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What social class am i? :/

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user1499695642 · 10/07/2017 23:13

This is something that really bothers me. I feel like i'm slipping and not following my parents' example.

I wish class didn't but I've been made to feel out of place before. What social class would you guys say I 'fit into'? I know it's shallow to ask, please don't judge me for asking. I'd just like to know what you guys think based on some info.

Age: 23
Ethnicity: Mixed race
Occupation: Graduate officer in local government
Salary: £20K
Live: With parents in (owned) 4 bed detached house in home counties (average price in village - £1.5m)
Parents: Civil Service Director/Housewife - just one went to (Russell Group) Uni
Education: Non-selective, comprehensive academy then Oxbridge (2.1 (2015))
Accent: More standard south-eastern than 'posh' (e.g. Joanna Lumley)
Hobbies: Museums, art galleries, theatre, TV
Social: I only made a couple friends at uni so my social group is very small. I only know 1 or 2 people in influential/ 'elite' professions

Am I middle class or does the following make me working class?:
Non-private/grammar education
Low salary/career sector
Non-house ownership
Social group
Accent

Does my parent's social class affect mine a lot or not so much?

Again, please don't judge me for asking. I'm genuinely just curious to know what others might think.

OP posts:
KoalaDownUnder · 13/07/2017 02:18

bogans = chavs

This is a very simple thing. It's in no way similar to the intricacies (or labelling) of the British class system.

KoalaDownUnder · 13/07/2017 02:22

And certainly nobody sits around trying to figure out if they're a bogan, if their parents were bogans, if they can ever move bogan classes, etc.

JasAnglia94 · 13/07/2017 03:23

It's hard to side with a certain poster's point of view. I err on the side of Ploppy (despite being a big fan of Bourdieu).

I went to Oxbridge (as said) and it has worked both in my favour and against me. This is because people are, as much as we like to deny it, prejudice.

During interviews for the two sectors I have pursued since graduating, many interviewers have asked me " If you went to Oxbridge then why do you want to work here " . This basically boils down to "people like you shouldn't want to work here/in this industry/with us ".

I have even had my mum, at times, telling me to "tone down" my voice because I want to work in the sector I do. Yet, people say "class doesn't matter".

mummytime · 13/07/2017 08:45

Ploppy - all kinds of things can help or hinder in job interviews - names of schools are just one. I have been interviewed because I was female (4 candidates: 2 black, 1 chinese and me a white female), and one very blatantly because I was at Oxford (they only interviewed Oxford students).
You have to roll with what you are given - and sometimes accept it might work against you - like when someone misread my CV and asked about a book I had written- except I hadn't.
No one gets a free pass. In England whatever class you are will be prejudiced against by some other people in some circumstances.
And for the person talking about public schools promoting a discussion at University interviews - well at mine I remember one girl entering into great discussion because she went to a comprehensive in Cornwall (one of the senior teachers was an old friend of the Lecturer in question).

Knowing how to use a knife and fork can help, and can be a ground for people to judge. But so could a thorough understanding of betting odds, or the different streets in Hackney.

SonicBoomBoom · 13/07/2017 09:27

As this thread shows, there are no longer clear markers for class, and so everyone's interpretation of what makes someone middle or working class is different. And will be heavily influenced by their own situation.

Eg, it's no longer a MC thing to be educated to degree level, as nearly half of people today are. Being a homeowner is more difficult now, even for those in graduate and the traditional MC professions, so many people who grew up MC won't be able to buy. Their MC parents may be able to gift/lend them a deposit, but may choose not to preferring their DC be independent. Does being given a deposit make you more MC than someone who wasn't? No, I don't think so. Bit some who own will say that someone who doesn't can't be MC, regardless of how they came to own.

You clearly have a middle class background. You grew up in a solidly middle class family.

I think once you are an adult you need to forge your own path. You're still young, you won't settle into a "class" for probably another ten years or so. And even then, what the criteria are will be widely debatable.

nauticant · 13/07/2017 09:57

And for the person talking about public schools promoting a discussion at University interviews - well at mine I remember one girl entering into great discussion because she went to a comprehensive in Cornwall (one of the senior teachers was an old friend of the Lecturer in question).

There is a world of difference between someone being able to use the "brand" of their private school in networks where such a thing is likely to have perceived value and the random chance that a university lecturer happens to know someone working at a particular sink school far away in the provinces.

It brings to mind the difference between an inheritance expected from well-off parents and having a local shop where you can buy lottery tickets.

mummytime · 13/07/2017 11:51

Well I used to have a public school educated window cleaner - I'm not sure it did him any favours.

nauticant · 13/07/2017 12:04

Makes you wonder why people spend all that money on sending their kids to private school, doesn't it?

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