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What Men Want (A bit about...)

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SuffolkGent01 · 11/04/2017 10:07

There are some women out there who genuinely wish they could be better wives or girlfriends, and I am writing this for those women who appreciate a bit of honesty about what men want - and yes, most of this does relate to sex. For those women who are open to hearing that, then I hope you find this helpful. For those ardent feminists, or man-hating Mumsnet guardians, who think this is a major human rights violation of some kind, then... sorry. (More on that below.).

Inevitably what I write will be generalisation, but as a guy in his 40s on his third marriage, having been around a bit, with a lot of male friends and colleagues also, and some experience counselling, I know this all applies to perhaps 90-95% of men. And If I say things about women, again it's a generalisation, so take it for what it is.

  1. Sex. Yes, married men would want sex much more regularly on the whole than they get (really, in my view, twice a week is pretty much the acceptable minimum for a couple under 60). But what truly depresses most married men, far more than the lack of regularity of sex, is actually that their wives simply show no interest in sex itself.

Any husband would take a woman who was sensual and enthusiastic and made a positive effort once every two weeks, then a woman who reluctantly rolls over to have missionary duty-sex once or twice a week. There is nothing more depressing, transparent, un-erotic and life-sapping than a woman doing duty-sex, and yet that is what almost all married men have to live with. What makes it worse, of course, is that this is not who most men dated or married to begin with, when so many women put on the show of being energetic sex bunnies.

But a woman who makes an effort, who does something unexpected, is a gem. So, ask yourself when you last actually thought about doing something new or different in the bedroom, when you last buy a sexy outfit or a toy, when did you last instigate a sexual act outside the bedroom (or, shock horror, the house)? If you ask yourself these questions regularly enough, you'll be well on the way to a happy husband.

  1. Lingerie. Men love women in nice lingerie, but for most married women it is purely functional and they have no interest in even wearing matching lingerie, let alone anything sexy, even at weekends or during a time spent together. This is an easy win.
  1. Presentation. This key principle is that men simply do not want to hear about women's health issues, or anything that a lady should not be talking about. There are millions of women in this country, but very very few ladies who understand the restraint that involves. This is really a function of good manners and etiquette as much as anything. So, men don't want to hear about anything to do with your private parts, body hair, etc. They don't want to see you adopting any un-lady like habits during marriage; breaking wind, burping, etc. just say to the world you have given up and frankly don't give a damn any more about being either lady like or attractive to your husband. Same goes for doing any body maintenance in front of your husband. All those things should be done, if they have to, in private, away from your husband's eyes and ears (not even leaving a razor out in the bathroom). If you want a happy man, you should focus on presenting yourself as something he desires. Body hair - anywhere other than the top of your head, eyebrows and (these days) a very moderate amount below the bikini line, is totally unacceptable. Men don't want to touch it, see it or hear about it. There are plenty of solutions, including having laser treatment (I don't know why this isn't something every woman does). A hairy arm, top lip, leg, side burn, or whatever else is a truly awful thing.

It is partly for this reason that some English men do like East Asian women, because they are generally more effeminate and also are naturally hairless in most areas. Anyway, I digress.

  1. Chat. Partly covered in 3 above, but one specific other area that men find a turn-off is when women speak in juvenile terms about body parts, particularly referring in giggling tones to someone's "willy" or "bum", for example, is an immediate signal and turn-off. So too is women speaking in clinical terms, like "penis" or "vagina". For men, private parts are, believe it or not, primarily sexual, and adult women who want to engage with their husbands should engage in more "adult" usage if they want to connect. It goes back to point 1, about men wishing their wives shared a more sensual / sexual mindset. This can help.
  1. Porn. I really could not believe my ears when I heard a couple of my friends say that their wives did not approve of them watching porn. And, then I have read threads on here of wives coming to the "community" to panic about what to do about their husband (sorry, "DH".... that's another posting altogether, god help us) watching a bit of kinky porn now and again and whether it's "acceptable" or not. Firstly, to state the blindingly obvious, it's not a question of whether a wife should allow, approve or tolerate her husband watching porn, or watching sport, or watching UFC or watching whatever on earth he wants to watch, if it's legal. He's an adult, a separate person, and that's the end of it. But much more relevant to this post about making your guy happy, it again links back to 1, and tells your husband you have no idea about his needs or wants and frankly no care, and that you are prudish, which is the opposite of what he wishes you were. Sorry, but that's the truth.

I appreciate porn is not many women's cup of tea. Of course, a woman who DOES like porn, either alone or together with her husband, is a great find. But even if you don't, if your focus is on him being happy, then just embrace it as much as you can. Remember, your husband gets no immediate pleasure from you using a sex toy, but can you imagine if he objected to you doing it? That would, of course, be ridiculous and out of order. Much better for him to participate, if his goal is to make you happy, and the reverse is the same. So, next time you think of ticking off your husband - who, by the way DOES watch porn REGULARLY, whatever he says - why not do something spontaneous, sexual and ground-breaking, whatever that may be (be creative with it).

