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Brutal opinions - am I the cause of the awful relationship with my parents?

39 replies

lostandfound12 · 11/06/2017 14:26

I need some brutally honest responses here. as with all mumsnet thread, it is hard to give the entire background but im going to try to be fair to each 'side.'

im 29 and i have a very difficult relationship with my parents. growing up, my little brother was the superstar - totally amazing at rugby and went on to play professionally for a few years (doesnt anymore). i get on with my brother and he says he didnt like the limelight much, looking back.

things happened growing up where i had HUGE resentment for the amount of time my parents gave to my brother. it was literally every weekend dedicated to taking him to matches and talking about his success.

dont get me wrong, i was showered with opportunities - and was told so very often when i complained. but i was never into sport, although i did well academically.

the older i have got, the more hurt i feel about it all. it's stupid though, isn't it? i KNOW now that they just made a misjudgement, yet i struggle with it. they left me for so many weekends and evenings (or at least it felt that way) as a teenager. i felt like a failure very often. if my brother way playing, we all had to go - neither parent would do something with me separately.

fast forward to today and my brother does something completely different to sport. ironically, i am objectively the more successful one out of the two of us (not that i care one jot these days about comparisons being drawn - i know that being happy is what matters).

but i can't seem to be around them all without these feelings creeping back. for instance, a few months ago they all went on holiday without me as they "didnt think i would want to come." another occasion i was due to go with them to a uk holiday, and the day before they text to say there was no room in the car so if i wanted to come i would have to drive myself (this being an 800 mile round trip that i could nowhere near have afforded alone and they were well aware of) . they're not big deals but they hurt.

growing up i was called "little hitler," i was asked constantly why i was so jealous of my brother in a really mocking tone, i was told i was weird for not reading magazines and always wanting attention. i was told that i was a hugely difficult child to bring up, and nothing like my brother, so it cant have been them that made a mistake, it was just me who was a shit daughter. i was dancing once in the living room to MTV and my mum told me to stop showing off. as a child i was extremely shy and i was certainly not dancing to show off.

the other side is that they are always there for me if i do really really need them. i think my dad does feel sorry for how things happened, but my mum doesnt really engage with the topic when i try to tsalk about it. she hates any form of self pity, which i understand, but equally i feel it's something i needed to talk about to resolve the relationshp with them. it will never happen though. they are good people, they do care and i know they love me. they have such a better relationshipw ith my brother, though, they seem to really genuinely respect him. there's so much angst between me and my parents that we just dont have that relationship. being critical of myself, i am an intense person, i know that, but i dont feel this sense of suspicion and hurt with anyone else in my life except them.

i know that practically, i either cut them off (i couldnt, i love them), or ignore it once and for all and try to surpress my anger and hurt and put it into perspective. my question really is, i am being unfair? is this usual childhood stuff that most people deal with?

i need a kick up the arse if i am that person, because my head feels such a mess these days whenever i am in contact with them.

OP posts:
AttilaTheMeerkat · 11/06/2017 16:14

I also do not think that CBT is quite the ticket here either; you need more than what this can offer.

fc301 · 11/06/2017 16:24

OP - Attila advice excellent as always. She has helped me on my journey.
There is hope. 2 years on from a similar realisation to yours I have grieved for the toxicity of my upbringing, for the realisation that they cannot care for me as much as I need. I no longer look to them for approval and this is absolutely key to your future happiness. I achieve this by minimal contact and refusing to share private information (as they cannot resist commenting on my life choices).
Do not let them define you.

IHateUncleJamie · 11/06/2017 16:34

I agree with Attila - there may come a time when CBT could be beneficial but until you have talked through - extensively - your upbringing and continued treatment by your parents with a good, empathic and experienced therapist, CBT is a bit like treating symptoms without diagnosing the cause.

I think a good counsellor or psychotherapist can be invaluable in your situation. Apart from anything else, reassurance that you are NOT to blame for your parents' behaviour, and validation that you are not "difficult" would be infinitely helpful. 💐

puglife15 · 11/06/2017 16:34

I think your parents made a big mistake in the way they painted a picture of you being the difficult, jealous one and your brother being perfect and talented. It's horrible having a label like that (probably for both of you, but worse for you) and now tbh it sounds like you're almost trying to fulfill it with the behaviour towards your parents (and why wouldn't the child in you want to do that).

