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Arranged a date, 2 weeks ago...its tomorrow! Im not sure if I should cancel :(

45 replies

user1496589862 · 29/07/2017 12:01

I always do this! Then when I do actually go ahead and turn up to a date, I never make it past date 2, maybe 3. Im a size 16 and have absolutely no body confidence. Im ok from the head up! Im not saying there is anything wrong with a size 16. Im all for supporting women to love themselves whatever their size and always preaching within my job not to judge yourself, be kind to yourself, but I cant quite support myself, and dont know why!
We have been texting a couple of weeks. In that time I have tried to prep myself and now the day before I am thinking of all excuses possible! All I keep thinking is he will be disappointed. He has seen some pics, but not many and they are basically shoulders upwards. I did throw in a text, saying 'Im no skinny minnie mind', and he didnt reply to that.
I wish I could just think. Right, if he isnt interested, so be it! Im not sure I can take any more knocks. I question if Im ready to date but its been 6 years. So, will I ever be ready!

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Bumdishcloths · 29/07/2017 16:36

I met my husband on an online dating site, he was a complete gentleman and at no point did he request suggestive photos. Plenty of awful, awful people did. It sounds like he's lulled you into a false sense of security and is trying to warm you up for first date sex, never to be seen again. Avoid, avoid, avoid,

Smeaton · 29/07/2017 16:37

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IHopeYourCakeIsShit · 29/07/2017 16:44

I was another about to say Go until I read your update.
What a prat.
I would also say get yourself in a good place before you put yourself out there and by that I don't mean thin, but feeling a bit more together.
Flowers

user1496589862 · 29/07/2017 16:49

Thankyou :)
I wasnt sure if it was me being silly as he has honestly been absolutely fine up until last night. I felt like I was being silly feeling annoyed at him. I thought is this 'banter'? I felt weird this morning about the whole thing and after posting I thought hmm it could be because of this text too, so Im glad I mentioned it now. I just dont know what to say to him.

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JK1773 · 29/07/2017 16:53

Just tell him you found his request totally inappropriate and disrespectful and that it's put you off meeting him. Tell him what a horrible attitude to women he has. Sounds like you've had a lucky escape

ImperialBlether · 29/07/2017 16:59

Look, if you see him tonight you will be meeting him as a woman who is fine with a stranger asking her for naked photos. Not only does she not object, she will actually go on a date with him.

I know it's short notice. It was short notice when he asked for the photo, wasn't it?

I think you should send him a text saying, "I was very uncomfortable with you asking for naked photos yesterday. There are tons of creeps online and they all ask for this. I don't want to meet anyone like that, thanks, so will leave it tonight."

Then block immediately as he'll say something that blames you.

Smeaton · 29/07/2017 17:07

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SleightOfHand · 29/07/2017 17:29

"I found your requests for shower pictures yesterday really inappropriate, you're not for me, so I'll not be meeting up with you"
Then like PP has said, block straight away. You don't want to have to read anything he may send back.

SleightOfHand · 29/07/2017 17:32

Ps, you should feel no guilt what so ever for backing out, that's all he deserves, sending messages like that!

Flyinggeese · 29/07/2017 17:37

Oh no! Was just reading this thread thinking how exciting, you have to go on the date etc etc. then bam! The suggesting text...

Bin him off.

Honestly how can he think this is in any way acceptable even in jest or 'banter'. He's already not treating you right and he's not even met you yet. You deserve so much better OP and there are plenty of men who would never behave like this.

If you're looking. For suggestions as to what to reply, I'd do something like 'I'm not going to meet you tomorrow tomorrow as I found your text about photographs unacceptable and it suggested to me you're looking for a 'hook up' not a date, therefore we are incompatible already!'

Good luck, OP.

Flyinggeese · 29/07/2017 17:38

It's extra creepy that he was OK up until this point, then as the date is imminent he tries to get suggestive. Yuck.

Flyinggeese · 29/07/2017 17:40

X posts. Imperial and other PP's wording is really good.

JetBoyJetGirl · 29/07/2017 17:48

Ok. I had an emotionally unhappy childhood for many reasons, but one of them was: never good enough; hypercritical mother; always told that no one would ever want, love or marry me... I ended up being a complete wreck. I believed I'd never be loved and wasn't worthy of it and so didn't expect love or respect from men. It wasn't pretty.

I married a man who didn't love me (I didn't love him either, to be fair) and we separated after a 12 year loveless and sexless relationship 5 years ago.

After that, I did some online dating. My experience of men on online dating was that I was told I'm not pretty enough; that I'm too fat; that I'm too old (by someone who was older than me) and I can honestly say that I read threads and posts on here where women talked about it being confidence that counts and scoffed at them - if anything I found that men I was confident around sought to punish me for my unwarranted confidence/lack of apology for my physical appearance. All these naive women talking about not being a size 10 and finding men who loved them and they believe it. What utter, deluded nonsense...

