Cadburyaddict · 07/08/2017 01:04

We have been together for several years and have one LO. I found out when i was pregnant that OH had about £7k debt when i didn't think he had any. I had randomly found a letter from the bank talking about a loan and then he also owned up to a bit of credit card debt on top of that (because i had pushed). he said the debt was a slow growth from slight overspending each month and from when his car needed a load of stuff doing to it. i did find this believable at the time. I was a bit panicked though because with going off work for mat leave, we wouldn't have as much money as i had thought originally. i organise all the household bills but we have separate accounts for our own spending money and put money into a different account (that is actually my old one that he doesn't have access to) for all the bills. i know how much he gets paid and how much mat pay i would get so had worked out how much we would have and how much we would need to save to be fine for my mat leave. i felt really lied to and stupid and betrayed.
i have now found out 6 months later that actually he has about four times the amount of debt he told me about when i was pregnant and that quite a large chunk of this was spent on drugs. he is saying that he needed to take what would normally be called recreational drugs to get through the day because of anxiety and stress and low self esteem. he had been taking them for months and months regularly and i had absolutely no idea. i am really upset again about the lying and this huge amount of debt that he has lied about too especially as when the last lot came out i gave him many opportunities to admit to any other stuff and made all sorts of threats about leaving him (that now seem totally pointless and empty). i was also really angry that drugs have been in our house especially as we have a LO.
i now have all of his online banking details for all his accounts. he has a bank account with money in that he is allowed to spend and everything else is going on bills and his debt.
a day doesn't pass by without me thinking about the debt. i am worried that when our mortgage is up for renewal that we won't get another one because of all the debt. i am really worried that after the several years it will take us to pay this debt off, that i will find out he has run up a load more somehow. i also really struggle to trust that he isn't doing anything he shouldn't be.
has anyone else had this sort of situation (drug related or just debt) and it has all worked out fine in the end?
i do want us to be ok and work, but I'm worried i will never trust him again and also worried he will do something else. i don't want to waste four years on paying this debt off to find out i have been betrayed again. i would rather just split up now, him have to deal with his own debt and me and my LO get on with our lives without him (obviously he could still see LO, but i would have custody)
sorry for the long post. i am finding this all really hard to deal with and needed to have a rant.

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DeanKoontz · 07/08/2017 01:20

He needs to leave and take his debt and his drugs with him.

Cadburyaddict · 07/08/2017 01:28

i do feel like that half the time. but the other half of me wants us to get through this and hopes he can come out the other side alright.

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DeanKoontz · 07/08/2017 01:34

You can still support him through this - but not in your home.

He brought drugs into the house and you have a young child. For this alone you should be packing his bags. Now you know about this you have to take action. Hard as that might be.

Want2bSupermum · 07/08/2017 01:40

I think with drugs you have to be very tough. I would be telling him that for as long as he is taking drugs he is not staying in the family home. Make it crystal clear that he doesn't have a family if he is taking drugs.

Having a self esteem issue and anxiety might be legit issues and he should go see his GP for a referral to see someone for the drugs addiction and self reflection issues.

Cadburyaddict · 07/08/2017 01:46

he doesn't have any anymore. he has no way of buying them that i wouldn't know about pretty much straight away as i can see all his bank stuff.
i agree the drugs make it a bigger thing than if it was JUST debt and deceit and lies.
i am so torn though. i know he isn't on any drugs now as he can't be. he has said i can have him drug tested (however i would go about that) and he would be happy to do a wee test or whatever it would take for me to believe he's not taking them now.
he has been to the doctors and has been referred to counselling and also has been going to NA (like alcoholics anonymous but for drugs).
when it all came out, he said he was relieved that i had found out and that it would stop him because it had to.
i am so disappointed that he isn't the man i know or the father i wanted for my baby.
i have told him he will be out the door if there is anymore of anything. i think he believes me. he already thought i wouldn't let him stay at all once i found out

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Isetan · 07/08/2017 05:58

Pay day loans, borrowing from friends and family, dealing on the side, borrowing in your name etc. Don't make the same mistake you made last time, there are still plenty of ways for him to still take drugs and rack up more debt.

