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Help me with a reply after my pregnancy announcement with LC famo

25 replies

THirdEeye · 24/07/2017 21:27

As way of background:

I'm 40 and after years 15 to be exact of fertility treatment and surgery I am pregnant. I have been quite anxious about announcing this to my family (DP and Dsis) as I knew it would go one of two ways. Either l would get a delude of nasty/goady messages or radio silence from my mother and sister.

Although I see DF every now and again (he's enables my mother and is a flying monkey), I was upset that I also got radio silence from him.

I've just had a message from him now three days later congratulating me, but saying he was upset that l hadn't messaged my mother or sister with my news. So as per usual, they are making it all about them AGAIN....Hmm

I am just so fed up with the double standards and the hypocrisy.

My mother and l have been virtually NC for four years now. I've read quite a bit on dysfunctional families and l certainly fall into the scapegoat role. I was regularly told growing up that she loved me, but didn't like me and how she truely wished that when l had a child I would have one as difficult as me.....

She was a master of the silent treatment, guilt trips and emotional blackmail. One of her classics was saying of course I loved you, l came to the school when you were being bullied. I grew up with little self esteem and quite a low opinion of myself.

Fours years ago, I had had enough. After another row, instead of dutifully calling and putting up with the one word answers etc, I didn't call. Instead of seeing her, to try and sort the disagreement out (which equated to, her shouting and getting personal and reducing me to tears. Then using guilt and laying all blame onto me) I didn't.

I chose basically to ignore any negativity, but she has continued to:

When at a family event she has greeted or said goodbye to everyone but DH and l (making a big show in doing so)

We've been made to sit in a table plan (at a restaurant) at family meals so she didn't need to even look at us...

We've been made to feel guilty (by the flying monkeys) etc if we declined future invites because her behaviour.

If we didn't thank her in a timely manner for a gift, even though we never got a thankyou (she refused to sign any cards to me) I would receive awful messages again.

When she has come to my home, she's done all of the above, shouted at me etc and got agreaved when DH has defended me.

My DParents have demanded that l go to their house on my own to explain myself more like bully me into submission

I could go on...

Anyway, DH and l have ignored the above and have risen above any nasty behaviour. Yet it still continues four years later. My mother essentially wants to win, she wants me to go and grovel and I would forever pay/be reminded of this perceived slight.

In regards to my sister, she's a shit stirrer and is jealous. We used to get along very well, but l came to realise that it was always me calling etc. It was me that wanted more out of the relationship than her.

Anyway I digress and I've rambled enough already.

So, I know that they have obviously kicked off because I didn't message them also (they've only messaged me a cursory happy birthday etc and nothing more since this happens).

DH said to message my dad back and say

many thanks dad, we're excited and so far the tests have been good

So essentially ignoring his dig.

I want to message back something like after crying all weekend, my inner rage has surfaced

dad, thank you for your message. I'm upset too. What exactly do they expect? If they want to be part of my life then they need to stop point scoring with the nasty vindictive behaviour. You also need to stop expecting me to roll over and accept the blame for everything

What shall I do? I think the message I want to send back could be better...but what could I say?

I've rambled enough already. Thank you for reading.

OP posts:
Shoxfordian · 24/07/2017 21:31

I'd be tempted to go non contact with all of them if possible. They sound really toxic.

Have you seen the stately homes thread on here? It may help as other people have similar parents

MrsMooks · 24/07/2017 21:34

Fucking hell. Ignore the lot of them! Bollocks to them.

32andcounting · 24/07/2017 21:39

Huge congrats first off, I'm 41 and expecting my first, after 15 years you must be over the moon!

In my opinion, DH response is best, don't be drawn in, I bet your response is nothing you've not said a thousand times already.
Enjoy your pregnancy without their input.

alltalknobaby · 24/07/2017 21:48

Many congratulations! How wonderful to be pregnant after all those years of trying.

I see sending your text as throwing yourself back into the mire. Send your husband's version and then move on. You are much better off without such an abusive mother and you already know that nothing you do or say will ever be right or enough. Cut your losses and go NC. Enjoy your pregnancy stress- and guilt-free. Maybe send your mother a card many years from now thanking her for making sure you would be an excellent mum by showing you how not to do it Grin

THirdEeye · 24/07/2017 21:58

Thank you so much for your kind messages.

Yes, we are over the moon and obviously very nervous.

I knew deep down, that whenever I told them I would be wrong in some way. They all just have this ability, to make me feel incredibly bad about myself and think everything is my fault.

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OP posts:
THirdEeye · 24/07/2017 21:59

When I told DH of feeling like my inner hulk was about to explode...he sent me this 😂😂. It did make me feel a little better!

Help me with a reply after my pregnancy announcement with LC famo
OP posts:
BreakfastAtSquiffanys · 24/07/2017 22:01

Congratulations!
Hopefully you are on your way to creating a new family.
Maybe it's time to ditch the old family completely

Anatidae · 24/07/2017 22:05

Don't send any reply. anything you send will be twisted and used against you. If something as simple as an email could make them see sense you'd not need to be in this position would you?

Enjoy your pregnancy- congratulations to you. Enjoy it and do not try to engage them. You're soon going to have your own family, which will have a dynamic set by you and your partner- that dynamic is going to be happy and stable and you don't need any of those people in your life messi g it up

LivininaBox · 24/07/2017 22:08

Don't send your message, it just gives them what they want and fuels the fire. Do you need to reply at all?