So I decided that I was going to give up on men completely. It took a while, but then I did just switch off to it. That was a couple of years ago.

So now, I'm at my heaviest (12 stone, size 14/16), I have a bit of a tummy (which I've never had before) and I had a CS so I now have the dreaded overhang Sad. I look a bit like a fertility idol; all belly, bum, boobs and hips Grin but it didn't matter. It just served as a reminder that no one wanted me anyway and I didn't want them.

So, my body confidence was really low. My dating was zero.

And then, 3 or 4 months ago, I met a man on a night out at the pub and we became instantly inseperable. He is 9 years younger than me. And it's amazing. We've spent the last 3 or 4 months just getting to know each other.

We didn't even kiss until last weekend but it's amazing. He clearly fancies me, ahem. He tells me that, to him, I'm the most beautiful woman. He said he is happy to go at my pace for everything. I wouldn't say the body confidence issue is sorted, but it's definitely less of a problem for me than it was before. He wouldn't dream of asking for photos. He treats me with the utmost respect and, for the first time in my life, I feel loved.

My advice would be to not give these men even a sniff of a second chance. If someone gives you any reason to doubt them when they're supposed to be trying to impress you, they are not worthy of you.

I am the most cynical and unforgiving woman I know when it comes to men's intentions and this man has genuinely blown my mind. If I can find it, you can too.

Don't give any man who shows you that he disrespects women generally the chance to disrespect you personally.

As for this date, I'd text him and tell him you're cancelling the date because of the message he sent last night. If he questions it, you can either ignore him or tell him that if he is prepared to show you such disrespect before he's even met you, then you have no interest in him. It's very empowering.

GiveMeTheTeaAndNobodyGetsHurt · 29/07/2017 18:01

Imperial's reply is perfect. This man no doubt thinks himself a 'good guy', and being reminded that he belongs in the same category as the ubiquitous Online Creep should sting him a bit. Good.

user1496589862 · 30/07/2017 11:00

Thanks everyone :)
Wow! JetBoyJetGirl that is a lovely happy ever after ;) thankyou for sharing your story, really appreciate it. I am very much up on the defensive when it comes to texting and arranging first dates. I have spoken to so many perverts. Its like I have all these barriers up already. I would never entertain such messages, its just he was absolutely fine up until that night. Anyway, I explained his message was disrespectful and he replied saying he was truly sorry and would never want to disrespect me. He was trying to be 'cheeky'.
I do believe he truly was sorry.
I think maybe I need to be in a better place with myself to date anyway so all meant to be.

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user1490465531 · 30/07/2017 11:18

so are you going on the date? sorry but he knew what he was texting.
Hate it when men pass this of as banter or bwing cheeky.
Lame exscuses

user1496589862 · 30/07/2017 11:46

No, I'm not going OP. I get 2 sundays in a month where my dd's go to their dads. 6 whole hours to myself. I have to spend this time wisely and I really did have a strange feeling before the text so that kinda made it feel even more strange. So its me and my own company (again) this sunday :)

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WhatALoadOfOldBollocks · 30/07/2017 15:37

I'm a nurse, so that's a pretty good quality, I think
Absobloodylutely it is Smile

I'm glad you cancelled and told him exactly why. Even if, and it's a big if, he's actually a half way decent bloke who honestly thought he was being cheeky and is embarrassed by how he's come across, he's learnt something. In the meantime you have stuck to your boundaries and that's brilliant.

2 things I would mention about OLD though is that you have to be pretty thick skinned, so only do it if you feel good about yourself, and secondly always give a full length picture so that men know what you look like. The reason I say this is that if you hide something and it happens to be something the man you've arranged to meet doesn't like, you've wasted your time. Plus it's a lot easier to cope with rejection before you've even chatted rather than see the potential disappointment in someone's face in the flesh. That goes for whatever shape or size you are.

HelenaDove · 30/07/2017 20:07

Whataload True and im guessing that will work most of the time but there are men out there who will see a woman as "a project" even if the woman does put a full length picture up.

So be on the lookout for comments like "You look great but you would be an absolute knockout if you............lost/gained weight or dyed your hair blonde" etc etc.

NurseButtercup · 01/08/2017 08:01

Hey op, I came back to catch up and see how your date went and well...what an absolute twat! You had lucky escape! I had date no.2 lined up last week with a man I thought had great potential, he behaved like a gentleman on our first date and was lovely, then randomly he sent me a dick pic on the morning of our date. I don't understand the impatience and race to having sex? Why not pursue the women who are looking for something casual instead of harrassing us women looking for something meaningful and lasting? Bleuurghh yuk Block, delete NEXT!

He actually did you a favour, he helped you to reinforce you boundaries, and you've now got some time to work on your confidence about your body image. Be kind to yourself

@JetBoyJetGirl beautiful story I've got everything crossed that he's your forever. I'm actually quite jealous, but your story has given me some hope that "he" is out there for waiting to meet me.

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