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'D'M treating my two DC differently - any advice?

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ThePurpleGirl · 16/04/2017 12:09

I am currently low contact with my DM (I posted about the reason for this before here). I have two DC, a DD who is 4 and a DS 7 months. We only communicate on whatsapp and only really as me facilitating messages between her and DD, e.g. a thank you message after DD's birthday.

Anyway, my current issue is this: a card arrived yesterday addressed to my DD. Inside was an Easter card for my DD, an envelope with DS's name on containing an Easter card in for DS, and a cheque made out to DD, with a note in DD's card saying the money was for her to treat herself to something. There was no cheque for DS. I'm so sad and angry on behalf of DS. My DM and I were still talking when he was born and I remember being in tears on the phone to her because so few people acknowledged his birth - we had dozens of cards for DD, and after two weeks only 7 cards for DS - she said it was "second child syndrome" but that yes it was very sad people did that, and now she does this!

We are already in the situation that she gave us a cheque for DD to start a savings account when she was born and has a standing order paying into that account monthly but hasn't sent a penny for DS. She didn't even meet DS until he was nearly three months old - she cancelled her visit the day after he was born (by planned c-section so plenty of notice) because her DP hurt his ankle Hmm.

What do I say? She'll be expecting a thank you message from DD. Would it be really bad of me to say something like "Thank you for DD's cheque - she's going to share it with DS so he isn't left out" or "Thank you for the cheque- I assume it's meant to be split between DD and DS"? Or do I just send a message from DD saying "Thanks for my Easter money love DD" and just not mention the lack of anything from DS? I really don't want to engage with her but equally I want her to realise how sad it is that she's treating DD and DS so differently Sad.

Any advice?

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Joysmum · 17/04/2017 10:29

If whatever you say will be wrong to her then say what's right for you for once!

AttilaTheMeerkat · 17/04/2017 11:17

"Attila - I was trying to avoid going no contact as it didn't feel fair to stop my DC having a relationship with their only grandparent. DS is young enough that he won't ever know the difference but how do I explain to DD (4) that she won't ever see Nana again?"

Narcissists tend to either over value or under value the relationship with their grandchildren. Look at how badly affected you have been and still are by your mother's mere presence in your lives.

Your mother is a narcissist who is simply repeating the same old dysfunctional relationship. The only difference now your children (and in turn you) who are in her firing line. Children benefit from having functionally healthy grandparents, your mother is clearly not an emotionally healthy individual to be at all around. Your mother is trying to buy your DDs affections with money; it is all loaded with obligation.

Your bringing new life into the world did not fundamentally change your abusive parent into a loving family member. But adult children of narcissists (ACONs), in this case you, seem to show a natural affinity for believing in this work of fiction. We have always wanted our parent to be loving to us, and now we want our parent to be a loving grandparent. What we want and what we end up with are two very different things. Where we usually get tripped up is our failure to recognize the adaptability of the narcissist to changing circumstances.

You are the parent here and as such your children are relying on your good judgment. You can assure your child that you are making a wise and loving decision for them as well as yourself. I am not going to script what you should say because you are the only one who knows your children, but you must convey that this isn't up for negotiation. This is not a decision that the child gets to make. Yes, children usually love their grandparents. Children are often quite indiscriminate in their love which is why they need parents to guide them. Not every person is safe to have around and this is a good time to teach that important life lesson. The more matter-of-fact you are, the more matter-of-fact your children will be. When we act hysterical, they will usually reflect our hysteria. If you act anxious, they will act anxious. If you appear unsure, they will push. Model the reaction and attitude you want your children to adopt.

If you have another set of grandparents in the picture then focus on them. It is rare that both sets of grandparents are nasty. Emphasize to your children how much we enjoy being around grandma and grandpa so-and-so (the decent and loving grandparents). Cultivate your children's relationship with the decent, loving grandparents. Teach your children to be grateful for the decent, loving grandparents. Gratitude is a highly effective antidote to loss. Focus them on what they have, not what they don't have. Model that attitude of gratitude.