Your desperation to 'make it work' will be your undoing because it allows him not to take responsibility for his behaviour.

The only thing you know for sure, is that he's a very convincing liar.

pullingmyhairout1 · 07/08/2017 06:07

Hmmm I was married to and had a child with a man like that. Six months after my son was born I left when the exh turned up at home with a lot of cocaine. Not only did he bring it home he also had stolen my credit card to withdraw cash and pay for it.

Dumbo412 · 07/08/2017 07:02

I've been in a similar place with my husband,and let me tell you, if you end up paying for his debt this relationship will go to pot. You will resent him. You will start to lose respect for him, and to move on from that is virtually impossible.
I can't tell you whether your relationship with this man is workable, but I can tell you from experience you can't help him out of this. He needs to take responsibility and shoulder this burden entirely on his own. I'd recommend an evening job for him, where every penny of the extra wage is to go straight towards his debt.

I was silly enough to help pay things off. This lead to him creating more debt, which I helped with, he then created more in my name knowing a bankruptcy was looming which left me seriously in the shit, during the process of his bankruptcy we were evicted because he was skimming money off the rent.

Please step back, it's his debt and he needs to deal with it. The drugs are a very bad thing I have no experience with what is his excuse?

AdalindSchade · 07/08/2017 07:06

He's financially incontinent and has a drug problem (what has happened to his mental health problems now btw? Since he needed drugs to get through the day previously) and he will fuck up your lives if you stay with him.

Cantdenyit · 07/08/2017 07:58

Why are you taking control of sorting out the debt? What's his role in all this? Just to do as he is told? He doesn't sound as concerned as you are.

Re the drugs, what was he taking, what were the effects on him and when did he stop?

I agree you can't trust him. He could source money elsewhere e.g. another credit card, a loan,borrowing from a mate.

You have two issues don't you, the debt and the drugs. I think he is too much of a liability to be a trustworthy partner and father.

Cadburyaddict · 07/08/2017 08:43

yes there are the two issues, debt and drugs.
im not actually paying the debt off, the debt just means I'm paying more into the household stuff than i would have otherwise.
yes, he is just doing as he is told money wise. that is what he has said he needs as he said for now at least having the choice taken away would help him. it also makes me feel better knowing i can see everything. he doesn't have much money to spend on nothing but does have some.
he was mostly taking coke as a mood lifter/confidence booster, and also he took anti anxiety medication that someone might get prescribed from a doctor but he bought it and took that when he thought he needed it.
he is having counselling for his mental health problems. as for needing drugs to get through the day (at work really, not at home) he doesnt have any now because he can't basically. it was an enforced cold turkey because of the prospect of being out on his arse.
you are absolutely right, he is a very convincing liar and was happy to lie and deceive me for a long time which is one of the main things I'm not happy about.
i do want to make it work, but i am a realistic person and know that it very possibly won't. i didn't want to walk out straight away. i want to give it a chance but i am aware that it might not work.
thanks for sharing your experiences

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Cantdenyit · 07/08/2017 08:48

He was taking cocaine at work?

ShatnersWig · 07/08/2017 08:48

I didn't want to walk out straight away. I want to give it a chance

You first found about his debt six months ago and chose to stay. You decided then not to walk out and to give it a chance.

Except not only had he lied about it for years beforehand, you've now discovered he lied about the amount, he lied about the drugs etc etc.

So, you stayed and gave it a chance and it got worse. Much worse.

But you're still not walking out and are going to give it another chance? How many times do you carry on?

kittybiscuits · 07/08/2017 09:00

Cocaine does not 'help' with mental health problems? Was he buying diazepam? If so, he would not have been prescribed this except possibly in the event of a traumatic experience and then only for 2 weeks. I would be concerned about his excuses for his drug use.

