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French Martini Bastard

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backscratcher · 13/05/2017 13:54

Hi everyone.
I hadn't realised my first thread had filled up so quickly - I'm completely overwhelmed at how many people have replied to me - and how quickly you have all done it! And thank you to everyone who has inboxed me their support.
It has made me feel less alone.

Not much to update. He hasn't come home. The bags are still outside. He hasn't text or called and I haven't attempted to text or call him.

My sister has just left as she has to go and pick up her kids but she'll be back later. My daughter is with her dad until tomorrow so I have some time to think of what I'm going to do and what I'm going to tell her.

Some more things, which may sound like a drip feed so sorry about that - but to those that have asked if he'd done this before etc - he works only 25 hours a week on a rota basis, so early or late shift. I work full time week days. I earn considerably more than him. We have a joint account and both have our own accounts. I pay in a sum of money each month to the joint account which we can both access. Tenancy is in my name so I fully pay the rent. I know he has a credit card but don't know how much money he has in his own account, or what he owes on credit card.
He works 25 hours a week because he also has a 'hobby' which he is trying (unsuccessfully so far) to turn into a business. On days when he is not working then he will collect my daughter from school so that suits me.
I have never had any reason to doubt that when he was not working that he was anywhere dodgy or doing anything dodgy.

I have been cheated on before but I left him because of how distrustful I became and because I hated the person I had became, sneaking about to check phones and try to access their Facebook - I didn't ever want to be that person again. So I made an effort not to be that person again. I chose to trust.

I've known dp - or rather twatface- for over 4 years - I met him through a friend. He pursued me for a few months and we've properly been together 3 years. He moved in with me just over a year ago. I thought we were happy. I truly thought he loved me and my daughter. We rarely argued and when we did it was never serious really - just about small stuff. We had fun together. Our sex life was good. I felt loved by him. I never felt the need to try to check his phone or to ask him for the passcode or to ask to see his own bank statements or to double check where he was on his days off whilst I was at work. I always believed what he told me.
I feel like I've been taken for a mug - both financially and emotionally. And he was just some fucking cocklodger and he's been caught out and he's too scared to face me. He doesn't do confrontation well - prefers the easy life - the fucking coward.

I'm going to try to have a nap. I'm exhausted and my eyes are sore from crying.
I am going to contact him later because I want to know who she is and how long it's been going on.
I really don't think I will ever trust another man ever again.

I didn't rush into this with him after the split from my daughters dad. I saw no one else - not even a date - between dickhead1 and dickhead2 and I thought I'd chosen wisely. What a mug.

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ohtheholidays · 13/05/2017 18:42

I've just read all the way through both of your threads OP and I'm so sorry.

What a Wanker and don't ever forget he's the one who's lost out not you and your DD.

Patsy99 · 13/05/2017 18:42

You imagined it/you've got trust issues - he's not very original!

You kick arse.

Haffdonga · 13/05/2017 18:46

I'm so sorry, Backscratcher.

Allabitmuchisntit · 13/05/2017 18:47

If he rings again just laugh at the tosser and put the phone down.

And sew tiny chopped up bits of kipper into the lining of one of his coats/jackets/suits should you get the opportunity.

PoorYorick · 13/05/2017 18:47

She was prettier and slimmer than me and I tortured myself with that knowledge for a long time.

I know it shouldn't matter, but I'd also like to add that Tiger Woods cheated endlessly on his Swedish model wife, and women as beautiful as Beyonce and Halle Berry (ffs) have also been cheated on. Whatever else it may be, it is absolutely not a reflection on you or your appearance.

Your strength is an inspiration. You and your daughter are going to be more than fine. A barely solvent lying cocklodger is no loss.

AnathemaPulsifer · 13/05/2017 18:48

Had you mentioned the cocktail message to him? If so, console yourself with the fact he's too stupid to even leave it in place and concoct a halfway plausible fiction around it. His whole demeanour is textbook 'caught cheating'.

So sorry you're in this position. It sucks, but you'll get through it.

qazxc · 13/05/2017 18:51

What a knob! It never ceases how easily the script comes to these dickheads.
He's lying, covering his tracks and trying to find out how much and what you know. Fuck him do not engage in his mind games. Just get rid asap.
I wouldn't torture yourself with who the other woman is.