You're older and therefore more experienced which is the point of being the parent. The child is dependent on your good sense and protective wisdom. You're smarter than your child; use that to your advantage (such as using the distraction method). You are the final authority. This is not a negotiable issue. Your child doesn't get to decide on this one because they lack the understanding, wisdom, experience and good sense that, hopefully, you have. So don't look like you're unsure or open to quibble. You'll undermine yourself if you look anything but firm and resolved on it. Use your advantages as parent to smooth the effects of the cut-off. Over time this will all quiet down. Kids tend to accept what is. It will happen more quickly if you follow the above advice.

Most of all, do not operate from a fearful mindset. Don't be afraid of your children's possible, or actual, reactions. Don't be afraid that you are depriving them of something important by cutting off a set of grandparents. You are only "depriving" them of bad things. Reassure yourself with that truth. Family is not everything. Blood is not binding. You are escaping the Mob Family. What should connect us is how we treat each other with love and respect. This is always a good lesson to teach our little ones. If any part of you is unsure of your decision then, for Pete's sake, don't show it. Your resoluteness will go a long way toward reassuring your children that you are acting in everyone's best interest. If your children know that you love them, they are going to feel reassured that this decision is also based in your love for them. They will find an added sense of security to know that you, as their parent, are willing to protect them even at the cost of your relationship with your own parent(s). Rather than being fearful, see the plentiful opportunities in this. You are protecting your children from someone whom you've experienced as being abusive; you are reassuring your children that you are in charge and are watchful for their best interests (creates deep sense of security); you can teach healthy family values which include that family doesn't get a pass for abusive behavior; you can strengthen and reinforce the healthy relationships in your extended family. Kids are less likely to feel like there is a void in their life if you fill it with good things.

Cutting off from your narcissist parent is a good thing. No need to act otherwise. Your children will sense it is a good thing by how you behave. Model how you want them to respond and it is likely they will imitate. Don't be afraid of their questions. Kids are amazingly resilient and well-equipped to handle truth. Parents are supposed to protect their progeny. If your child doesn't agree with how you go about that don't worry. They will often disagree with your decisions for their best interests. Nothing new there. It is your job as parent to make the tough decisions. If you know it is the right decision then proceed with confidence. Showing confidence is a quality of leadership. As a parent you are supposed to be a leader. Lead...and they will likely follow.

SeaEagleFeather · 17/04/2017 11:27

You've got a much bigger long term problem

One day your son is going to say "why does my sister have 1000's from Gran and I have nothing".

This si going to sow a lot of unhappiness becuase 1) your son is going to feel very left out and 2) your daughter might say, very understandably, "but it's my money!".

I actually think that you have to look long and hard at the dynicamics of the relationship between your mother and the children. If this sort of blatant favouritism is going on with money, what is happening with the more subtle sort of favouritism? There's a possibility of more attention to your daughter, generally nice, subtly less pleasant comments to your son that subtly but really affect his self-confidence.

not saying this is the case but I think you need to look at it very seriously.

I personally think that the best thing is to distance yourself and your children even further from her and to take a difficult step; to actually speak to your daughter about what is going on. That Granny is being very unfair. It's not a nice situation but with someone who plays favourites, the healthiest way is to face it head on I think. A step even further is for your daughter to write to her gran when she's older and make it plain that any money will be shared with her brother.

The longest term consideration is to make sure that this does not drive a wedge between your daughter and son, which seems to happen a lot with favouritism :/ That's why I think that facing it head on is best.

Aussiebean · 17/04/2017 12:46

You could say

Thanks for the card and cheque. Ds hasn't arrived yet, so I will put it aside until it does and give it to them together.

ThePurpleGirl · 17/04/2017 20:56

Thanks so much everyone, and a special thanks to Attila and SeaEagle for your thoughtful and thought-provoking answers. You've given me a lot to think about. My priority is my DC and I always thought I ought to maintain relations with my DM despite how much she'd hurt me for their sake, but maybe I've been thinking about it all wrong and I ought to be keeping her at arms length to protect them from being hurt too.

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ThePurpleGirl · 17/04/2017 20:58

Sorry that was appalling grammar. You get the gist!

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