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End of Two Year Relationship - Could do with Female Perspective

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regulardudeguy · 17/06/2017 11:31

Hi all,

Sorry to bore you with one of these threads but I've found that speaking to people and posting on forums has definitely started to help me.

My ex and I were together for two years, she moved in with me within a matter of weeks and for at least a year it was absolutely bliss. We also worked together (I was her boss). Due to this putting a strain on our relationship she started working in car dealerships and is currently at a prestige brand (don't want to be too specific) and enjoying it greatly.

She did not pay rent although did buy food and so on for the house. I did all the domestic chores except prepare the food and never received any help. After a 12 hour day I'd come back and clear up her mess or in the morning take down her empty mug of tea, fold her clothes and give the place a quick spruce up. It was very rare that I received any help doing this kind of stuff. I mentioned it a couple of times but never saw any improvement. If I was folding washing the evening she would shout up to me and say "aren't you sitting down yet/am I going to spend any time with you tonight" completely oblivious to the fact that I was doing chores that were necessary.

She has an active social media presence and my friend actually said to me her IG profile looks like that of a "single girl." Although I never wanted to be on there myself due to wanting some privacy it did surprise me how she took daily selfies and so on, the only people who would be receptive to that would be men. I said that was due to her wanting attention, which she did not deny.

Things really deteriorated about six months ago when I moved house. The house was bought by me 100% so I didn't really embrace it as my parents applied a degree of coercion for me to move (I was more inclined to blow some money on cars and holidays). I admit I was a bit down in the dumps and lost my mojo but surely these things are a two way street. I'm not just there to entertain my gf, there must be a element of her wanting to support/help me too?

When it really came to a head was when she booked a training course with work on my 30th birthday. My parents were going on holiday so I faced the very real prospect of not seeing my gf or my family on my 30th. I chose to go on holiday. On my birthday she called me from her car with her colleague in there so we spoke for literally two minutes. I'll be honest I was upset, no card or present. She could have sent a card to the hotel or something, but nothing. When we met up for "the chat" I said she could have booked her course for another day (September), she said it would have delayed her career. Surely this isn't just selfish behaviour?

We had a chat prior to ending it and she said that she did not want to be with someone who put their business first. She stated that when she called me (when I was at work and sometimes before say 17:00) that I wasn't always that attentive and was always busy. Due to the nature of what I do and the fact that I was at work that isn't unrealistic. It isn't that I value my business more than her it is at that particular time I was doing something more important. I asked her if I called her while she was doing a handover or a prospective customer walked in would she speak to me and give me her undivided. Her response was that she wouldn't answer the phone. I said I always answer the phone at least in case it is something urgent. I always saw her in the evenings, we ate together and I was attentive and affectionate.

When we spoke about this breaking up she said that the things I got irritated by were petty. Surely they're not, doesn't it just represent a degree of immaturity or selfishness on her part? If you look at the scenarios and reverse who is doing what I would have been in the dog house on many an occasions.

The frustrating element now is that I can only dwell on the good times and when she was so thoughtful and considerate and it makes me feel like maybe I wore her down/did something to spoil it? I have begun to question myself thinking did I get boring? Could I have done things like buy flowers more often and so on? I know it's academic now but I'd just want to know for future reference. I'd hate to think I drove her away but given the issues I had and her lack of understanding I feel I would have had to compromise on far too much to make it work.

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BalaRua · 17/06/2017 11:34

It sounds like you were fundamentally unsuited. Forget about her and move on now :)

Sn0tnose · 17/06/2017 11:49

I'd agree with Bala. You sound like you were fundamentally incompatible. From your ideas of housework to your careers to your ideas of what is petty and what isn't.

Although it's sad, I'd stop thinking about all the times she was nice or considerate. Those are basic elements of any relationship. If you feel yourself wavering, remind yourself that your relationship wasn't a partnership and would have resulted in you compromising on things that are important to you. No amount of flowers would have changed that.

ElspethFlashman · 17/06/2017 11:59

You two were completely incompatible. I don't think from your description you did anything"wrong". You are a hard working 30 year old with your own house that you keep clean.