If it's any help, I had a lot of stress and worry during my first pregnancy over a family member I was virtually NC with. Once the baby came, I had more important things to worry about. A while down the line I realised this person just wasn't very important anymore - I had my own family and new priorities.

I hope you can move on to, it sounds like your partner has your back which is so important. Wishing you much happiness with your baby.

Hissy · 24/07/2017 22:19

Please don't reply, go zero contact and put all your love and energy into your new family. Do not ever give any one of them the slightest reaction, block all monkeys, all siblings, the lot.

I want to give you a massive hug and say HUGE CONGRATULATIONS to you!! You're amazing!

user1497557435 · 24/07/2017 22:25

Huge congratulations xx
My dad always said you can chose your friends but not your family (hoping he wasn't referring to me!). Bollox to the lot of them - is hard to cut the ties but they do sound very toxic.

NoMudNoLotus · 24/07/2017 22:28

Your partners reply definitely.

Time to make your life easier it is . You have precious cargo on board ... remember that you don't have to attend every argument you're invited to 😊

Donttouchthethings · 24/07/2017 23:03

Many Congratulations!!

I wouldn't reply to your dad's message. I don't think there's any need and I also think it's best not to 'feed the beast'.

fc301 · 24/07/2017 23:39

What wonderful news. You must have been through hell for those 15 years.
I would see the absolute minimum of these shits. The detrimental effect they have on your self esteem will not help you to be the very best parent that you can be.
Don't try and explain yourself, just move on with your life.

Dawndonnaagain · 24/07/2017 23:47

Look, your answer to this is Fuck off, Dad. I'm having a much wanted child, who will be loved unconditionally. That's it. That's all you say, you then block their numbers. You surely cannot want your child exposed to this toxic nonsense. I know this sounds harsh, but I didn't do that and ended up with my mother trying to play my twin daughters off against one another. Fortunately, they could see it and told her to fuck off. We've had no contact since and it's been fabulous!

RoseOfSharyn · 24/07/2017 23:55

I've got nothing helpful to add, but just wanted to say congratulations OP and I wish you a very happy and healthy 9 months, and a lifetime of lovw and laughter. Flowers

Justhadmyhaircut · 24/07/2017 23:59

Why would you want them to know? They may want to see your dc!! Why would you want to inflict them on your precious dc??
Make your new family your only family!!

Aspergallus · 25/07/2017 00:03

Whenever I'm tempted to send my lot a heart felt, telling them how it really is message, I remind myself that if they really were capable of hearing what I am saying and responding appropriately (or as I need them to respond) then we wouldn't have a problem in the first place.

I don't do NC, but I do minimal/civil and it works for me.

Aquamarine1029 · 25/07/2017 00:23

I am overjoyed for you about your pregnancy! Congratulations!!

As for your mother and sister... Don't bother contacting, replying, whatever. There's no point and they will never change. Focus on yourself, your husband, and this beautiful new life that will be joining you before you know it! And if you need therapy to help you deal with all of your emotions, GET IT!

Aussiebean · 25/07/2017 07:23

Ah yes. The 'love you but don't like you' card the narc mother is so fond of.

Once your little one comes you will see what bull sh*t that really is. As I did.

I got radio silence for my pregnancy, birth and two years counting. Don't respond. You give them a stick to beat you with and then show others.

Block, give your dh a big cuddle and enjoy the sleep.

Flowers
Hissy · 25/07/2017 07:39

Either message shows your bothered.

Either message gives them a reaction.

If you tell them to fuck off, they have something to point at and wail about "look at what she said! After all we've done for her.."

The one response that will cut them like a knife AND be utterly impossible for them to paint you as the bad guy, because there is no proof of it, is to say absolutely nothing.

When your little one is here, please be prepared for a real shake up to your emotions. You'll feel all the love in the world for this most wanted little person. That little person will love you unconditionally and completely.

When you contrast this to what you got, expect anger to rise up again.

Feel it, process it and then let it go. Let them go. Don't look back.

Cut them all out. They will never ever add anything to your lives

To keep repeating the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the very definition of madness. According to Einstein, and he wasn't short of a brain cell or two.

magoria · 25/07/2017 07:58

Don't bother replying.

I am sorry but it is clear your dad has not got your back. He has used your fantastic news as a stick to beat you with and make it all about them.

Lump him in the same category.

You will understand just how contemptable both your parents are the first time you home your baby.

LesisMiserable · 25/07/2017 10:22

Your husband has it right.

My dad also used to do the "love you, dont like you". He wasnt abusive, I loved him...I just made absolutely sure I never said it to DD. Its stayed with me but not hurt me. Its just badly chosen words (in my case).

hatsoncats · 25/07/2017 10:44

You have wasted enough time and emotion on them.

If your family wanted to change, they would have done so by now, rather than risk losing you.
Don't send any more messages, you are just throwing fuel on the fire, and I suspect all your messages are being kept to use against you at some point.

Time to reduce contact even further and just focus on the new life you & Dh have created. A new life which, hopefully, you will protect from the emotional abuse that you have endured for years.
You have suffered & are STILL suffering from rejection and emotional absence and it is time to say "STOP - no more" before this is inflicted on your new-born child.

Beware of allowing them into your babys' life - they may well try to demand grandparents' rights in another attempt to manipulate & hurt you. Be very careful.

Padfoot1 · 25/07/2017 14:00

Congratulations 💐 how exciting! You've been through enough without having your family bring you down. You don't need the stress now you're pregnant - can you NC? I doubt you'd want your child brought up around your mum and her negativity. How are your in-laws, I hope they're more excited for you. Maybe focus on that side of the family x

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