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Knock some sense into me

16 replies

CharleyEmily · 13/07/2017 19:41

This is going to very long, so I apologise in advance. Basically, as the title says, I need someone to knock some sense into me.

I got married over two years ago, to someone who considered to be pretty perfect. He supported me in every way (except financially) and was my best friend. We got on brilliantly and were forever having a laugh and thoroughly enjoying each others company. My family and friends loved him too. I couldn't fault him, except an occasional temper in which things in the house would be broken, but this was only occasionally. I cannot emphasise how good we were together.

We had a good year of marriage, and then I discovered I was pregnant. He was very supportive during my pregnancy, but there were a couple of occasions when he became physically aggressive (pushing, shoving, pinning me to the wall). However he was very apologetic afterwards.

Roll on to when I had my child and had an extremely traumatic time of it (think nearly dead/no more children) and he frequently left me in hospital as 'he was not my slave'.

Four weeks later and me and baby were finally home. He spent little time with us as 'I was a nightmare' and constantly criticising him apparently. When he was with us, he was verbally and physically aggressive (including in front of baby), eventually this escalated to him grabbing me by the throat on multiple occasions. He eventually left reporting that I always wanted it to be just me and my baby.

Roll on about 14 months later and I still miss him and still giving him a chance to prove himself Confused I have had awful texts from him and he's been a nasty piece of work on occasions. I've tried to encourage him to have a relationship with his child, but he has not. He sees him very occasionally, supervised by me for only a couple of hours at a time (his choice).

However, he went to his GP a year ago for depression and PTSD and he reports frequent flashbacks about nearly losing his wife.

Can his behaviour be linked to this? And could he go back to being the person I thought he was. Or should I accept that it's over and move on?

Our case went to MARAC, I've had HV and family practitioner support and I've also been forced to do the freedom project.

The freedom project has just confused me more, as he was always the 'good husband' and I cannot see any red flags (other than a temper) when I think back to our relationship.

I just don't know what to do. I miss him immensely, but don't want to risk being in an abusive relationship. But what if this was just a major blip because of what we went through?

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thestamp · 13/07/2017 19:46

It doesn't matter why he acts the way he does.

The fact is he will kill you in the end if you keep contact like this. Or worse he will start on your child.

Stop contacting him. Move on. It doesn't matter how you feel about this - I'm afraid the facts are more important than your feelings here - he has shown you clearly, from the very beginning, that he is violent and you need to accept that is just how he is. The "why" makes zero difference.

You're a mother now. You have to put your safety and health ahead of your feelings of missing someone. If you make a clean break you will stop missing him in time and will have a chance to move on properly x

thestamp · 13/07/2017 19:48

Also these are not blips. You need to change your language and thinking to something slightly more realistic, sorry. You say yourself that he would break things in a temper from the very beginning of the relationship. He has steadily escalated the violence. This is all text book stuff. Spoiler alert: the story ends with him murdering you. Sorry to be so blunt. You do need to wake up though (I mean that kindly)

MarciaBlaine · 13/07/2017 19:57

I could have died in childbirth. My husband still doesn't want to discuss what happened during those hours as he found it so scary. He has always been supportive, and was especially during the early days. He never felt the need to push me, shove me or leave me.

Kr1stina · 13/07/2017 19:59

I got married over two years ago, to someone who considered to be pretty perfect [ who thought he was perfect? ]

an occasional temper in which things in the house would be broken

there were a couple of occasions when he became physically aggressive (pushing, shoving, pinning me to the wall [while you were pregnant with his child]

he frequently left me in hospital as 'he was not my slave'

He spent little time with us [ you and his 4 week old baby ] as 'I was a nightmare' and constantly criticising him

When he was with us he was verbally and physically aggressive

this escalated to him grabbing me by the throat on multiple occasions

He eventually left reporting that I always wanted it to be just me and my baby [so you didn't leave him ]

I have had awful texts from him and he's been a nasty piece of work

I've tried to encourage him to have a relationship with his child, but he has not

He sees him very occasionally, supervised by me for only a couple of hours at a time (his choice)

Our case went to MARAC, I've had HV and family practitioner support and I've also been forced to do the freedom project [ so you don't lose your child ]

Please read your own words and tell me that you can't see any red flags?