Again, to those women who are interested in what men want, this is a little set of tips to help you on your way to making your man happier. It may not all be immediately achievable, but that's okay, it's primarily an explanation, nothing more, so you can better relate and adjust if you want to.

And, again, for those women who see this as the ultimate display of sexism blah blah, and are reaching for the pitch-forks or furiously typing a response about why men don't understand they are too tired for X, too busy for Y, and would do these things if only their husbands did A, B and C, and unrealistic expectations of women, etc. etc., then you really missed the point.

Bye Bye!
Peter

OP posts:
Composteleana · 11/04/2017 22:48

I'd love to have groundbreaking sex with DP in or outside the bedroom at least twice a week but the fucker doesn't put out that much. He also burps loudly and leaves his razor on display.

Perhaps I should leave him for someone more effeminate and naturally hairless?

garmsfresh · 11/04/2017 23:04

Peter your a prick I bet also you leave " used" tissues all about the place and probably skiddy off white pants .😂

Sallystyle · 11/04/2017 23:10

😂😂😂😂

I gave this to my husband to read. Oh we had a great laugh.. While he was rubbing my legs which happen to have hair on 😱

ginandbearit · 11/04/2017 23:20

Well I'm a man and Peter this was such tedious ,self-important , long winded pompous drivel and could be a perfect feminist satire. You sir , are an arse .

emilybrontescorset · 11/04/2017 23:26

You need to learn how to make your partner orgasm.

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ginandbearit · 11/04/2017 23:37

Do you think he was quite the chap back in the seventies or eighties, when a filly knew the rules and her place ... on her back on the waterbed , nudge nudge . I bet you wear a cravat ....

Shedmicehugh · 11/04/2017 23:52

Ginandbearit are you just looking for a date!!? Taking advantage of the Op's misfortune Smile

Destinysdaughter · 11/04/2017 23:53

This is one of the few threads where a poster saying 'I'm a man' is actually welcome as it shows they're not all chauvinistic arses like Peter!

RubyBluesey · 12/04/2017 00:00

Pete.... you sound like my perfect man, will you marry me??!

RebelRogue · 12/04/2017 00:06

Shit just realised OH must be a woman then :/

gettinfedduppathis · 12/04/2017 00:26

Awww Peter... women really don't like having sex with you, do they?

Is it because you're a twat?

HTH

Grin Grin

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 12/04/2017 00:42

Grin ah this wasn't what I was expecting to find here

Made me laugh though

Ledkr · 12/04/2017 00:57
Charlie97 · 12/04/2017 07:21

Some of the comments on this thread are shocking!

It's like you don't appreciate (three times married) Peter has spent a fair amount of time ensuring us frigid, scruffy, childish, slovenly women how to up our game.

If only his two other wives had just gone that extra mile....they'd be living in complete heaven now.

So, come on ladies lets all print this out and read it daily. Display it somewhere it can. E easily seen to remind us.

Thank you Peter for taking time out of your day to set me straight, I'm only hoping it's not too late for my own relationship. I've realised that only yesterday I'd worn non matching undies. I'd also asked OH to take his willy off my bum when he insisted in joining me in the shower, whilst I was shaving my legs.

Peter, any idea how I try to stop the rot setting now the above has happened?

exWifebeginsat40 · 12/04/2017 08:25

genuinely a bit scared that this is my ex husband. except, he wore the lingerie in our relationship.

you'll note that he is my EX husband.

godspeed, Peter Perfect. carry on sailing the stormy seas of feminism in your bitchin' tricked-out rowing boat.

YogaAndRum · 12/04/2017 08:28

What women want: to divorce Peter

BeyondUser24601 · 12/04/2017 08:34

66% success rate so far Grin

shovetheholly · 12/04/2017 08:36

We need to start a campaign.

MRS PETER THE THIRD! ARE YOU OUT THERE? WE ARE LEGION AND WE WILL SAVE YOU FROM THIS TERRIBLE FATE. LET US KNOW WHERE YOU ARE AND WE WILL SEND THE HELICOPTER.

#FREEMRSPETER

LostSight · 12/04/2017 09:08

Or is that "penisi"? (I'm a lady, i don't know is these things).

Penes can be used, or penises. Fortunately I'm not a lady.

SassynSane · 12/04/2017 09:17

#FREEMRSPETER 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 LMFAO

pompodd · 12/04/2017 10:39

I'm a man. Christ, I'm called Peter too!

OP - admit it, this sort of chat goes down well when you're discussing "fillies" at the Rotary Club dinners, doesn't it? Keep it there, pal.

Arsewipe.

#NotInMy(Peter)Name

SassynSane · 12/04/2017 10:54

Ah jeez...stop it with these #... I am PMSL again #Ihavewetnailsandcan'tdoanythingaboutit! 😂😂😂

MyGastIsFlabbered · 12/04/2017 11:16

Has Peter ever returned or did he just light the touchpaper and retire to a safe distance?

Shedmicehugh · 12/04/2017 11:19

Peter has been back, in various forms, to poke the fire!