It seems a bit strong to me to suggest they are horrible abusive parents - not saying they aren't, but it's difficult to say from your post. Certainly they made some fundamental mistakes by favouring your brother and sound closed off emotionally and I can completely understand why you'd feel resentful given that.

I think you need some distance from them at least temporarily.

EezerGoode · 11/06/2017 16:38

No,yr not,they are

NotYoda · 11/06/2017 18:57

What strikes me is that they valued achievement and activity. They valued what you did rather than what you were.

I have two kids and one of them has more in the way of objective interests and therefore the time and accolades that come along with that. It would be easy and wrong to show more interest and devote more time to him. But we work really hard not to

It's your job as a parent to value what your child brings, whatever that is.

Your mum sounds quite emotionally cut-off. I don't think any child should grow up feeling that their feelings of sadness or anger are dismissed as 'self pity'

It's no wonder you can't sweep this under the carpet - if parents don't acknowledge feelings, it's really hard for children to learn to manage them. And worse: if they don't acknowledge their part in creating those feeling then that's incredibly alienating.

And the name-calling is just plain wrong.

NotYoda · 11/06/2017 19:02

I also think that psychotherapy would be really advisable for you.
Particularly because you work in a really stressful, helping career.

I say that, because what you are and what you do are inextricably linked in the helping professions, and if you haven't learn to value yourself (because your parents only focussed on the "outside") it can become hard when things go wrong.

I am not sure if I have explained that terribly well...

woundedbutwalking · 11/06/2017 19:12

Not exactly the same, but very similar experience growing up, younger brother got everything in life handed to him on plate, I had to fight for everything. Counselling definitely helped me, and made it easier for me to be around my parents. My mum is only now showing me approval because I'm pregnant. It's such a wonderful feeling, I've never had before!!! But at the same time I'm really pissed off that none of my other achievements in life seemed to have meant anything. Anyway, YANBU to question why your parents have treated you differently & of course you will behave differently around them. Flowers

NotYoda · 11/06/2017 19:16

Another thought:

You're "awful" when you're with them (your word, not mine) because your adult self has the freedom to feel those feelings and is trying to express them. But they've got nowhere to go and you have no vocabulary to put with them. And you trying to express them makes them even more rejecting and you feel even more vulnerable at being rejected.

It's not your fault

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 11/06/2017 22:42

It's them / not you Flowers

lostandfound12 · 16/06/2017 19:59

thank you, this week has been a tough one with them :(

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AvoidingCallenetics · 16/06/2017 20:45

Sorry to hear that lost Flowers

junebirthdaygirl · 17/06/2017 09:08

Agree that you need couselling. Your dps are flawed people and are never going to be any other way. But by having counselling you will be taking control of your own life and moving on. You obviously have put great effort into study and achieved well. Now put some time into yourself .
I believe your dps did what they thought best but being messed up themselves from probably their own upbringing they did a botched job.
But you can emerge from this in a better place. Counselling with a good counsellor will help you offload memories and move on. Then you will see dps as two messed up individuals and the hurt will not penetrate to your heart.

RoyalUnited · 17/06/2017 12:20

DH's family are like this. It is sadly all too common I now understand.

Everything about your OP and Attila's post ring true for his family situation too - he was the scapegoat growing up but surprised them I think by becoming significantly more successful career-wise than the golden child. They then flipped roles depending on who would give them the most supply as adults.

Poor DH had to rediscover it all again when our DC came along and I naively didn't understand the dynamic at all. They attempted to play their nasty little games with the GC too and we are (quietly) LC/VLC with them now as a result.

It really doesn't sound as simple as them getting it wrong with you and your brother growing up - the refusal to listen to your feelings about it/ feel regret about the way they handled it and their dismissiveness about you regarding the holidays are definitely red flags that I have witnessed from DH's parents too.

Flowers I would seriously consider the counselling. I would also do everything you can to prevent them from triangulating your relationship with your brother - don't allow them to control the information stream or gossip about him to you. I would make the effort to have a relationship with him that is independent from your parents (in part at least - meet up with him without them/chat and contact each other regularly - share your news directly with each other and not through them). Unless he brings it up then I would avoid talking about your parents with him too.

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