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Is it time to separate

33 replies

Noggin777 · 07/05/2017 20:39

Hi,
This the first time I've ever posted on a site and I just wanted to talk to someone who doesn't know my life.
I wil have been married 1 year next month and I am struggling. I was a single mum to a teenager and after dating a while he moved into my home. We were good and happy and apart from a few awful time when he drunk toO much things were good. He pays half the bills and does help at home.We got married and TBH almost straight after it went wrong. He has anger issues and if we rowed he would text me all day at work nasty messages. He shouts and swears and says awful insults. He has said nasty things about my family and colleagues at work. When he drinks he's can't stop. He doesn't drink regularly about once a month or so... he would be aggressive and with the worst language I've ever heard. This got progressively worse until on one occasion he was violent to my teenage son. I phoned the police as I didn't know how to stop it. Over the next few weeks he made promises and he came home. He was fined at court. My son will never forgive him and I'm struggling to. Since that day he promised never to drink- there has been 2 occasions when he has when me and my son were away. He is really trying as he is drinking the way he did and he wants to try and make things right but I just don't think I can. His agressiveness spills out and sometimes he will still shout and swear. Then he apologises but will say- I'm sorry but you .... and then will continue to tell me off again. I decided to buy my house from the council but I'm doing on my own and he's angry about that too. I just don't know if we have a future and I don't want to risk me and my sons home. How can I give up on our marriage when he's trying to change. But also how can I continue if my son never forgives him.

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Noggin777 · 07/05/2017 20:42

I mistyped above- he's not drinking the way he was- I missed out the word 'not' sorry

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pigeondujour · 07/05/2017 21:31

Your bloke was violent to your son and you're still there? Grim. You need to get out pronto.

DoloresAbernathy · 07/05/2017 21:34

Yep you need to leave, just think you and your Son.

MusicToMyEars800 · 07/05/2017 21:36

I would leave, it doesn't sound like he is getting any better tbh, he has been violent to your son, I don't think it is fair on your son that you are continuing a relationship with this man, and will your son be bale to forgive you if he gets violent again, have you spoke to him and asked him how he feels about you staying with this man? I think if he was really trying to change he would be taking some counselling or anger management and not drink at all until it gets properly sorted.

Sn0tnose · 07/05/2017 21:37

We were good and happy and apart from a few awful time when he drunk toO much things were good. Were these awful times before you got married? Or afterwards?

He has anger issues and if we rowed he would text me all day at work nasty messages. He shouts and swears and says awful insults. He has said nasty things about my family and colleagues at work. This is not normal and it will escalate. He's trying to isolate you from your support network.

When he drinks he's can't stop. He doesn't drink regularly about once a month or so... Sounds quite regular to me.

Over the next few weeks he made promises and he came home. He was fined at court. My son will never forgive him and I'm struggling to. I'm trying really hard to be sympathetic here, but what the actual fuck? Some violent drunk laid his hands on your teenage son and not only did you let him back into the family home, but you let him come back within a few weeks?! I would imagine your son is finding it quite hard to forgive you as well. What on earth were you thinking?

Since that day he promised never to drink- there has been 2 occasions when he has when me and my son were away. He is really trying as he is drinking the way he did and he wants to try and make things right but I just don't think I can. So he's proven to you on more than one occasion that he has no intention of keeping to the promises he made and as soon as he thinks your back is turned, he'll drink. He's not trying to stop drinking, he's trying to get you back where he wants you.

His agressiveness spills out and sometimes he will still shout and swear. Then he apologises but will say- I'm sorry but you .... and then will continue to tell me off again. Does he do this when he's sober too? He's not sorry at all. He's blaming you for his violence and aggression.

I decided to buy my house from the council but I'm doing on my own and he's angry about that too. I just don't know if we have a future and I don't want to risk me and my sons home. You need to get legal advice. If you purchase a house while you're married, will he be entitled to a share of if if you divorce?

How can I give up on our marriage when he's trying to change. But also how can I continue if my son never forgives him. You haven't written anything that suggests he's trying to change. Has he sought any professional help? Has he been to his GP? Has he sought advice from any substance abuse charity? Let's hope your son doesn't give up on you before you give up on your husband.

I would agree that alcoholism is a disease and I'd imagine that it's bloody difficult to stop drinking if you suffer from it, but you are a mother of a teenager. Your first responsibility should be to him and ensuring he's not at risk of physical violence in his own home from a dangerous, violent drunk his mother allowed into the family home!

