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Am angry and fuming and sick of all this!!

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Twinkie · 14/07/2004 13:46

Right here goes -

Having dinner last night and Sister phones up - DP picks up the phone and has an amiable conversation with her. Puts the phone down and says I better call her back when I've finished cause she said she had been ill (oooohhhh I've been pregnant thanks for giving a shit about me and for sending your neice a birthday card and present!!).

Anyway I rund her back and she spoke without drawing breath for 15 minutes about how she had something wrong with her ears, had been to casualty and there was some fluid build up that had affected her balance and made her be sick - comments like 'you know how I am when I'm sick, can;t do anything have to be looked after and cry like a baby' were repeated often! (Get a fucking grip you are an adult!!) - anyway the first thing I said about me or my family was - ooohhhh I was sick at work yesterday afternnon - I am sure I said it but she did not even acknowledge that I had so I said it again and silence - she then said and I just don't know what to do about my job now - (er are you ignoring everything I say??) - so I just said well whats wrong with your job - 'well you know I don;t like it and want to get another one (I have tried to help her but she thinks it will come knocking a great well paid job in London when she has not held a job for more than ayear and has no experience of working anywhere but locally for the last 15 yeasr!!) and they have now taken me off of my temp contract and employed me full time and they did not even say anything to me about it - I said that there must have been a date agreed when she was no longer a temp and was to be taken on and she said no - she hasn't spoken to her boss about it yet cause she has been ill and get this - she then said 'Well I immediately got on the phone to ACAS about what my rights were' - I asked her why she had done this as she should have just waited and sat down and been honest with her boss and tried to come to some sort of arrangement about notice and gibving her time to look for another job and getting confrontational and spurting things abuot ACAS and rights would probably mean her benig treated far harsher and without then agreeing notivce and helping each other out till she got another job.

She then shouted - Oh you don;t understand do you always trying to give me advie - I suppose you are going to start on about how long I should stay in a job next - I sai well more than 6 months is advisable if you want to come and work in the city - What the fuck for no one will take me on - er no they will take you on but you are going to have to start as a junior doing filing and stuff like that because you can;t walk straight into an investment bank and expect to get a super duper job - its that way it works!!

Anyway I then suffered another 20 minutres of her talking about herself and her problems before I asked her if she heard when I said I had been sick and did she not think that it would have been polite to ask me how I was or at least say oh poor you rather than just ignore me. Her answer was what do I expect pregnant women are always being sick - I said no I am not a sicky pregnant woman and at 23 weeks they are not always sick as a rule and whilst we were about it did she forget to send DD a card or was she trying to make some sort of point by mot sending one because I don;t care if she is cross or envious about me being pregnant but I would rather she didn;t treat DD like a piece of shit because of it!!! - Anyway - why was I moaning I have a perfcet life, nothing in my life has ever been as bad as hers, I have DD, DP and baby on the way, a big house (3 bed semi not exactley Southfork) a good well paid job (er yes after working my arse of for years to get experience and credibility) and plenty of money - er no I am actually in debt after all the custody stuff and am still paying for the divorce and getting shit all from x2b to look after DD as well as pay a childminder and the usual things that you have to buy with no help at all from her father - anyway I said to her that there was no way I could carry on helping her and being there if I got absolutely nothing in return and didn't she think t would be nice to ask how I was and if anything has been sorted with x2b and if Ihad any problems - No she said I have DP to do that and what did I do that was so great that meant so much Well held your fucking hand all the way through the worst experience of your life whilst having to deal with fighting for my daughter in court a nasty violent x2b and then having a breakdown ending up taking sleeping pills and having expensive counselling to stop me stepping in front of the nearest bus oh as well as taking over a week off work to keep you company and make sure you were ok!! and I don't expect thanks or a present or anything like that but I do expect you to at least ask if I am ok.

Well she then said that if I was not going to be reasonable and contribute to the relationship without getting angry she couldn't have any kind of relationship with me at all - I said fair ebnough and she is making ahuge mistake because she is missing out on DP, DD and her new nephew but thats her choice.

I know I should be kinder probably but I am sick of having to forget about me and how I feel and think and being there for her and letting her get away with being pathetic and selfish - nothing is ever her fault and she is always being shit on apparently when things happen in her life mainly because of bad decisions she has made and the way she treats people and how confrontational she is!!!

Anyway rant over - I am now an orphan without any siblings - to top it off DP got cross with me for getting cross and I feel a dope because I am enbarrassed that I have this shit to deal with when he comes from the fucking bradey bunch!!

