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Head is wrecked by friend

32 replies

NoTvNoWifi · 05/07/2017 17:26

I am a longtime reader but have never posted before. I am really frazzled by an ongoing situation with my oldest friend (who is also a relative). I am the only one in my family to be friendly with her as she is quite difficult and selfish but due to a difficult childhood she had I have always given her the benefit of the doubt. She is a good person at heart and our children are growing up together. She has anxiety issues and I have helped her through that. I am worried she is too dependant on me. In recent months I have found it more difficult to cope with what I feel is her intrusion into my own family life. She had got into a habit of arriving every saturday evening and staying until the late hours. While we enjoy their company ( her dh and kids) i began to resent catering to them so often when sometimes i just want a quiet time my own family. Her dh is also notoriously tight and it started to irk that he would pick and choose over the drinks on offer and never bring a bottle! ( but that is a small issue). My friend has a very active social life but has sometimes huffed when i have gone out without her. This has become much worse recently. To cut a long story short (!!) I started therapy a few months ago following a trauma that has turned my own family and siblings upside down. My counsellor agreed with an overwhelming feeling i had to focus on my dh and kids in a bid to centre myself. She helped me find a gentle but direct way of telling my friend i needed a small bit of space and also the freedom to see other friends without her falling out with me. I did this 2 months ago and the fallout has been huge. She reacted with rage, then tears, then silence for weeks. I made contact with her last week as am sad about the impact on my kids who miss her kids, while also relieved i have not had to see her. I have been so shocked by her reaction. In the beginning she was so angry when i said dh and i were going to have a dinner ourselves one saturday as i wanted a bit of bonding time - trying to make a tiny bit of distance went down like a tonne of bricks! During a heart to heart that followed i explained i was struggling after a tough year and wanted to focus on my own wee unit. She is upset that doesnt mean her - while my own dsis was fully supportive. Anything I mentioned about my state of mind she turned around to how it would affect her. She admitted, during our 1st contact at the weekend, made by me out of guilt, she didnt like the fact I was not available as I was her rock. She said she would choose me over her husband, which seems so unhealthy. Other than admissiin she was quite nasty during this conversation and says her dh is very hurt by my behaviour and I have wrecked so many friendships by what I have done ( which was to try to make a boundary - obviously badly!!! I am so sorry to ramble but my counselling has finished and i have no idea how to see this through. I worry about losing such an old friend but I also feel so uneasy about the dynamic. My dm and dsis believe i should move on without her as feel she is controlling me. I am an intelligent enough woman but this is really making me question my judgement. Should I try to make amends or keep my boundaries and potentially lose her? Ironically the distance in recent weeks has hugely helped my marriage but im mid 40s and value old friends so much. I would appreciate any advice if you can make any sense of my post Blush

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noego · 05/07/2017 19:05

Keep your boundaries. Keep them strong and firm. She'll survive. Enough with the emotional blackmail.

NoTvNoWifi · 05/07/2017 19:12

Thanks noego. It is not easy!

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ThatsNotMyMarmot · 05/07/2017 19:22

You wouldn't be losing a friend. She is no friend. It's all on her terms. Bin her off. She is a nightmare.

AnyFucker · 05/07/2017 19:26

That is not my definition of "friend"

Friends are mutually supportive. This woman is a one way street of neediness and will suck you dry without a thought for you

Distance yourself

Gemini69 · 05/07/2017 19:30

hard as it may be.. she has sucking the life out of your world ...

you need to close this door... for the sake of your own mental well being and your family ...

situations like this are never easy... but you can only heal thy self by focusing on you .. forget about her.. x

RickOShay · 05/07/2017 19:31

Stand your ground. You can't pour from an empty jug, you need to
spend time with your family, that is totally understandable and right that you do that, if she was a true friend she would support you in doing what you needed to do. Just stand your ground.

Phosphorus · 05/07/2017 19:31

Has she been diagnosed with anything? A personality disorder?

You need to instill incredibly firm boundaries if she has.

NoTvNoWifi · 05/07/2017 19:34

Thanks for the supportive comments. It is making me a bit emotional getting the feedback. Obviously it is only my side of the story I have given and she feels dumped by me. I wonder is it typical to become less tolerant of some behaviours as we get older?

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Aquamarine1029 · 05/07/2017 19:35

Distance yourself from her permanently. This "relationship" is shockingly unhealthy. She needs a therapist, and you are NOT a therapist. Don't feel guilty for one second for putting yourself and your own family first. Her happiness is not your responsibility.