Thisiswhyileft · 13/05/2017 18:51

Attack is always the best form of defence for liars and cheaters, you did this, you've been behaving like that, I did this because of your behaviour.

He'll continue to deny and imply that the split was because you didn't trust him. If you have further contact tell him you're embarrassed for him.

alphajuliet123 · 13/05/2017 18:51

@backscratcher

Did you check his Whatsapp?? I just had a text and a Whatsapp come through on my iPhone and noticed on the preview the icon is similar.

ChanandlerBongsNeighbour · 13/05/2017 18:51

Sending you strength OP, you'll get through this x

MollyHopps · 13/05/2017 18:56

What an utter, utter bastard. You poor thing Backscratcher

You are being far stronger than you probably think you are. Have a good drink and a bitch with your sister and then tomorrow you can rebuild.

I can't believe that he honestly thinks you are that stupid, that he could convince you that you were seeing things.

Flowers
TheGentleMoose · 13/05/2017 18:57

@whattheactualfudge Then please feel free to explain how you can find out who he was with?

Kittencatkins123 · 13/05/2017 18:58

Sending you Gin

He's a selfish lying bastard and you deserve so much more.

At some point in the future, when you are way way over this and happy with someone new who is actually decent, remember to celebrate with a fucking French martini.

Flowers
TheGentleMoose · 13/05/2017 18:58

"whattheactualfudge Sat 13-May-17 13:58:08
OP if you inbox me his name, I can find out who she is for you... x"

This is what you said, I'd like to know how you will go about it as I can't think of any legal ways this could happen if someone has deactivated Facebook etc.

loveka · 13/05/2017 19:03

I'm sorry you have gone through this I really am, it's awful.

But...

On my new phone, if someone calls me who is not in my address book, a name comes up. However, in the log the name isn't there, just the number. The name only shows up on the screen at the time. I find this a bit weird and big brother-ish. It happens when I call a number not in my address book too . It says calling xxxxx name, not the number. Again, in the log it just records I called a number, no name.

faerveren · 13/05/2017 19:04

user It is easy to find some people - but with just a name and no other information? Then to go on to say you can identify who he was with - just by knowing his name - is utter bollocks.

You don't need a lot of info - but more than a name - which the OP would have to give - was my original point.

CainDinglesLeatherJacket · 13/05/2017 19:04

@TheGentleMoose obviously fudge can't do what they're pretending to be able to do. I can't help but question their motives Hmm

nakedscientist · 13/05/2017 19:05

OP you are fantastic. His loss.
I really don't understand why these cheaters like to lie so much, its like they get into the habit. If they like someone else, then so be it, but WHY lie about it. Why not say, I've met MissTwatface and I want to be with her, not you?..and be done with it.
Or it was a mistake, I love you and if you can find it in your heart to forgive me blah blah.
He's been caught, now face just the music but no, they are SOOO cowardly.
hugs Flowers

MargotMoon · 13/05/2017 19:06

You can do it, backscratcher, because this time will be easier than last time. You're taking no shit and you're not setting yourself up for months of heartache by letting him back in your life like you did with DD dad. It might not feel great but you're doing right by yourself and DD, and you will live to fight another day

rightwhine · 13/05/2017 19:09

At least he's done you a favour by lying and gaslighting you. It's made you stronger in your conviction that he's a twat. There are no "but what ifs" that may make you doubt that you have done the right thing.

mustiwearabra · 13/05/2017 19:09

I can't believe he told you you'd imagined it/concocted the story about the text. What a twat.

CalmItKermitt · 13/05/2017 19:13

I assume Fudge was just being nosey.

glitterfarts · 13/05/2017 19:14

You are so strong. What an amazing role model for your daughter that you refuse to be treated like that and lied to.

With regards to questions, I was going to say:

Ask him where he slept last night.

Then ask any of these questions: what he slept on, what colour the sheets were, what colour the wall/floor etc were, did he have 1 pillow or 2, did he have a blanket or duvet, what and where did he have for breakfast. Then ring supposed friend he slept at and ask the same questions and see if the answers match ;) He can easily organise a mate to cover for him but they never discuss the details.....

whattheactualfudge · 13/05/2017 19:16

Calm Assume all you like! Now for the very last time - I WAS TRYING TO HELP!!!!!

whattheactualfudge · 13/05/2017 19:17

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