However she was working full time throughout and basically had a free home for two years! Her entire financial input was to go to Tesco??! That's pretty cheeky tbh. I would have at least paid some bills.

It does sound like she was simply not at the same life level as you. She sounds quite young, leaving a mess around, taking endless selfie, being far too busy for your birthday, wanting undivided attention whenever she called....it's all a bit exhausting.

I think you will find somebody much more suited to you.

noego · 17/06/2017 12:04

Turn the page, new chapter. Move on. You've learned a wonderful lesson.

user1496082512 · 17/06/2017 12:05

Don't be too hard on yourself! You don't sound like you were compatible and that you both had different priorities and needs. You will naturally think of the good times and this will play on your heart strings, but maybe it's for the best given what you've said, as said as it is that it didn't last.

regulardudeguy · 17/06/2017 12:07

ElspethFlashman - There was a seven year age gap. In spite of all this I care about her enormously. I guess the fact it was my first serious relationship and I'm so affectionate just made me addicted to it.

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Bestseller2017 · 17/06/2017 12:09

I wouldn't analyse it too much. Some relationships are just not meant to be.

stitchglitched · 17/06/2017 12:10

I think it's a bit unfair that you expect her to acknowledge that at times your business needs to take priority yet you expected her to put off a work course that could delay her own career. But neither of you sound like villains, just incompatible. It's probably for the best that you go your separate ways.

regulardudeguy · 17/06/2017 12:24

stitchglitched - It's academic now but we're talking the difference between calling someone back 20 minutes later and going on a training course in September instead of June to be with your boyfriend on his 30th birthday. I don't see any comparison.

I'm not saying I'm faultless, far from it but don't agree with your analysis above. I took her to London for her 21st, stayed in Sanderson, booked Miss Saigon and did all sorts.

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ElspethFlashman · 17/06/2017 12:28

Beware of being too thirsty for affection. It can blind you to crucial differences in lifestyle.

If she is 23 now she was 21 at the start. 21 year olds don't always make the best living partners tbh.

And it quite often doesn't work out when you move in together within weeks, especially if one party doesn't even pay rent. Here we have a name for blokes who do that - cock lodger. Sorry but no matter how thoughtful she could be on occasion, she was a female cocklodger. They always see, that's how they get away with it for ages! By charm and smiles and sheer brass neck!

Next time date someone for quite some time before thinking of living together. Get to know their habits properly. And never live with someone who doesn't bring up the subject voluntarily of how you're going to split costs. It should be proportional to income. It's bad form otherwise.

ElspethFlashman · 17/06/2017 12:29

(Not to offend any very responsible 21 yr olds reading!)

rizlett · 17/06/2017 12:33

I think you made it too easy for her and didn't set out your ground rules from the beginning. Most people would expect a partner to have an equal share of the chores if both were working similar hours but you appeared too eager to please and jumped into 'doing it all'.

I think she took advantage of you. It looks as though she didn't appreciate or value your relationship enough. This is not a reflection on you btw. Next time try to maintain and your standards within reason whilst also allowing for compromise. Perhaps you moved in together too quick too - it usually takes quite a long time before people's true character emerges.

You are punishing yourself a bit for this relationship ending by choosing to focus on the romantic beginning. This is a normal process we all go through - even when the relationship has been traumatic - it will pass.

regulardudeguy · 17/06/2017 13:30

ElspethFlashman - Thank you for your feedback, it seems quite clear. The one thing I can't reconcile is how she could be like that. Maybe it's more of an instinctive thing than something that she was deliberately doing. If I showed her your post she would argue the toss and say that's completely wrong but from where I'm sat it looks perfectly accurate. The mind is a fascinating thing.

rizlett - I put it down to my own inexperience, she moved in within a week! The first year was amazing, I guess because she gave me all that attention and I was blinded. Didn't realise I was doing everything in the relationship and paying for it all.

Regarding the romantic start, if anything I feel with the right person that can be maintained throughout. There really isn't a need for it to fade IMO.

