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How to live with past abuser? (Parent)

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73kittycat73 · 26/06/2017 01:15

Hi, I'm looking for some advice. I have it all swirling in my head atm so hope it comes out ok and is not too long.
I had a physically, mentally and emotionally abusive childhood. My second stepdad used to hit me. My mum endorsed this. My mum was wicked to me. This is one example. Her, my stepdad and younger brother went out leaving me home along about age 6 or 7. I watched The Little Mermaid on TV and at the end when she turned to foam I started to cry. It really upset me. I wondered out to the kitchen and found some fairy cakes my mum had made. I know I shouldn't but I ate the icing from the top of them. It made me feel better.
Mum comes home and discovers what I did and I can only describe what she did next as frenzied. She started shouting at me and slapping me really hard. I put my hands up and head down to try and shield me but she was just slapping anywhere she could. I begged her to stop as it was hurting but she carried on. Afterwards I got put in a corner and made to stay there for hours. If you don't mind I'm going to write another situation as it's making me feel better getting them out.

I was in the kitchen and really thirsty. I was too small to reach the taps. I went into the front room where my mum was wallpapering and asked her for a drink. Next thing I know she had picked me up and literally threw me across the room. She then picked up my brothers wooden rocking horse and threw it after me. She then shoves me down on the sofa (I knew I was only young as I was looking down at my legs and the didn't reach the end of the seat.). I was crying and she kept shouting at me to stop. I was doing that involuntary sob you do after crying and every time I sobbed she smacked me round the face and told me to stop crying.
She was vicious verbally as well as physically. There was no love, no support.
When I was 18 I moved out to another city (And ended up in a relationship with an abuser, but that's another story.) However, about 12 years ago I moved back. Things were 'ok.' On the surface we got on. I did confront her at some point about what went on and she claimed I had remembered all the bad things in my life and put them together forgetting the good. She did admit she had a vicious temper back then. That's as far as it got.
Then my mum changed. She said she worked really hard to change over about three years. We became very close although we still don't talk about what happened. She has changed, she has, and would, do anything for me. The last 10 years she has been a different person. We rely on each other emotionally and practically. She has limited mobility and I have agoraphobia and other anxiety disorders so we really do need each other.
I think she tried in a round about way to apologise last week but it just made me feel worse. She was saying that she had a lot of regrets.
This is what I have a hard time with, like tonight it happened. I obviously remember all the abuse and think, 'you did that to me,' whilst talking to her and I start to feel panicky. In my head I'm thinking all the things she did to me. On the other hand she is now a completely different person and I wouldn't cope without her, she's my rock. So how do I cope? What can I do? I've tried asking for mental health help but they won't see me at home, they insist I have to go to them but because of the agoraphobia I can't. (It's a catch 22. I've tried telling them I need to deal with the after effects of the abuse as that would stop the panic attacks and so the agoraphobia but they want to do it the other way round. Hmm )
I don't know what to do. I try and tell myself that it's the here and now that counts but I obviously have a lot of unexpressed anger and sadness. (Can't scream/shout it out as I live in a block of three flats with thin walls!) I also decided to forgive her (But not forget.) I get the impression her upbringing wasn't a bed of roses, she felt her father neglected and ignored her, and never stood up for her.
I don't want to bring things up with her. I don't think it will help and it will just upset her. Does anybody have any advice on what to do/how to cope/what to say to myself? Thank you for reading this, I know it is long.

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pog100 · 26/06/2017 01:26

It's very late and I doubt you'll get much response till tomorrow. You sound like you needed company though, so I didn't want it to go unanswered. I'm out of my depth with advice but my gut feeling is that you write benefit from gently opening the subject of your upbringing with your mother. I hope you can improve your life slowly but surely. Sleep well.

