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French Martini Bastard

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backscratcher · 13/05/2017 13:54

Hi everyone.
I hadn't realised my first thread had filled up so quickly - I'm completely overwhelmed at how many people have replied to me - and how quickly you have all done it! And thank you to everyone who has inboxed me their support.
It has made me feel less alone.

Not much to update. He hasn't come home. The bags are still outside. He hasn't text or called and I haven't attempted to text or call him.

My sister has just left as she has to go and pick up her kids but she'll be back later. My daughter is with her dad until tomorrow so I have some time to think of what I'm going to do and what I'm going to tell her.

Some more things, which may sound like a drip feed so sorry about that - but to those that have asked if he'd done this before etc - he works only 25 hours a week on a rota basis, so early or late shift. I work full time week days. I earn considerably more than him. We have a joint account and both have our own accounts. I pay in a sum of money each month to the joint account which we can both access. Tenancy is in my name so I fully pay the rent. I know he has a credit card but don't know how much money he has in his own account, or what he owes on credit card.
He works 25 hours a week because he also has a 'hobby' which he is trying (unsuccessfully so far) to turn into a business. On days when he is not working then he will collect my daughter from school so that suits me.
I have never had any reason to doubt that when he was not working that he was anywhere dodgy or doing anything dodgy.

I have been cheated on before but I left him because of how distrustful I became and because I hated the person I had became, sneaking about to check phones and try to access their Facebook - I didn't ever want to be that person again. So I made an effort not to be that person again. I chose to trust.

I've known dp - or rather twatface- for over 4 years - I met him through a friend. He pursued me for a few months and we've properly been together 3 years. He moved in with me just over a year ago. I thought we were happy. I truly thought he loved me and my daughter. We rarely argued and when we did it was never serious really - just about small stuff. We had fun together. Our sex life was good. I felt loved by him. I never felt the need to try to check his phone or to ask him for the passcode or to ask to see his own bank statements or to double check where he was on his days off whilst I was at work. I always believed what he told me.
I feel like I've been taken for a mug - both financially and emotionally. And he was just some fucking cocklodger and he's been caught out and he's too scared to face me. He doesn't do confrontation well - prefers the easy life - the fucking coward.

I'm going to try to have a nap. I'm exhausted and my eyes are sore from crying.
I am going to contact him later because I want to know who she is and how long it's been going on.
I really don't think I will ever trust another man ever again.

I didn't rush into this with him after the split from my daughters dad. I saw no one else - not even a date - between dickhead1 and dickhead2 and I thought I'd chosen wisely. What a mug.

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Xanadu44 · 14/05/2017 08:28

Don't let the trolls get you down. Fuck them and fuck him. Please let us know how you're getting on. I just want to send you lots of posi vibes and hugs. I know everything will turn out well for you. Xz

Underthemoonlight · 14/05/2017 08:58

It takes a lot for someone to air their personal life and what they are currently going through on an Internet forum, I really admire op for spotting something wasn't right and the support that posters gave surely this is what this forums about not questioning someone's motives or integrity when really all they need is abit of support, hand holding and encouragement.

Elendon · 14/05/2017 09:08

Just wanted to add some support to you, ignore the 'hunters'.

It's astonishing that you know someone for years and yet on the turn of a sixpence they suddenly become someone else you don't know. I still think there is someone else. Gaslighting is definitely part of it.

Stay strong! Flowers

Alpies · 14/05/2017 09:15

Hey OP, well done for being strong! Ur doing amazing!

I wouldn't waste any time worrying abt the troll hunters. I got a roasting when I first joined here and in absolute desperation of my situation sought some advice. There r people who apparently just scour mumsnet for trolls. I think they r the biggest trolls of all!

I'm sorry u went through all that with DP or rather LCB. I was hoping for a different outcome tbh and hoped there would be a decent explanation but the fact that he obviously deleted the message and try to make it look as if ur mad, is a giveaway.

I reckon the answers must be on his Facebook. I found my answers by going through friends list and then going through their pictures and then saw lots of evidence in comments.

Mind u probably best u don't waste time on this either and try to move on with ur life. Ur better rid of this man. Sounds like he has been living off ur generosity and abusing ur kindness.

