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is this an abusive relationship

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user1493567361 · 30/04/2017 19:42

I have been a lurker for a while however I finally decided to post today as my husband just left today. I just wanted some external feedback on my situation and whether I am crazy or there is something I should/could have done differently.

Firstly I a met my husband abroad he had been deported from the UK, after a prison sentence (I know this sounds awful already). Anyway I was on holiday we clicked, and fell for him, he was quite honest with the fact he had been to prison and deported etc I guess I just believed people make mistakes etc. Anyway fast forward 8 months we got married, more due to the fact that I lived in the UK and he was abroad, I couldn't just move (my parents wouldn't have allowed me unless married) and he couldn't come over. Don't get me wrong I didn't feel pressured I genuinely thought I was madly in love and wanted to marry him. We got married and moved to the Far East together, I got a job and we were relatively comfortable, he couldn't work as it took a while to sort out his visa stuff, and jobs are pretty hard to come by in Asia unless you're an expat. Anyway did that for three years I got pregnant moved back to UK left him Asia we lived apart for about 1.5 years, as I got a scholarship to study and worked in UK, I regularly sent him money again as he had no income. I then got a job in Europe and he moved over to Europe with me 8 months ago. I fell pregnant very quickly(currently 8 months pregnant) he recently got a job 6 weeks ago and started working. That's our background now the main issues I have with him is his temper, when he gets annoyed or we have an argument he insults me belittles me, and says all sorts of things he is okay to swear at me in front of our three year old. About two months ago we had an argument as I didn't like the way he told our son off, I mean he can be a bit annoying but aren't all two year olds. So I told him not to shout at him like that and he went ballistic, this cumulated in him dragging me across the room pulling my hair, at one point I got in bed with my son to settle him and my husband jumped on the bed and stood over me, I was terrified he would kick my stomach me being pregnant and all. Anyway he apologised for that and suggested next time I could approach him in a less confrontational way but his actions were completely wrong. So we moved forward, fast forward to last week and we argued about my son being in nursery, I'm due to go on maternity so will be at home, so he said we should take him out, I said I would prefer him to continue to go as he is picking up a new language and it is good for him to go as I will be knackered with the new baby and no time for a toddler. Anyway he was pretty irate about that and said we couldn't afford it, now I agree whilst it won't break the bank I guess we could save that money, so I suggested I would do some extra online work to cover the expense. He was still adamant that we should take him out, again this disagreement deteriorated into him insulting me, apparently I am a bad mother and wife, immature (he is 11 years older) he also threatened to slap me as that wouldn't affect my pregnancy. Fast forward to this weekend he came to speak to me and said it's best if I start my maternity immediately and go back to the UK to have the baby as we cannot live together (I was not speaking to him) and he wouldn't not tolerate this, giving me three days to leave. Anyway I tried to speak to him today and said I cannot leave so abruptly my maternity is to start in two weeks, I am 36 weeks pregnant, I don't have a home in the UK ( I could stay with my mum) and that I would prefer to stay and have the baby and if he still felt like that after the baby is born we could make plans on how to deal with it. He went ballistic again called me stupid, insulting me that I don't know how to be a wife, that I have underestimated him and he will in fact leave right now and is not coming back. So he packed his bags, continued shouting insults to me, transferred £1500 from my account and walked out.

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Iflyaway · 01/05/2017 00:15

and dragged me around a little bit.

WTF?!

You think this is o.k.?!

Please take yourself and your kids out of this situation, whatever it takes.