73kittycat73 · 26/06/2017 01:30

Thanks Pog, that's really kind of you. Flowers

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LockedOutOfMN · 26/06/2017 01:35

I'm like pig, I can't offer any expertise, only comfort. Your feelings are valid and I think you should talk then through with a counsellor.

gluteustothemaximus · 26/06/2017 01:36

Oh lovely, I'm so sorry Flowers

I do have some stuff I really want to say but my baby is up and crying. I will be back x

keeplooking · 26/06/2017 01:37

I'm so very sorry you had to endure what you did. Flowers
I hope someone with more of an idea than me will be able to come on and offer you some constructive advice. Stay strong.

Hidingtonothing · 26/06/2017 01:46

Hi OP, your post made me feel so sad and angry on your behalf, I'm sorry for what you've been through Flowers

Am guessing private therapy wouldn't be possible financially, if so have you approached any of the mental health or survivors of abuse charities, they sometimes offer counselling. I think you're absolutely spot on that you need to unpick the causes of your agoraphobia and panic attacks rather than trying to treat the symptoms, you sound very switched on and self aware.

I'm really not sure speaking to your mum about it at this stage would be the best thing for you right now, if you can manage to access some therapy I would let your therapist guide you as to whether and when you open that door I think.

It sounds like you've come quite a way all on your own, you've worked out a lot of the reasons behind your feelings yourself but you've obviously hit a wall now and I really think a good therapist could help you work out where you go from here.

Give those charities a try, are you ok googling or would you like me to have a look for you and post links? More than happy to if it helps x

73kittycat73 · 26/06/2017 01:46

Thank you all for your kind words. Flowers

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73kittycat73 · 26/06/2017 01:48

Hi Hidingtonothing. Thank you so much for your post and words of advice. I'd love some links if you could find them? Thank you.

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mayoli · 26/06/2017 01:51

Hi OP. I don't have much to say other than I'm up this late thinking about my own experiences which are scarily like yours, minus the speaking to her again. I'm so, so, so, sorry this happened to you. Do you think accessing some form of counselling specifically to work on dealing with it would help at all?
Flowers Flowers Flowers

73kittycat73 · 26/06/2017 02:07

Hi mayoli. Flowers I'm so sorry you had bad experiances too. Sad
I think some kind of counselling would help, yes. I'm looking forward to Hidingtonothing links. (I wouldn't know what to google for exactly.)
Thank you all so much for your kind words and advice. I really appreciate that you took time to write. I'm off to bed for now but will check back again tomorrow. Thanks again all. Flowers

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gluteustothemaximus · 26/06/2017 02:15

I'm not sure this is going to be helpful, but I don't believe you can live with an abuser, and recover.

She needs you. I really don't think you need her.

I have experience of abuse for myself and lots of friends over the years. I did go back and live with them, but they re wrote history basically.

I used to suffer with panic attacks too. I think MH issues will be around until you can break away and seek a good counseller. I know that is easier said than done.

Were your siblings also abused? Do you still see them?

xxx

Hidingtonothing · 26/06/2017 02:23

No problem Smile

napac.org.uk/

www.mind.org.uk/about-us/

www.victimsupport.org.uk/crime-info/types-crime/childhood-abuse

www.supportline.org.uk/problems/child_abuse_survivors.php

www.dorsetactiononabuse.org.uk/

www.havoca.org/

Have only had a quick browse but most of these at least offer signposting for further help so should be able to point you in the right direction. I obviously have no idea where you are but included the Dorset link because they do offer direct therapy both in person and over the phone/skype which I thought might work for you, no idea if you need to be local but can't hurt to ask. And that last link seems to be more about survivors supporting each other, self help stuff and support forums rather than actual therapy but there might be something useful there.

Feel free to PM me if I can do anything else to help, don't mind making some calls for you tomorrow if that's something you struggle with for instance. I hope things start to get easier for you really soon kitty, good luck Flowers

Hidingtonothing · 26/06/2017 03:09

One thing I forgot to say, MIND offer local services as well as the national helpline. They may well refer you on when you ring the main number but it's worth contacting them independently if they don't because sometimes the local services have additional support available.

Here's the link to search your area;

www.mind.org.uk/information-support/local-minds/

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