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My friend is too harsh when rejecting I think

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Aggieisback1 · 06/06/2017 03:45

A woman I know has been doing a lot of OLD and RL dating recently. She's attractive ,intelligent but not without flaws herself TBH. She has got an ego boost having been single for a while but I don't feel comfortable with what she told me about one date she had and how she goes about rejecting men in general. She met this chap through OLD, got on well with him but didn't feel any chemistry. So she told him outright she wasn't attracted to him and the aspects of his looks which weren't to her taste. I think this was too much. She's also started taking a kind of harsh approach in real life. We were out for a drink and a man came up to us, she proceeds to say "not interested, neither is she (points to me) or anyone else for that matter". It did "work" in that we were left alone but he looked absolutely gutted and kind of melted into the floor. I know my friend has had some bad experiences but I feel like telling her to tone it down a bit. I can't imagine what it must be like having to do all the approaching and then someone humiliating you publically like that.

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Waltermittythesequel · 06/06/2017 15:46
Hmm
TheNaze73 · 06/06/2017 15:55

Why have you reported Hilda?

It's hardly a crime & she was only expressing an opinion.

HildaOg · 06/06/2017 15:58

You should have shown those balls with your friend when she was destroying some poor man's confidence.

MsMarvel · 06/06/2017 16:00

Aggie there aren't any restrictions on sweary words...

DearMrDilkington · 06/06/2017 16:01

Oh dear, hilda your in trouble Grin.

Op, stop being a wimp and tell your friend to pack it in.

Aggieisback1 · 06/06/2017 16:46

I suffer from severe anxiety. I have done for all my life and am on medication for it. I know there are people who still think this is a made up illness. It is not. It is difficult enough for me to leave the house a lot of the time. I was upset at this persons reaction and I didn't know what to say or do. We left the place shortly afterwards. I didn't like the language which was used and I don't like the gender based phrases "balls, man up and wimp" in any context. They Andre unhelpful, judgmental and cause hurt beyond that perceived by the user.

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MsMarvel · 06/06/2017 16:47

Unfortunately on a public forum you have no control over how other people chose to speak and respond to any threads, including your own.

Ellisandra · 06/06/2017 17:12

How is wimp a gender based phrase?
(Genuine question!)

alltalknobaby · 06/06/2017 17:19

Also wondering why you posted this. What do you need advice about?

CheersMedea · 06/06/2017 17:34

To leapfrog the mini-side show and return to the actual original question... I wonder if your friend is reacting to the Bye Bye Phillippe type problem.

Friends of mine who do OLD a lot say that if they send a sorry but no thanks polite message, either they get back 20 questions of "why" OR a lot of "who the hell do you think you are you fat old bag who do you think would want you?" type messages.

Maybe your friend is reacting as a result of this type of experience. Being constantly aggressively told you aren't all that would wear anyone down.

Aggieisback1 · 06/06/2017 18:15

To answer Cheersmedea she has probably had the normal spectrum of experiences with men. I hadn't heard her react this way before and I wouldn't have had her as a friend if she had. Her husband left her, but in all honesty he said he had simply fallen in love with someone else. It was sad and hard for her, but I don't think it justifies her recent response even if it explains it.
Why did I post? Wanted to see if people agreed this wasn't on. Turns out some do and some don't. I also think with all the negative, and presumably justified stuff about men on here who behave badly that it was worth pointing out that not all women are reproachless either. Her actions if like me you disagree with don't obviously justify any man behaving badly to any woman, nor does it work the other way, even if (and I'm not saying there is) some might say there is overall more bad behaviour from men to women than vice versa. I also agree that I wouldn't want my DS to face a reaction like this if he respectfully tried to speak to someone.

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springydaffs · 06/06/2017 18:29

Well. It's never a good move to treat people badly. Apart from anything, she may go for her dream job and the guy she insulted is her interviewer.

Plus I did a self defence course a while ago and the advice was do not humiliate a man bcs you don't know what sort of man he is. Sound advice imo.

That's the practical out of the way then. But I agree with you op it's a vile way to treat people. She may have her reasons but there's no excuse. Do you feel you could tackle her about it?

user1495832265 · 06/06/2017 18:36

Grin Hilda .

Aggieisback1 · 06/06/2017 19:13

Hilda
And you don't get to control people's response to your responses. Nor do you get to decide what is an acceptable level of sensitivity and therefore what qualifies as hypersensitive. Nor do you get to decide who does and doesn't have a problem. I find the second half of your post very very strange.
I'll be seeing the person who made the initial comments at some point and will raise it with her then.

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HildaOg · 06/06/2017 19:14

I'm helping you Aggie...

Aggieisback1 · 06/06/2017 19:17

You think you are, but you're not. Believe me, you're not.

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HildaOg · 06/06/2017 19:23

I am, you just have to listen. Go back up thread and read my words until they trigger you no more.

Aggieisback1 · 06/06/2017 19:25

Hilda please stop I am not rereading your post.

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CheersMedea · 06/06/2017 20:23

Hey hang on. OP didn't say the language "triggered" her.

She said amongst other things "I don't like the gender based phrases" - which is fair enough.

To just post more of it and tell her to keep reading it, it is not kind, goady and smacks of bullying to me. What's the point?

She is entitled to not like offensive language, not like gender based offensive language and say she objects to it.

Doesn't require more of it does it?

QueenMortificado · 06/06/2017 20:28

Some hideous posts on this thread.

The woman is behaving slightly cruelly but not in some of the way that's being described here. And Hilda that post is goady and unnecessary.

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