Big hug xxx

Ps - my apologies for yesterday. I shouldn't have created a thread early morning hoping You would find it and come bk. got trolled too which made me feel awful. I really emphasise with what ur going through and it came from a good place.

BIWI · 14/05/2017 09:28

FFS - you didn't get trolled Alpies! You got called out for starting a pretty insensitive thread, which was also a TAAT.

BirdBandit · 14/05/2017 09:40

OP please don't get sad because other people can't imagine that what you experience is true. Please see it as a ray of hope that some people live a life where shit like this would be unbelievable, because maybe one day you can live without this horrible stuff too.

People called me a troll when I started posting about my car crash marriage, and I was minimising so not to out myself.

Big hugs to you.

Joysmum · 14/05/2017 09:47

Wishing you all the best for today. It can't be easy to tell a child that your relationship is over.

Have you settled on how to approach this? I haven't got a clue how to even start and maybe that's something MN would be useful for.

You won't please people all of the time, I appreciate you're feeling very sensitive and vulnerable right now but a huge majority on your threads have been supportive. Please try to remember that. Flowers

Serialweightwatcher · 14/05/2017 10:02

I wouldn't know who's a troll ever to be honest - I'm rubbish at that because I always assume it's correct and the person needs help. If they are piss takers then good luck to them, but if they are not I hope most of us help as much as possible ... don't upset yourself if very few have called you a troll, it's their problem not yours - they don't know you and they are not worth thinking about. There's always a cynical, self righteous arsehole around every corner to try drag you further down.

You keep being strong and thank goodness that this has been found out now, so you don't have to waste another minute of your precious life with a prick who doesn't deserve you or your daughter. I know you're in pain and it's so hard to go through this more than once, but you seem very strong and thankfully confident in yourself not to take any more crap from anyone. Take care OP Flowers

NavyandWhite · 14/05/2017 10:14

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Peanutbutterrules · 14/05/2017 10:34

Sorry to read the updates, and the troll shite.

Your Xdp is a twat -and a coward - well done for not listening to his lies. As for the troll hunters just ignore - don't let them chase you away, the amount of support here vastly outweighs the idiots.

Queenofthedrivensnow · 14/05/2017 10:50

Never once thought this was a troll. I think the op is admirably strong. Her exp is a knob .

Op you deserve and will find better x

Serialweightwatcher · 14/05/2017 11:04

NavyandWhite I have never seen any and I'm certainly not naive ... I don't say there aren't any, but I've never noticed any obvious ones personally - I've come on and seen threads deleted which I had not seen previously so maybe they are the obvious ones

MangosAndPapayas · 14/05/2017 11:19

Cheating is extremely common. People being surprised by discovering cheating are also very common. What's so suspicious about this one?

PoorYorick as DaisyChains said, trolls work by trying to engage people emotionally by posting a vaguely plausible story.

An often seen feature on a troll thread is something that is unfolding real time with regular updates as in "Shit. I've just found [a love letter from an OW and a pair of skimpy pants] in my husband's garden jacket. He's due home in 5 minutes. What should I do?".

Trolls thus cause a lot of difficulty for anyone who really does seek immediate real time advice because the troll hunters come out in full force for any thing that is real time unfolding or close to real time unfolding with lots of regular real time updates. ["He's called to say he's going to his sisters now. What should I do?"]

One of the worst things about trolls though is that quite often you will get MN posters giving really good advice (and sharing their own tips and experience) that just gets swept away when the thread is deleted. I think that's unfair myself because the answers even to a troll thread can really help other people. And it's really annoying if you have taken your time to write out a long post of advice that just gets deleted because the OP is a troll.

DaemonPantalaemon · 14/05/2017 11:21

Serialweightwatcher There was a troll called iwashappy who trolled Mumsnet for almost a year, filling up thread after thread after thread about her husband's adultery and the breakup of her marriage and its aftermath. It turns out she was posting a real life situation about another person, and had gone as far as to fool people here into meeting her in real life. Those of us who were suspicious of her story, and pressed her a little more because it had quite a few holes and did not feel emotionally true, were shouted down and called cynical bitches.

