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I have a baby with a man who i don't think loves me and i just need to vent.

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Woowoosmum · 15/03/2007 10:08

Excuse if what follows doesn't seem entirely balanced but i've been carrying this around with me for some time and i just need to let off some steam so this may sound paranoid or crazy but it's how i feel right now. I have a one year old daughter with a man i've been with for 4 and a half years. Before she was even conceived he cheated on me and spun me a whole web of lies to cover it up. I found out about it, got mad, and eventually agreed to try and put it behind us and start again. A few months later we had the surprise of finding out I was pregnant, so there wasn't much time to fully adjust and get over the affair before having to adjust to becoming parents. I know, i know perhaps having a baby with a man i couldn't trust wasn't the best move, but i really wanted the baby as soon as i found out and couldn't face another termination. yes, i must be completely irresponsible. anyway both of us have a great relationship with her and you couldn't imagine a happier or more sociable one year old, she's the light of my life.
But of course i suspect he still lies to me about practically everything, for example if a bottle of wine disappears and i ask him if he drank it he always claims to have spilled half of it. unlikely given that this happens every few days. anyway his borderline alcoholism is another matter...
The point is if i know he's lying to me about the little things, how the hell can i ever trust him on the big things? As a result i am constantly on edge and trying to second guess him, which is no way to live. I'm constantly snapping at him and picking fights and hes forever asking me what's wrong, which only winds me up further. It's no environment to raise a child in and i know that at the very least we need some serious counselling. But i wonder if theres any point given that i doubt very much if he even loves me at all, so there's no foundation to try and work from. He says he does, of course, but i don't know if its just my paranoia but i don't feel anything from him when he says these things. Its almost as if he's reading from a script. Our 'relationship' at the moment seems to consist of him coming in from work and accusing me of being moody,us getting the baby to bed and then sitting in front of the TV bickering. I mean good god, i'm not even 26 yet, is this what my life is doomed to be? (sorry about the self pitying tone). The thing that hurts the most is, stupid cow that i am, i actually love him, so its not as easy as just saying 'its over, lets separate' as i have nonetheless attempted to say over the past few months. To make matters worse, most of his family just hate me with a passion, especially his mum and his sister, and far from defending me against them he basically lets them think that he backs them up. He probably does, in reality, not that he tells me that of course! plus as i'm a stay at home mum, he has total control over the flat and the mortgage, i basically don't have a penny to my name, so i suspect if we were to split he could quite easily get custody of our daughter, even tho we're not married, because he's on her birth certificate, and he seems stable and settled, whereas i'm a jobless, propertlyless, clinically depressed f&*@up whose only redeeming feature is being a fairly good mum. i keep asking him to put my name on the mortgage so that i have some kind of equality with him and he keeps just not managing to get round to it, so i suspect more and more that he's just biding his time. he has said on more than one occasion that he thinks he'd be far more likely to get custody of her, if we split up, for the reasons listed above. I was sceptical at first but i'm starting to realise there might be some truth in it. If i lost her i think it would be the last straw. i've got barely anything to live for as it is. mind you, perhaps it would be better for her than being dragged round hostels or bed and breakfasts with me and then a life on benefits.

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kittylette · 15/03/2007 10:13

you are young, your unhappy, i dont think - judging by your post - you even want it to work,

knock it on the head and fella a fella you love and he loves and respects you back,

and if you can prove his borderline alcoholism i seriously doubt he would get custody

xxx

kittylette · 15/03/2007 10:14

that shouldve been 'find a fella'

colditz · 15/03/2007 10:23

he won't get custody. It doesn't matter how fecking fabulous he is, they have to prove you unfit. And you don't sound unfit to me.

You do, however, sound very very unhappy. Personally, i would get you and the baby out of this poisonous relationship before she gets to an age where she wants explainations - because then he could feed her all the bullshit he likes to make himself look great in her eyes. he seems an accomplished liar, and they are well used to lying to get their own way.

i understand this is a massive step. book some relate sessions, they will at least give you an idea about whether what you have now is worth saving, or can be saved. If he refuses to go, I think that says it all.

You cannot deal with a liar. he will tell youi whatever comes into his head, then accuse you of being mad, or sick, or spiteful when you challenge him on it.

You are not Jobless, you are a stay at home mum, and that IS a job, be it undervalued.

You may be clinically depressed. So? So you're ill! It's not your fault you are ill. Plus, getting treatment fo0r it may help you to see things more clearly. It definately helped me.

Go to the CAB and it will at least give you some idea of what your powers are here. You are not powerless in this situation, although it may feel like you are.

Oh, and I had two babies with a man I didn't trust, and now I have kicked him out - but he is still a good father to them. Just a shit partner to me. I think men can be both.

Nightynight · 15/03/2007 10:29

woowoosmum, what a horrid situation you have described.
Are you on anti-depressants? Are you making progress towards recovering from depression?
Can you get a job, or on a course that would give you some more qualifications and improve your confidence?

From where you are standing, a split with no money may look very daunting, but it is not impossible. Get in touch with a homeless charity (cant remember their name, I am not in the uk any more) and explain your circumstances before you make the break, they can usually find you a flat or even bump you up the council list. They can help you with benefit applications. Life on benefits is tough, but not that tough - loads of us have been through it or are going through it now. Going back to work with just one child is very possible, you wouldn't have to be stuck on benefits for ever. The worst part would probably only last for a short time, before you started to get your life sorted out.

By the way, theats that he is going to get the children if you split are very common. It's just a way to try and intimidate you. My ex did similar.

colditz · 15/03/2007 10:33

Yes, my ex always said "You are f*ckin mad, they won't give the kids to you!"

he was entirely wrong. And, although he likes to think he can, he can't cope with them and a house full time, all the time.

Woowoosmum · 15/03/2007 10:35

thank you both,
kitty, the way i feel right now its like there are piles of dog poo more attractive than me! don't think i could find another guy if i tried! Probably part of the reason why i'm still here.

Colditz, you made me cry, in a good way. He is an accomplished liar, to such an extent that i half beleive the things he says, or at least i want to. i've got this dream of a stable home and a functional relationship, and its hard to admit that that's not going to happen with him. We tried going to relate after the affair, when she was on the way but they said because he'd had problems with violence in the past (perhaps i should have mentioned that) they couldn't really help until he'd been to an intervention program. he went to this about twice in the end, they kept phoning up, asking why he hadn't been attending and i got sick of making excuses for him. so that's still unresolvedk, although thank god he hasn't been violent since very early on in the pregancy and i live in hope that being a dad might have helped him kick it altogether. so if we go back to relate this might still be an issue?

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Woowoosmum · 15/03/2007 10:40

nightynight - am on antidepressants, and they have helped a little but not entirely. i always found myself in these dead end jobs before i had her, and i suppose i thought that on becoming a mum, id finally found something i was good at. but id do anything for her and it would be good to feel i could support her myself if/when it comes to it.

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colditz · 15/03/2007 10:51

woowoosmum do you have MSN?

Woowoosmum · 15/03/2007 11:28

I do have MSN, would you like my email address?

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colditz · 15/03/2007 12:20

Yes please. Mine is colditzmum @ yahoo . co . uk - remove spaces.

Woowoosmum · 15/03/2007 14:02

thanks colditz, i'm on [email protected]

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