Wolfiefan · 07/05/2017 21:38

He's an angry alcoholic
You and your kids deserve better.
Trying to change isn't bloody good enough. He moves out. Maybe if he shows over weeks and months that he stops drinking and deals with the other issues then maybe you could resolve things.
Your kids should come first.

cestlavielife · 07/05/2017 21:42

You 've given no good reason to keep him in your home and to stay married.
Get rid.
You should have chucked him out for good when he was violent to your ds

Ellisandra · 07/05/2017 21:45

How can you continue if your son never forgives him?!

Why the fuck should your son forgive a man that assaulted him?

End this now, before your son doesn't forgive you for choosing a man who assaulted him.

Naicehamshop · 07/05/2017 22:19

Get rid. He is an angry, violent and controlling man and he hasn't really changed. How can you allow him to stay in your son's life?

colouringinagain · 07/05/2017 22:21

Yes. Definitely.

Moanyoldcow · 07/05/2017 23:10

If you don't leave him immediately you may as well say goodbye to your relationship with your son - he should be the most important thing in your life and by staying with this bully you are saying he isn't important to you.

Also, how can you buy a house alone if you are married? It will found as a joint asset in the event of a divorce.

randomuntrainedcuntowner · 07/05/2017 23:23

If anyone ever laid a FINGER on my dd, I would tear them limb from limb. I could NOT continue a romantic relationship with them!

fulltothebrim72 · 07/05/2017 23:25

Would you like your teenage son to treat his girlfriend this way?

I am sure not, so set an example and show him it is totally unacceptable for men to treat women like this. He will respect you for it and learn what a healthy relationship is.

I sadly didn't take this advice and left it way too late, damage had been done. My son and I are now trying to recover the years we lost and out damaged relationship , pls don't do the same.

Joysmum · 08/05/2017 00:01

I'd go fucking ballistic if anyone started on my daughter. They'd not get a second chance for something that serious.

I'm struggling to understand you Confused

Notmyrealname85 · 08/05/2017 00:10

You need to repair your relationship with your son and rebuild the trust with him - you let a man who was violent to him back in your son's home.

Get rid of this lowlife

notangelinajolie · 08/05/2017 00:17

It's over. Why the hell did you marry him?

DoryDingDong · 08/05/2017 00:21

Be a good mum and show your son you care and love him more than this man.
It's time to admit you are not compatible with this man and move on.

Cricrichan · 08/05/2017 03:39

He was violent towards your son. The answer is easy. You split up.

number1wang · 08/05/2017 03:55

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LellyMcKelly · 08/05/2017 04:12

Any man who hit my kid would be out that door so fast his feet wouldn't touch the floor. Let's be clear, you do not make him do anything. He chooses to behave like this. Get him out of your house and life before things get any worse.

user1486956786 · 08/05/2017 04:34

Ditto to the above.

If you are not a nice drunk, don't drink!!!!

If you ignore all other comments, then my only other suggestion is he should change what he drinks and drink less? I am not nice when I drink wine, and stay clear of it but I'm certainly not violent and aggressive!!!

KoalaDownUnder · 08/05/2017 05:37

There is nothing salvageable here.

Get rid of him.

lizzyj4 · 08/05/2017 06:00

He should have been out of the house as soon as he assaulted your son. That should have been your line in the sand (if not his behaviour before). By allowing him back in the house, you have let your son down very badly, and you continue to let him down for as long as this man is in your home.

It doesn't matter how you feel about your husband, or whether he's 'trying', it's way too late for that. He has taken away all of your options through his behaviour. You have to get him out of the house.

Depending on the age of your son, if SS become aware of the situation, there is a high risk of your son being removed from your home - they would do that because you are not protecting him. You have him living in a house where he is at risk of physical harm.

As PP have said, don't buy your home while you are still married to this man. Depending on where you live, if you do it will become a marital asset and he may be entitled to half of it, even if his name isn't on the mortgage or the deeds.

Noggin777 · 08/05/2017 08:12

Hi everyone, thankyou I appreciate the relplys. This happened back in November and he did move out for a few months. I did think there was a change in him which is why he evebtually came back. My son is 18 now, not a child. He will always be my baby and the most important person to me. If I felt for one sec he blamed me at all- or was angry- but he doesn't. I have a really good close relationship with my son.
I know this sounds awful but I'm not even married a year. It just feels so much like a huge failure. I wish so much I never got married then it would be easier. I honestly don't think I even like being married when things were good.

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cestlavielife · 08/05/2017 08:19

Better a "failure" now than a beaten up mess figuratively or literally further down the line .
Doesn't matter if your son is 18 . 34 or 12. Who is more important ?