I think the best thing you could do is to take some time for yourself to think through your hopes and doubts, and to seek counselling for yourself to air these properly in a neutral environment. I would ask him to stay elsewhere. If he starts using again, then that's your questions answered.

PelorusJack · 07/08/2017 09:02

You can easily and cheaply buy drug tests from Amazon. He has said you can drug test him so call his bluff and do it. If you do decide to give him another chance why not ask fo regular drug tests.

TheNaze73 · 07/08/2017 09:22

Lying about finances is up there with an affair in my eyes.

Kick this numbnut into touch

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Cadburyaddict · 07/08/2017 09:47

i really do appreciate everyone for taking the time to read and respond. i have told a small number of people in real life and apart from one, they all think i should stay and give it a chance. i know if my friend told me this story i would be certainly be saying leave.

i meant that i didn't want to walk away once i found out about the drugs. i know i found out about some debt months ago. he said he wanted to try to fix the rest himself but in the six months he ran up another six grand because he said was out of control. although I'm not even happy about this excuse. he must have known that the debt wasn't going to go away and continuing to spend a decent wage and extra on drugs and also just pissing it away on lunches out and obnoxious coffees is really stupid.

yes he was taking cocaine at work. what an absolute moron.

i agree, i don't see how taking any drugs would be good for your mental health and surely it makes it worse (if perhaps in the short term it makes them feel better), unless it is medicine that has been prescribed by a doctor.

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ImperialBlether · 07/08/2017 09:49

He spent £30,000 and didn't tell you?

You wouldn't see me for dust.

ShatnersWig · 07/08/2017 09:51

So he's run up another six grand debt since the initial discovery and your friends bar one think you should stay with him?

You have really naive and stupid friends. Listen to yourself when you say "If my friend told me this story I would certainly be saying leave" and seriously get the fuck out of there now. This is NOT going to get better and at some point, it is going to make your life hell.

Joiningfee · 07/08/2017 09:57

I've been with guy addicted to cocaine for 2 years, on and off, never moved in together until this year. He got really good job, told me he wanted to change his life etc. He told me about some debt he had cos of drugs and we agreed a plan for him to pay it off. He was doing very well. After about 2 months of our "happiness" he told me he needed money for his mum hospice care. His parents live abroad where it is very expensive. He showed me the bill and said his sister had paid one already and this was his turn and he felt so ashemed cos he had no money to pay. Stupidly I lent him the money (£3000) and I believed he would pay them back as his good wage was coming next month. Few days after he told me he needed to go back home for a while as his sister called him and told their mum was getting worse. And..he has never come back neither paid any money back to me.He blocked my number, email, comunicator we usually used. I tried to contact his family, friends to get in touch with him. No one of them was keen to help me actually. So I ended up paying this and feeling as utter fool...

Abingdon · 07/08/2017 10:09

kittybiscuits That's no strictly true about diazepam. If someone is asthmatic (or has another condition), they might not be able to take beta blockers which are commonly prescribed for anxiety.

I was prescribed diazepam to take on an as needed basis (i.e. panic attacks, particularly stressful situations) for about 2 years, although the doctor could clearly see that I wasn't abusing by the rate at which I went back for more.

Sorry to derail, but thought I would chip in with a personal experience there!

So sorry to hear this OP, but it does sound like your OH is trying to get better. It's an uphill battle for everyone involved, but people can and do make it out the other side. Fingers crossed your situation works out Flowers

magoria · 07/08/2017 10:21

If you are paying more into the household so he can clear his debt you are effectively paying his debt.

You are paying for his choice to snort £1,000.00 a month up his nose the last 6 months alone.

You cannot micro manage his life/bank to this extent forever and what happens as soon as you stop.

Make sure you disentangle yourself as much as possible so you and DD are secure.

Consider selling rather than renewing the mortgage and do not be persuaded to extend the mortgage to cover his debts.

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