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should I go for divorse

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olliebird · 19/03/2007 12:00

I feel comsumed with anger towards my much older husband (he 62 me 36) who I believe has treated me terribly. Since we got togetther (10 year ago, married 6 1/2 years)hes had me running around doing all his dirty work. I do all the 'womans work' as well as the diy, gardening, lifting heavy objects, all the looking after our 3 and 5 year old boys, tax returns and running his property business etc etc. I've had his 28 year old daughter living with us for a year (she moved out when kids got nits!). He is very angry with me, throws tantrums on a daily basis, disciplining kids means being nasty and losing his temper. He calls me up on the phone to tell me about a new problem he is encountering - he is a walking maelstrom. We have massive financial problems, because we have been buying properties for his 2 grown up kids, we have an interest-only mortgage of 30k per year. He earns no proffits from his hobby business, but it requires him to work all the time (so he can't look after kids or even spare half hour to chat to me). Yet he is committed to outgoings of 80k per year - expensive pension payments, his medical insurance, crit illness, ex-wifes life insurance, his life ins, the most expensive dentist costing 6k per year, thousands on eating out (supposedly important meetings) monthly allowances for his grown up children. We also have to pay for losses on his little property empire for his ex wife and two grown up kids from previous marriage - 20k per year, yet ex-wife never sets foot in property - and my parents come down to do the gardening, I dealt with squatters, renoveated the house, endless maintenance jobs, contracts, agents, if I don't let them then they sit empty. He won't put more of property business into my name (currently I have very small share holding (10%). For two months he has refused to discuss our personal expenditure. I can't have sex with him any more and i'm getting pretty depressed. Now my three year old goes to nursery I need to retrain (as an accountant, cos I'm so good at it now after doing 10years of his accounts) However only way I can get the time would be to get out of running his business (property business with 150k annual turnover, management fees to do same job would be 25k per year) I thought the property business was for our future but most is allocated now (by him) to pay off his debts for annual expenditure of 80k per year, to his 2 kids from prev marriage (they are 30), to pay for his old folks home and to pay off our mortgage, leaving no future income. I need to earn money to keep me and kids afloat. I fear we lose house due to his spending. I don't love him any more, I feel no loyalty towards him. He appreciates nothing I've done. we are going to a councillor and he complained I left hairs in the sink and therefore I didn't love hime. REcent cerv cancer scare sin3 and an laser operation to remove cells has changed my perspective on everything and I realise he and his agenda is causing me a lot of stress and too big a work load with no gain - I have to look after myself so I can ward off cancer. Id I divorsed I would have enough money to pay for nice house and would be better off financially because I wouldn't have to keep remortgageing to pay for is spending. Divorse instinctively feels right, although i feel really bad for kids and he might well turn really nasty. I fell divorse is better sooner rather than later - boys are 5 and 3 - is this true? My family would be very supportive if I divorsed and agree dh is 'impossible'. Should I divorse him? thanks to anyone who bothers to read this - really

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mumto3girls · 19/03/2007 12:06

Divorce him - this man has no saving graces that I can read of and I honestly cannot think why you married him at all, let alone why you have stayed with him and had children too!

Sorry if that's harsh - I'm not in a good mood today...

Cazee · 19/03/2007 12:13

You mention councelling in your post. Are you booked in for sessions? It is possible that your husband doesn't realise how you feel, or may have some other reason for acting as he does (insecurity?). Talking honestly and openly can really help.

castlesintheair · 19/03/2007 12:15

Oh dear olliebird, that does sound hard. My father is on his 4th marriage and the circumstances sound quite similar to yours and they also have a DC of 3. If my "step-mother" (she's only a couple of years older than me) asked my advice, I'd tell her to get out whilst she can and IMO I think you should do the same. He sound's like he is taking the piss, as my Dad is with his wife. I am a great believer in sticking together but I wonder if the bitterness you feel towards him is reversable? Life is too short and you sound very unhappy. Good luck and I hope you find the strength to do the right thing for you and your DCs.

Also, a final piece of advice: my parents stuck it out for 20 years for us children. I have many unhappy memories of my childhood - their bitterness and eventual hatred towards each other, flaming rows, physical violence, affairs etc. With hindsight it would have been better for us all if they had split up when we were young.

magsi · 19/03/2007 12:41

You sound so sad and basically you are being treated as a slave. Perhaps you should wear an old maids outfit and maybe he would get the message!!.
If I were you I would honestly think about going your own way in life. I also have strong views on keeping the family together and would hate to consider splitting up the family, but quite honestly, I can see nothing but misery, heartache and serious money worries for your future if you stay with this man.
Have courage and make some sort of life for yourself again. Maybe your recent health scare was the sign you needed??

Courage to you and good luck

HappyDaddy · 19/03/2007 12:46

"He may turn nasty"? He already sounds like a nasty shit. You'd do far better to divorce his arse, he's a selfish, unappreciating git.

It sounds like he wanted a servant with benefits, not a wife.

olliebird · 19/03/2007 13:02

thanks so much, very useful advice, very helpful. Was very vulnerable when we met (recovering from mild mental illness - ocd and tourettes, explains a bit). Also when we met he had just done personal development courses and was trying to be new person and was quite nice - now reverted to type. We've lurched from crisis to crisis (doing up property, tax inquiry, babies etc) so I never had a chance to evaluate my life or his behaviour. Also Ive been over commited to idea of marriage.
I've always been pretty nice to him but can't any more and I don't want to fall into the 'marriage of acrimony'. I feel divorse could work better (he liked being a divorced dad for his other kids, perhaps a set up he would be happier with again).
re coucelling, this is good and hopefully will help him not be too nasty re a divorse (when i bring up subject he tells me if thats what I want then I have to leave the house immediately and he'll have the house and the kids and his little property empire - I can dissappear and die of cancer), councilor is an older man, so easier for him to take any advice. We had one session and h keen to go back - in fact he only wants to talk with councillor - costs 65 quid a time!!, hard for me cos I realise I can't honestly say I want to make the marriage work.
I'm going to see a lawyer and try to get my paperwork together (a lot of work in our case with extra complicated finances)so I am ready and this option is open to me. Will also register for the accountancy exams in december. Also will get the cleaner to come twice a week.
What's hard is not getting depressed cos i really need to stay focussed on retraining, staying healthy and being good mum. Thats why this advice it very helpful. thanks again

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mumto3girls · 19/03/2007 14:14

Olliebird - I really feel for you. Keep your chin up and do let us know how you'e getting on...Have you got friends that can help out at all?

avita · 06/06/2008 22:33

hi Olliebird, hope you have made a right decision and took steps to divorce this gik.
Make sure you do the following:

  1. Research and get a good divorce lawyer
  2. Get as much info about your H finances as possible incl. any documents or copies and store them away from home. 3)it is highly likely that you would be able to remain in the marital home with kids 4)once you made the decision about divorce try not to be emotional and retract as you would be left with little. good luck
Quattrocento · 06/06/2008 22:41

Good lord, how did you end up here? Glad you are taking steps to get out of this mess. Financial irresponsibility is impossible in other halves. Good luck

jasper · 07/06/2008 00:37

Good grief. How have you stood him for this long?

I would take my kids and live in a tent before I continued life with this man
Good luck x

itsMYmummy · 07/06/2008 00:42

Olliebird- re-read the post you've written, if that was written by a friend what would you advise?

jasper · 07/06/2008 12:53

dtmfa

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