OP posts:
Twinkie · 14/07/2004 15:52

Good idea Binkie and yes I know she is probably torn up about me being preganant but its more then that she is fine with my cousin who was pregnant when she lost her baby its because it is me.

I think Dp will try and stop us coming to blows and tell her what things are all about he got really cross with her last night he hates seeing me crying but fat and pregnant and crying he can't stand!!

Think the best course of action would be to adopt Kalex as a surrogate sister and winge at her instead (of course whilst listening to her whinges) and let DP sort all this out of she comes to me if not donothing - her loss really!!

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bran · 14/07/2004 16:53

I think eefs is completely right about being bland. Drama queens only live for the reactions they get, being bland really works with my aunt. Never contradict a drama queen, or sympathise too much. Never tell her why she's wrong (or even that she's wrong), just say 'mmm' and change the subject. Don't bother justifying your own actions, or even explaining them, if challenged just say 'it's a pity you feel that way' and change the subject. I always think of my aunt as one of the women on buses who come and sit beside you and tell you all the gory details of their operations, I try not to listen to what she's saying and just make neutral, disinterested comments.

At the last family wedding -
her: I always felt so sorry for you when you were a child
me: mmmm
her: your parents always made you go on sailing holidays even though you got so sea-sick
me: could you pass the white wine please
her: it was child abuse really
me: so what airline did you fly in on?
her: I should have reported it to social services, shouldn't I?
me: when does (aunt's daughter) start back at shool? You'll be pretty busy getting everything sorted won't you.

bran · 14/07/2004 16:55

Should say though that it's much easier for me because she's my aunt and not my sister. So much tougher for you Twinkie because she's your only family, at least my whole family agree that my aunt is a pain the backside and take turns in dealing with her - you have all her problems on your shoulders.

slug · 14/07/2004 19:26

Oh Twinkie, I know how you feel. One of my sisters is a complete drama queen too. She managed to make the whole process of one of our sister's terminal cancer and death be all about her and her family. My siblings have gradually just given up talking to her. I will go to family event sif she's there, but I make no effort to contact her or involve her in my life. At family events I use bran's method of non response.

And you know what? It works. I've stopped being stressed about her and her performances.

Chandra · 14/07/2004 19:53

Appologies if I am repeating what somebody has already said (no time to read the full thread), but FWIW my younger sister is the same, I have given hope of getting any suport from her because I know the only contact I will be getting from her is when SHE needs something. I got to this conclusion long time ago, but only stoped trying to believe she was going to act like grown up the day that she rang me to say that she was having difficulties wth her BF (she has at least 2 diff boyfriends a year) and after an hour of teenager babbling (she is 31 BTW), I told her "I understand how do you feel as I am not having a good time at the moment, DS has been in hospital, I feel very alone living away from my country, feel very frustrated about not having a good professional job and I am considering to get a divorce as I can not stand the situation anymore" and she said that she had enough with her own problems so please excuse her but she didn't want to hear of mine!!! I didn't try to reason with her, just hung the phone and won't pick it up for a couple of days. So selfish!!!

dejags · 15/07/2004 00:32

Twinkie,

God I can so see where you are coming from - sometimes we are just better off without the aggro caused by family.

I think your sister harbours some deep seated resentment towards you for reasons only known to her. If she can't come to terms with that then perhaps some distance for a while is a sensible solution.

You need to concentrate on you DP, DD and the new baby, your family dynamic is about to change and if your sister can't support you through that then you are better off being a little selfish and just enjoying the last couple of months of DD and then on establishing your new family.

Sorry I couldn't have been more help. Email me if you need to talk...

frogs · 15/07/2004 01:19

Hope you're feeling better, Twinkie...

Janh · 15/07/2004 01:35

Twinkie, it seems to me that dejags is completely right - the problem is your sister's, not yours, you don't owe her anything or have to give her any time or attention if she doesn't deserve it. Look after yourself, and your own little family, who do deserve it, and if she tries to use you and whine at you again, don't let her, just hang up.

I know you've had a terrible time with all your old family, and it sounds as if she is the only one you've had any kind of relationship with recently, but if it's all take on her side you have to back off. If DP's Brady Bunch lot will cherish you the same way they do him then bask in that and let her go.

XXXX

mummytojames · 15/07/2004 01:44

just read you post twinkie and all i can say is big hugs your way and i hope your feeling better today oh and another big hug for you

prufrock · 16/07/2004 11:52

Oh Twinkie darling you really don't need shit like that. Let her stew for a while - she might realise how awful she's been or she might not - but it's really not your problem. You have your dp, dd and max(soon) and the whole of Mumsnet.

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