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Sensible female brainpower needed urgently :-)

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atomicskunk · 02/08/2017 11:39

A long time ago I met a woman and we had a relationship which did not last but I never forgot her. I did not see her for over 20 years.
A few years ago after my divorce (16 years wed, 2 grown up kids) I left my number at her place of work. We started a relationship and were engaged and I moved into her place. She had never been married or had any children. After 2 years I decided to move out. There had been issues where she wanted me to stay away, then she would stay away / sleep on the sofa, which obviously could not continue. I always thought these were overreactions but as it was her place I had no choice but to go along with it. There were no major issues like abuse, anything like that, but I was surprised about how few relationship skills she had, conflict resolution, communication etc. Soon after I told her I would find a place of my own, that I was not ending the relationship and when things settled down we would see how things went. I made sure she knew we could still be together, but a couple of months have passed and she is refusing all contact, saying I left the house so what did I expect. She has not given me any concrete reason why we should part. She contacted me the other day and said she was and is still desperately in love with me, on the same day said that the relationship was over. She seems to prefer her single life but I can't work out whether I should keep trying with her or just give up. We are both 50+.

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atomicskunk · 02/08/2017 14:17

I think you're right. We were actually good friends and things were often good fun, people were surprised when we split and a close friend of hers asked me to reconsider moving out, I had hoped it might help but was not to be.

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picklemepopcorn · 02/08/2017 14:37

You don't sound as though you like her. When the list of things you don't like, and can't understand/excuse is that long, why are you trying?
You've said she's immature, adolescent, shallow, bossy, insecure, drinks too much...

atomicskunk · 02/08/2017 14:47

Yes point taken. Until now there hasn't been a proper breakup and I thought moving out would take the pressure off a bit for both of us. She has good qualities obviously, I just don't think she is built for the 'long term' stuff and I just wanted help understanding the bits I couldn't work out.

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atomicskunk · 02/08/2017 15:55

You can still get stuck on people can't you? I did say to her early on that I was not the person she used to know and that I did not expect to see myself reflected back at me when in a relationship. Don't get me wrong she has grievances against me; but she'll say 'you broke my heart - there was nothing wrong with our relationship' and then relate them all to me, so it can't be both can it? In a way I'd still like things to get better.

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springydaffs · 02/08/2017 16:26

The moving out, presented as a fait accomplis, sounds a bit of a number tbh. Especially as you then made it clear you wanted the relationship to continue. It sounds like you were training her on some level esp as you didn't discuss it.

That said, you're on a totally losing wicket while she is in active addiction, sadly.

atomicskunk · 02/08/2017 16:38

What really broke things was when she, for the second time, got older brothers involved in our relationship - one of them had 'warned' me couple of years prior that he would be round to 'sort things out' if he needed to, this time she got brother number 2 involved. How many 50 yr old people do you know who wants to get their big brothers playing piggy in the middle like this?

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springydaffs · 02/08/2017 16:41

Then end the relationship if you are not prepared for her brothers to be involved. Moving out without discussing it, tho expecting the relationship to continue, is controlling imo.

atomicskunk · 02/08/2017 16:44

Couple of weeks prior I was getting texts along the lines of 'you are released to find our true love' and 'let's get together next week and discuss how we end this relationship' - what would you call this? The end of the relationship was never on my mind at this point.

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atomicskunk · 02/08/2017 16:45

^^your true love

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Jellysparks · 02/08/2017 16:47

TBH it sounds like a bad relationship and not worth continuing but also it seems like you want to manipulate lots of "female brainpower" ( what the Fuck is that?) to now queue up to slag her off? Six of one half a dozen of the other.

Stop generating drama, lose contact.

Northernpowerhouse · 02/08/2017 16:47

Hmmm... it does sound like you want a group of women (as MN posters predominantly are) to agree that you are "right".

You don't like her anymore, move on.

atomicskunk · 02/08/2017 16:49

I should say the issue about where I lived came up end of last year also, again without any discussion. Very difficult living in that type of situation.

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CryptoFascist · 02/08/2017 18:14

You can waste your life with people's drama.
She has told you she wants to end the relationship - great! Take her at her word and go live your life.

atomicskunk · 02/08/2017 18:42

Ok Jellysparks etc you are right I am venting mainly because I am basically heartbroken and this is not the only relationship trauma I've had in the last few years, drink has been a factor in both, as has people co-opting other family members into the mix; I've also had to start again with nothing not so long ago and am extremely jumpy when it comes to being told I might have to move house again, but its time to stop.

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springydaffs · 02/08/2017 22:11

I'm so sorry you've had a rough time Atomic Flowers

atomicskunk · 02/08/2017 23:34

Thanks springydaffs life goes on xxx

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Cricrichan · 03/08/2017 00:12

She sounds mentally unstable. You're well out of the relationship. You sound like a nice guy and I'm sure you'll meet a lovely lady soon.

atomicskunk · 03/08/2017 10:27

Thanks! When i told her I was thinking of looking for somewhere to live she even volunteered to help me! Now she says 'you broke me' I just don't get it.

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