I say that as a survivor.

terrifictoddlers · 01/05/2017 00:15

Flowers ahh x big hug to you. Please leave him. He is no good. You deserve so much better. This must be so hard for you being so heavily pregnant. Take care of yourself, look after your bump. Come back to UK as soon as you feel able. Please ditch this guy. I'm sure he's not all bad, and u see some of his strengths - but what he is doing to you and your babies is wrong - VERY wrong, and it won't get better. Please please leave him when u can. Go somewhere safe. He will b fine. You need to look after you and your little ones. And right now u need to feel safe and able to enjoy and nurture your bump and soon to be new little person. Good luck, take care Flowers

DoIDontIhavethetalk · 01/05/2017 06:57

OP - you have a lot on your plate. Without wishing to add to it - don't underestimate how valuable your children are to him as a tool to control you. I can pretty much guarantee (though would be fabulous to hear otherwise) that he WILL use them. He WILL kick up a fuss. He WILLt try to have your son returned via the Brussels II convention to where you are currently living where local courts will decide custody issues.

I will say leave, and leave now (and if you can get his consent in writing all the better) but be prepared for him to change his mind. You need to speak to a solicitor familiar with international custody issues.

OnTheRise · 01/05/2017 10:18

It would be so much better if you could go and visit your mum right now, and take your child with you... and then just not go back. But I realise it's not always safe to fly during pregnancy, and you might be too close to delivery. If you can fly, though, find your child's birth certificate, your wedding certificate, and all relevant paperwork, and get yourself on a plane. It would be so simple.

I hope you're ok.

AndNoneForGretchenWieners · 01/05/2017 10:24

If your employer is UK based, can you arrange a transfer back to the UK for when you return from mat leave? I would absolutely come home before the birth, too. Your H may not want the children but may try to take them as a method of controlling you.

OhWhatFuckeryIsThisNow · 01/05/2017 10:37

Can I ask, on what basis does he have leave to remain in the country you are in? Is it down to being married to you as an Eu citizen? I'm wondering if he would still have the same rights if you weren't together or you returned to the uk? And was that country aware of his record?
Could you Eurostar back home if you can't fly?
Pixie don't be a dick.

FannyFare · 01/05/2017 10:41

He sounds really, truly horrible and YES, definitely abusive.

user1493567361 · 01/05/2017 11:06

Pixie you are right I do feel pretty shit exposing my child to such especially as I grew up in a violent household and I know how it affected me. I guess I have been in denial not thinking his behaviour is that bad and if I keep the peace he doesn't have random outbursts it's usually when I disagree with him.
My work is region specific so I cannot really just transfer back to the UK I am due to go on maternity leave in two weeks so just hoping I can cope till then.

I know what i have to do, it's just hard to accept and being so heavily pregnant it's even harder. Thanks to all those who have offered advice and support, I am just a little overwhelmed at the moment.

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HeavenlyEyes · 01/05/2017 12:28

this is not your fault. But I agree that coming back to the uk with your babies and keeping well away from this monster forever seems to be the best plan. Freedom programme online version is fab btw too x

user1493567361 · 06/05/2017 09:58

Thanks for all the advice, my mum is here now so I'm doing much better. Saw the doctor yesterday and apparently my cervix has softened so baby will be here soon slightly earlier than expected, just focusing on that. I haven't heard from husband so I'm pretty relieved by that, I hope it stays this way so I can have a stress free birth before Im fully able to sort things out.

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notapizzaeater · 06/05/2017 10:09

I'd be heading back here as you know he's can't come to the uk.

user1493567361 · 06/05/2017 13:35

I will do but it's not feasible for me at the moment

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terrifictoddlers · 07/05/2017 10:56

Good luck with the birth. Hope all goes well. Good that your mum is there. Hope she can stay with you til you can return to uk. Smile

allzwell · 07/05/2017 11:07

Call the police in the country you are in. This man is dangerous!
You don't have to wonder if this is abuse!!
Don't beat yourself up about repeating the cycle!
The important thing is that you ending it once and for all now!

Misspilly88 · 07/05/2017 11:09

Got to the bit where he pulled your hair. Of course he is abusive.

OhWhatFuckeryIsThisNow · 07/05/2017 13:20

Call the police in the country you are in. This man is dangerous! allz op didn't say which country she is in, I think that is good advice in most countries, others are less proactive in domestic abuse and might even try to stop her leaving. But others might look dimly on his right to remain (which would be great)
Glad your mum is there op-hope birth and escape go well.

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