Married 18 yrs, 2 ds, limping along the last 7-8 yrs. I think we need to separate, there is no relationship left, we hardly speak to each other, there's no fun, nothing in common and no affection or intimacy. I see him as a brotherly type figure, he is a good man and a good dad. I think we both need to move on and separate before we get to the point of really resenting and hating each other. My parents separated when I was 16 and it was very badly handled so I want to do this as amicably as possible. BUT I just don't know what his reaction will be, he could cry, he could turn nasty, he could totally withdraw. he works full-time and I work part time and I have done the sums, I could just about take over the mortgage payments if he would be willing. I'd be happy to go to mediation to sort out finances and accessories for ds 's would-be no problem, they adore him and I would never stop him from seeing them. I just think we need to take our heads out of the sand and face up to reality. How do I start the actual conversation though? 'i don't love you any more and want you to move out'? I was thinking of telling him just before myself and kids take my mum away for a few days (he's working) to give it a chance to sink in, good/bad idea? Any advice appreciated tia