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AdalindSchade · 17/06/2017 13:37

I guess the fact it was my first serious relationship and I'm so affectionate just made me addicted to it

Excellent insight, well done. Connection and affection is a basic human need. People stay in terrible relationships because the thought of losing the connection and affection (even if it's sporadic or comes with unwanted conditions attached) is too scary.

You'll find someone else to be affectionate with. Someone who is on your wavelength and appreciates you as you do them.

regulardudeguy · 17/06/2017 13:39

The other thing is I actively encouraged her to go into this career. Two years ago when I met her she wouldn't have ever thought she could do it. That makes me really happy, as she's going to better herself.

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AdalindSchade · 17/06/2017 13:39

Regarding the romantic start, if anything I feel with the right person that can be maintained throughout. There really isn't a need for it to fade IMO

Dude, you've had one serious relationship. Romantic gestures are not the stuff of lasting relationships. Don't mistake romance for genuine love.

iamreginaphalange · 17/06/2017 13:46

Put it down to experience and move on. Life is too short, good luck 😉

HeddaGarbled · 17/06/2017 13:46

It sounds like you were ready to settle down and she wasn't. Some minor incompatibilities and occasional selfish behaviour can be got over if there's enough love and you are both ready to make a long term commitment but it doesn't sound like she was.

ElspethFlashman · 17/06/2017 13:53

And flowers aren't a make or break thing. On birthdays they're very nice. But getting her flowers every week wouldn't have altered your basic incompatibility.

regulardudeguy · 17/06/2017 13:57

ElspethFlashman - It was more an example for being sporadic/different I guess and showing that she was valued. Only last Sunday I booked a film and dinner and just said this is what we're doing, which I think is quite good.

Also, she's working long hours now and did complain to me about lack of apetite and being constantly tired. I went for a run at 0930 last Sunday and when I got back just before 1100 (slow runner ha) she was sparked out asleep on the sofa after having just had a solid nine hours kip. I do hope she looks after herself and it's easy to say don't worry and move on but I do. I looked after her and cared about her for two years 24/7.

Hard this breaking up malarkey isn't it! :(

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ElspethFlashman · 17/06/2017 14:00

Hopefully next time you have someone who looks after you the same as you look after them. Smile

regulardudeguy · 17/06/2017 14:12

I am not happy but know it is the right decision to separate. The one thing I don't understand is she called it off. Why was this really? It is simply because I wasn't being attentive all along?

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UndersecretaryofWhimsy · 17/06/2017 14:26

I think you've had good advice here. The two of you just weren't suited. She was young, and like many young people, kind of self-absorbed and oblivious. It happens.

Chalk it up to experience, remember the good times fondly, and learn for the future. Now you've learned you can be a bit vulnerable to being taken advantage of because of your need for affection (which is natural, so don't beat yourself up for it). Take it slower next time and make sure that you and the next girlfriend/partner are both doing your bit and building a true partnership.

And you're right that consideration and thoughtfulness should absolutely be maintained, even throughout a decades-long marriage. But as Elspeth said, don't confuse that with clichéd romantic gestures like flowers, chocolates, surprise days out, fancy dinners etc, which are all very nice, but not the stuff of reality. True romance is caring for your partner through a bout of norovirus, or getting up and taking the baby for a walk at 2am so your partner can have a break. Wink

regulardudeguy · 17/06/2017 14:29

UndersecretaryofWhimsy - That "true romance" you refer to just wasn't there all the time. As and when it suited her she was attentive and amazing but sometimes completely self-absorbed. Never asked me how my day was or anything.

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rizlett · 17/06/2017 14:54

Why was this really?

Knowing why won't really change anything because you are you and that's ok. She may not even know why. Sometimes wanting to know why is a way of avoiding accepting what has happened. (we can believe that if we find out why then we can change whatever the why was.)

If you can learn that not knowing is ok and letting go is good you'll be a very wise guy.

All this takes practice though and yes it is hard but it gets easier - and also we can choose whether to make it harder or more easy. You can choose your thoughts and if you can choose your thoughts you can change your feelings.