What is really stunning in her case is that in her very first thread, she was suspected of trolling, and had her account suspended by HQ. She then she made a huge apology for getting certain facts wrong, and then was welcomed back after her gracious apology. She then continued to post, for at least a year, and she would, on other threads, make a big song and dance about being accused of trolling. And yet all the time she was actually trolling.

So maybe the best thing to do Serial, if you believe a poster, is to give the support you feel you can, without calling the more cynical of us names. The Relationship Board really is full of trolls, and if you read enough, they become easy to spot, especially due to the posting style of the more frequent offenders!!

Cricrichan · 14/05/2017 11:23

What a pathetic idiot. He clearly thinks you're as stupid as he is and hopes you believed you just imagined David and the martinis just because he said so.

All the best for the future op xx

stonecircle · 14/05/2017 11:27

Oh yes daemon - I remember Iwas Hmm. I fell for her hook line and sinker. I thought at the time she was a bit of a rarity but there seem to have been loads of trolls lately and I've fallen for a few more. I'm now deeply suspicious of threads which read like soap operas and where people are desperate for regular updates - which they get.

Hepzibar · 14/05/2017 11:38

@DaemonPantalaemon absolutely spot on re the Iwas thread. Any questioning of the poster was met with hostility from mnttrs. Those threads have made me even more cynical and I very rarely post on a relationship thread.
That said OP, good on you for not putting up with any crap from FMB and getting shut of the cocklogder. You are well shut of him.

PollytheDolly · 14/05/2017 11:41

Just catching up.

Well done OP. You've done brilliantly. Onwards and upwards now.

Plans for today?

SuperFlyHigh · 14/05/2017 11:50

OP, just another voice adding, I never ever thought you were a troll just someone extremely (and sadly rightly) concerned for their relationship due to your ex P (leaving out the "D" there!) messing around.

I hope you've got something nice planned for today and/or you can plan something nice maybe for you and DD and DSis etc to do in future.

Take care, don't let the troll hunters scare you off, like you rightly said, you're living this nightmare. It's been a big big big shock to you so deal with it as you think best, talking, crying etc.

Flowers
SymphonyofShadows · 14/05/2017 12:11

I remember the user name iwashappy but there were several long running multiple threads at the time. What was the premise? I don't want to say which one I think in case I've got it wrong.

OP I posted on a relationships thread years ago under a different name about a situation that was entirely true but unusual. I got nothing but support. If I posted about it now it wouldn't last 5 minutes.

dizzyajc · 14/05/2017 12:12

Backscratcher....YOU ARE AMAZING!!!! You may not feel it right now but trust me, you are.
I've followed your thread from beginning to now and if I could give you a medal then I damn well would. In posting on here you've unknowingly given strength to many other women in similar situations, me included. Thank you!!! Life will get better x

To everyone else that's responded in a constructive way, you too are rather awesomely fabulous! My knowledge of iPhones has increased massively ( never forget WHERES MY PHONE, I only discovered it tracks my husbands phone a few weeks back. I've since found out which Lay by he sits in to drink!!)
I genuinely feel fairly gullible now after listening to my husbands bullshit for so long but, there thanks to this thread I'm beginning to see where I've been a complete wet lettuce. Cheers all!

ohforfoxsake · 14/05/2017 12:15

Back scratcher his reaction has brought back how my XP found it so easy to walk away from us. After a decade and 4 kids, he just wasn't arsed. I will never understand how he didn't put up a fight, but I do realise how different our values were.

His reaction says it all.

CrispyBathTowel · 14/05/2017 12:22

If you are still reading OP and if you have found this thread to be of valuable support keep posting and don't let the troll hunters on other threads put you off (I haven't seen any accusations btw, MN is a big place).

Joysmum · 14/05/2017 12:44

Fantastic post dizzy and just goes to show that all posts benefit so many others reading them, either now, or building towards a change in future.

Backscratcher you've changed more than your own life with your candid honesty. That's something to be proud of Flowers

ExConstance · 14/05/2017 13:49

I knew you were no a troll because there are no embellishments, just a sad set of events - you have my sympathy for having met such a duplicitous shit. I do hope he doesn't come crawling back trying t get back in your good books because you do deserve someone far better.