This is not a good husband, a good man or a good father. If you don't stay away you or your child will end up injured or dead. Or you will lose your child to social services.

I'm sorry to be blunt, but you need to chose between this man or your son.

CharleyEmily · 13/07/2017 20:03

Oh god, I've been so stupid haven't I? This is my one chance to have a family.

My poor child.

I can't go NC can I?! I'll always have to be in 'some' form of contact with him. I feel so lost and so ashamed. How can I still love him so much? How would I ever even start to get over him when I have to be in contact?

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Kr1stina · 13/07/2017 20:07

You on't have to be in contact. He's not pushing for a relationship with your son , is he? You are the one who is making it happen . If you stop doing that his father will likely never pursue and maintain contact.

I'm suprised that social services are allowing you to supervise contact yourself TBH.

There's no benefit to your son to be forced to have contact with a cruel violent man who doesn't give a damn about him.

Please walk away and build a new life for you and your son. Do you have supportive friends and family ? Do you work?

thestamp · 13/07/2017 20:08

Yes why are you supervising contact? Does SS know you're in contact with him?

43percentburnt · 13/07/2017 20:11

He was never a good husband. Have you had counselling to try and get to the bottom of why you believed he was a good husband? What did you learn about relationships as a child?

Greedynan · 13/07/2017 20:16

He's dangerous. imagine if he'd been expected to care for your newborn whilst you were recovering in hospital... from what you've said I could totally imagine him harming your child. Would you feel comfortable leaving him alone with your baby?

CharleyEmily · 13/07/2017 21:02

Social services aren't involved as he doesn't live with me. My hv and family practitioner are aware that I supervise contact. I have encouraged contact in a contact centre but it's at that point that he becomes a bully and threatens court. And from much research that thought terrifies me as I know he'll eventually get eow unsupervised.

Oh I feel like such an idiot. Writing it down really does make you think.

I'm not sure what I learnt about relationships growing up. I have a very stable family, brilliant father, fantastic mother who are still married 40 years later.

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Gingerandgivingzerofucks · 13/07/2017 21:56

How can you love someone who doesn't like you? He is violent towards you, dumps you at your most vulnerable in hospital having just given birth, the guy is clearly an idiot. Pinning you against a wall and grabbing you by the throat will escalate, it always does. Get rid now while you can.

He doesn't really want to go to court for access, he just wants to carry on controlling you and now you have a baby who is (and should be) your priority, he feels that control slipping away.

CharleyEmily · 14/07/2017 06:54

Ginger Thank you, this is what I've needed to read. I've known it deep down but still have found it difficult to detach. Of course my child is my priority and that's why I've got to do this now, and hopefully rid him from both of our lives.

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Greedynan · 14/07/2017 08:50

Don't feel bad. You've been manipulated by this man. You're still experiencing that manipulation. It's powerful. Writing things down really helps doesn't it? Good luck. Things can only get better for you and your LO xxx

notapizzaeater · 14/07/2017 08:53

He's using the contact visits to mess with your mind, could someone else take your ds there ?

Adora10 · 14/07/2017 14:26

Please listen to the above OP, you can't possibly think any of this is normal and now you have a baby to consider.

Apart from you having a laugh, he was never a good husband; he's a nasty manipulative bully who is weak and preys on vulnerable women; you will realise in time you did not love him, you just loved the idea.

stuntcamel · 14/07/2017 14:31

Did you ever report this to the police? He has been violent and threatening towards you, and continues to make you fear him. You shouldn't be being forced to have any contact with him whatsoever. He sounds dangerous.

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