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Need your advice – ex husband, new boyfriend – neither is going well

14 replies

catbasilio · 13/07/2017 14:37

Sorry, long.

My ex H moved out 15 months ago after a long stretch of flirting, sexting, registering on dating websites, as I later found out also using prostitutes (he says only after I denied sex). Unknowingly to him I had access to his phone / email for a long time and could see this going on for months on end. In addition he has been very poor parent, did nothing, didn’t engage with DC, didn’t want to do anything as a family etc, was very cold, quiet and private=secretive person (I later realized he is very self-centered and generally behaved as single)…. you get the picture.

Well he moved out, cried a bit then moved on. Several months later I started dating and found someone. Ex H found out – stepped up as a parent, took us for lunches, eventually we went on holiday with DC together (nothing sinister happened).. then we talked couple of times, he admitted his faults, apologized, he said he’s changed, he wants a 2nd chance and demanded that I dump my new boyfriend “for the sake of saving the family”. To which I responded that logically everyone deserves 2nd chance but my heart is not in it. Then he changed – he threatened contacting my BF, then stopping taking DC overnight (so I can’t see my BF overnight), then threatened suicide, then stopped seeing DC and has not seen them for 4 weeks now (DC are going to stay with my parents for summer holidays and this means he will not see them until September). I am yet to see if he will stop paying child maintenance.

I can see that ex H is desperate and desperately trying to manipulate his way into me giving him a 2nd chance (and I still feel for him here). When he was behaving “changed” and nice I had considered perhaps, if it wasn’t for my BF, I should give us a chance to try again…. But am I right to think that his threats and especially not seeing DC has shown his true colours and I absolutely should not give him a chance?

Now onto the BF.. We been together for 8 months. BF happened to be total opposite to ex H – hyper, affectionate, caring, attentive, chatty, loud, respectful to women, at the same time many female friends, but he is not afraid to talk about them, some are past exes. Slightly bothered me but as he is very open and willing to answer questions, I thought such an open person couldn’t possibly have hidden agenda, if he wanted to be with them, he would be! He tends to talk how serious he is about us, calls / text every day, always tells where he is. Generally when we meet he is loving and caring.

However, during this time I’ve been finding out that his words do not always match his actions – e.g. he lied that he doesn’t smoke, about certain things that he “hasn’t” done in bedroom, puts fake check-ins on FB, lies about non-essential things where truth could be told easily. Ah, he is convinced he is 5’11 while he is clearly 5’7 but I guess easier for him to believe that way, so I don’t mention it.

Fast forward to the last straw… Lately he added a boobilicious lady to his FB friends (who posts very dubious porn sort of stuff on her FB to attract males… ), and I went a bit furious - what can he have in common with her? He told me that he fixed her PC 10+ ago and she contacted him through his cousin when his relative died recently. I thought ok… but last night something got into me and I contacted her asking how do you know my BF? She told me, none of this was true, and he actually poked and waved her on FB, they chatted for a bit, but she is not interested.
I am pretty sure he has many more “friends” like that…

I told my BF I need some space to think. He doesn’t know that I contacted her, but we fell out about other stuff. I don’t know what to do. My heart says he cannot be trusted because he lies small things, so he could lie anything. My head says, he hasn’t actually cheated, it is only a small chat, maybe a small flirt, maybe a little flirt and salivating at boobs on FB is actually less harmless than paying for a shag like my ex H. He has not met her. Is it his self-esteem boost to have hot ladies on FB? Is it me sweating a small stuff?

OP posts:
LuxuryWoman2017 · 13/07/2017 14:40

Bin both of them off and be single and while, they both sound like wankers

Adviceplease360 · 13/07/2017 14:44

Exactly what luxury said.

Smeaton · 13/07/2017 14:45

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Onedaysoooon · 13/07/2017 14:47

Hear hear

BumpyHead · 13/07/2017 14:47

Dump both and work on your low self-esteem and boundaries.

Ellisandra · 13/07/2017 14:47

^ can't improve on that!

rizlett · 13/07/2017 14:47

Op - put on your suit of amour - this might be hard to hear.

So - you want to know who to choose between two liars!

Look at how nice (manipulative) your exh could be when he thought he was in with a chance but with abusive men like him (men who don't value women at all) it's totally unsustainable.

There are plenty of proper nice men out there but it looks like you are good at choosing men who don't value women. Perhaps some time is needed to focus on you and learn more about healthy relationships?

Perhaps you are not ready yet?

When you are ready - the first time someone lies to you - that's it. Just call out next!

You are worth so much more than this.

SpongeBobJudgeyPants · 13/07/2017 14:51

What Woman said. With bells on.

MagicalMrsMistoffelees · 13/07/2017 14:51

Get rid of them both - no 'second' chances!

Very unfortunate you've had two shitbags in a row but I promise you there are lots of lovely, decent, honest men out there and you don't need to settle for anything less!

catbasilio · 13/07/2017 14:57

My gut feeling agrees with binning ex H .. I can see through his manipulations although he presents himself very well on a surface.

Regarding my BF… well he seems to be popular and liked by a lot of people, he has many more friends than me, including females… amongst little lies or exaggerations he is also a very caring friend and family member… I thought, maybe he has this self-boosting mask by trying to look better than he is? He also very caring towards me and I wouldn’t want to bin him for the stuff that’s perhaps too small… (clutching at straws probably…)

OP posts:
catbasilio · 13/07/2017 15:00

And who says there are a lot of decent men – I haven’t met one for ages and if you read MN Relationships then majority of them seem twats anyway…

I need to find the right way to bring this up with BF without sounding that I am sweating over a small stuff.

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Justhadmyhaircut · 13/07/2017 15:06

Your ex just doesn't want people to know you have binned him and moved on. . Dented ego.

And your bf needs his ego stroked so much he must be all shiney and glossy!!
Surely you can do better than either of them??

snoopypoodle · 13/07/2017 15:10

In your shoes op I would bin them both and enjoy being single for a while.
Look after yourself and your DC.
Take things as they come.

Your ex H is a manipulative, vindictive waste of space cheat.

Your BF seems like a lying PITA in the long run.

Not worth it .

LuxuryWoman2017 · 13/07/2017 15:12

It's not compulsory to have a partner, better to be single and hope somebody wonderful comes along than be with involved with a fella who worries you enough to post for advice here - already a proven liar.

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