AdalindSchade · 05/07/2017 19:36

She's not good for you. Let her go.

NoTvNoWifi · 05/07/2017 19:41

No Phosophorus. No personality disorder. She is on antidepressants though and is far happier on them but has almost lost her radar for other peoples' feelings/ what is appropriate socially if that makes sense. As I said she was always shockingly self centred but I just let it wash over me.

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NoTvNoWifi · 05/07/2017 19:44

I am so surprised by the strength of the replies.

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AnyFucker · 05/07/2017 19:47

Why ?

Taylor22 · 05/07/2017 19:52

That's not a friend. That's an emotional dementor.

She is sucking the life force out of you.
She's mad at you? Boo hoo so sad.
Do not let her take up your head space.

It's sad that your kids lost friends. But surly they've got more? Or distract them when they ask.

DownTownAbbey · 05/07/2017 19:53

She's a vampire. Take, take, take.

You are not even remotely unreasonable wanting to spend time that does not include her. After your initial conversation about needing time alone with your family unit the normal response would be 'of course, sorry if I've been a bit full on', not wailing and gnashing of teeth and 'what about me!!!'

If you were married to her I'd say she was abusive.

NoTvNoWifi · 05/07/2017 20:13

She has been a big part of my life since childhood and I have described her at her worst. She is a devoted mum and can be very kind. Im surprised because part of me has been worried/convinced it is my own frame of mind making me less forgiving. We parted ways for a while after her wedding years ago as she was beyond bridezilla! When we (bridesmaids) tried on any nice dresses she bluntly told us we needed to be in mediocre dresses so we didnt take away from her....by the time the wedding happened she had alienated everyone. However we became closer again once kids came along. Your answers have given me more strength to stick to my convictions. My dc have lots of other friends but we dont have a big family network and regard her children as cousins. That breaks my heart for one of my dc in particular.

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RickOShay · 05/07/2017 20:41

You are doing the right thing, you really are. It is so sad for your dc, Indo understand that, I had a situation where my dd couldn't see her best friend through no fault of her own, it is difficult, but your child needs you more as an ok coping mum, much more than they need this family in their lives. You are doing the best in a hard place.

SandyY2K · 05/07/2017 20:44

Stick to your boundaries on this one. Her behaviour is simply manipulative and it's no surprise others have nothing to do with her.

Focus on yourself and your family, otherwise you will be dragged down even further.

Good luck

NoTvNoWifi · 05/07/2017 21:15

Thank you so much for your wise words. I have better resolve now Flowers

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rollonthesummer · 05/07/2017 21:19

She sounds horrible and her husband sounds a tight arse-I wouldn't want them in my life to be honest.

SabineUndine · 05/07/2017 21:20

It would probably be better for her to have to stand on her own two feet a bit too. With the amount of support you've given her, she should be able to.

OnTheRise · 06/07/2017 09:40

Seriously? She felt abandoned by you and was rude and abusive because you said you wanted ONE night alone with your husband?

This woman is not someone I would want around me, and I'd especially want to keep her away from my children.

You have done nothing wrong. It was perfectly reasonable for you to want to go out with your husband. Her reaction was really out of order. Do not feel bad about this, not one little bit. She needs help, and you need supportive friends, not abusive ones like her.

NoTvNoWifi · 06/07/2017 09:55

Thanks again everyone. Your replies have been so helpful

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ratspeaker · 06/07/2017 13:23

One thing that stands out is that you were relieved not to be seeing her.
That speaks volumes.

You've said to her you need time and space, a real friend would be sympathetic, asking how they could help, maybe offering to take your kids while you have a date night, instead its all about HER.
Her wants, needs and emotions are SOoooo much more important.
How can you posdibly enjoy a Saturday without HER, catering to HER. Btw it would s NOT a small issue that herDH is picky over drinks but never brings a bottle. Its a way of showing how much more IMPORTANT their wishes and needs are than yours.

You dont need to justify or explain anything

MatildaTheCat · 06/07/2017 13:31

Was she there for you during your family crisis? I suspect not so much.

Honestly, keep her at a healthy distance. Having her in your own home so much makes this difficult, if you want to see her suggest short outings to neutral places. Coffee at garden centre or walk in the park etc.

You don't run a restaurant, no need at all to host these freeloaders all the time. If she questions you repeat that you've had advice from your doctor to reduce stress. And keep repeating.

That's if you want to see her at all...

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