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Husband caught having an emotional affair

45 replies

secretbiscuiteater · 30/03/2017 11:57

Really am looking for some advise of others who have been in the same situation.

I recently found out that my husband has been texting a work colleague and that they have grown close. I’m told that noting sexual has happened, but I’ve seen the texts (some) and they’re all along the lines of ‘ can’t stop thinking about you’ etc… which for me is the worst kind of betrayal. Whilst doing things for mothers day he has been texting and thinking about someone else, and the texts have been reciprocated. I’ve confronted him and his initial reaction was to get his phone back off me, he was angry, seemingly not upset by my reaction (which was of disbelief, tears, me asking him to reassure me that I was wrong.)

I’m just so confused. He says that he loves me and the family and that he wants us to work on things (counselling etc.) I have said the same and that he needs to accept that I’m going to have lots of questions and emotions, however he doesn’t seem to be able to handle this in reality. He is of the opinion that he has said he’s sorry and that he loves me and ‘what more do I want?’ I’ve told him that I don’t feel as if he means what he says – his actions (to me) are speaking louder than his words. I don’t understand why he isn’t being proactive in sorting out counselling, why he no longer texts me from work just to ask if I’m ok (he knows that I am in bits), why when I’ve asked him about getting another job he hasn’t even started looking at other options, the dynamic feels wrong, it’s as if I’m waiting for him to tell when (or have the guts to tell me) that he doesn’t want me, and of course all this is worsened by the fact that I have no trust at the moment. I’ve been very clear, told him how much I love him, but I have said that if he doesn’t love me (he assures me the relationship with his work colleague is over and he doesn’t and has never wanted to be with her), that he should just say so. I’ve asked him why he hasn’t done any of the things above, his response is that he is confused too, and that everything is so recent, and that he needs a break from talking about ‘the situation’. This makes me rage inside (and outwardly) as to me it seems as if he just doesn’t care at all. I am also scared of pushing him too much but do feel that I deserve more from him.

I have admitted to him that even prior to me finding out about the relationship that we needed help, we’ve been very up and down, and typically lost ‘us’ – dealing with the strains of work, family life and his very difficult ex wife.

I feel as if I’m being toyed with – it’s like I don’t know him, I’m scared, I just want some reassurance, and answers and I’m not getting either.

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SandyY2K · 30/03/2017 23:30

People often look through phones when they are suspicious. If you have strong suspicions and want proof, it's a sensible thing to do.

I do wonder when some people say that "just ask if he or she is cheating"
Like they'll come out and tell you they are.

Whether it's phone snooping or hidden recorders or hiring a P. I... people do what is necessary to get the truth.

PaterPower · 31/03/2017 14:50

"Whether it's phone snooping or hidden recorders or hiring a P. I... people do what is necessary to get the truth."

So that's the justification is it? Never mind that the recorders or any other electronic snooping would be illegal, where do you draw the line?

One person's "getting to the truth" is another's EA / stalking. We all have a reasonable expectation of privacy - you don't have any "right" to breach that because you're suspicious (a suspicion, after all, which may not be justified) of a partner.

Jaysis · 31/03/2017 15:16

Maybe the morality of going through a partner's phone could take place on another thread?

Perhaps on one where a woman's life and marriage aren't imploding for her, and keep this one for support and advice for her.

rumred · 31/03/2017 15:20

fritzdonovan I'm with you

Adora10 · 31/03/2017 15:21

It's not confusing; he's actively pursuing a sexual relationship with this work colleague (if it hasn't happened already); he's only bothered that you have caught him and now that you have he actually couldn't give a shiny shit as going by his behaviour he is continuing to take the actual piss out of you; instead of telling him the obvious (which he knows already), tell him you need space; so, either he goes or you do cos you can't stay together and pretend all is normal when it clearly is not.

He needs a consequence OP; he needs to feel like he might lose what he thinks right now is not that great; sounds like he wants to carry on pursing the OW whilst having you as his convenience at home.

Fuck that, stop asking him anything anymore and start doing what is best for you and right now that's to get his smarmy unrepentant face out of your eye view.

Get angry OP; he's treating you appallingly.

user1479305498 · 31/03/2017 15:48

Adora is right. As I said before, get angry now--dont be like me and leave it in the background for years (even if it clearly stops) and then find further stuff and still be sizzling.

Lotsofponies · 31/03/2017 16:57

I think people often don't value what they have. Tell him you are not sure you if you want to continue in a relationship, tell him he has not convinced you that he is sorry and remorseful, as others have said, consequences, ask him to move out.

Take the power away from him. This is your decison too. If he loves you and is truly sorry he will do every thing he can to win you and his family back. If he doesn't, then you are better off without him.

This is such a hard time, many of us have gone through it, and whilst you might not belive it now, it will get better. Keep posting, there is always someone here to listen and offer you support.

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Zaphodsotherhead · 14/05/2017 08:41

OP, the worst has happened. You've found out. He feels stupid and guilty and that has tarnished the nice little buzz he was getting, so he needs to make you stop talking about it. He wants to compartmentalise it.
But for you, it's broken. Things will never be the same. THAT is what gives you the power, you are no longer blindly in love with him. He is stupid and self deluding like all other men.
So now is the time to put your foot down. TELL him what he has to do. If he doesn't - get him out. Just don't let him shut you up back in the box labelled 'Wife-take for granted'.

dingodon · 14/05/2017 09:50

Kick him out and give him the reality check of a bedsit and seeing his kids on a part time basis. It's time to get tough.

secretbiscuiteater · 15/05/2017 10:25

So I'm back.

Thanks for all of the advise. I'm feeling bereft. I'm a mess.

We attended counselling and it was going well, really getting to the root of issues with him showing genuine remorse. However the elephant in the room was the fact that we didn't talk about him changing jobs, just carried on regardless in our new Happy bubble. However 2 weeks ago I 'lost it' over something minor and lots of crap and anger came flowing out of my mouth- all of it untrue. I nastily threatened to leave him - be did nothing and went to work which made
Me even more angry.

So fast forward two weeks, we've talked, attended counselling but he now 'doesn't know' what he wants, is numb and confused. ( to be honest I have 'lost it') at time before. Counsellor has suggested that to us that if he doesn't know not to make a decision. So I'm waiting, feeling sick, feeling lonely ( no affection from him) totally scared for the future. As advised I'm sitting it out trying not to pressure him and I just want him and our family.

Please, be kind, im broken, have no family near. Just need hugs and hand holding x

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MrsMozart · 15/05/2017 11:40

Hugs and hand holds lass, as many and for as long as you need them xx

magoria · 15/05/2017 13:09

I would suggest different to your counsellor.

If he doesn't know what he wants you make the decision to take yourself as an option away from him.

It will hurt like fuck but a clean break and you can grieve and then slowly start to heal.

Why the hell should you live in a nasty painful limbo for weeks/months while he angsts about is it you or OW.

Make that decision. It may shock him into realising what he is throwing away. Or he will skip into the sunset with OW.

At least you will know.

secretbiscuiteater · 15/05/2017 13:19

Thank you both.

You'll all think that I'm blinded. I genuinely believe that there's no longer anything going on with the OW.

He's been asked by counsellor and I believe him.

Not trying to drip feed, but since we've been together we've had a lifetime of stress with his ex, court etc... I think he's ran out of fight and is tired... think perhaps he needs help / someone to talk to.

I hate waiting though ...

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MyheartbelongstoG · 15/05/2017 13:57

Op in the nicest way stop being a mug!

Olderwiser17 · 15/05/2017 16:31

Please look after yourself, and stand up for yourself. Be clear in your communication with him and stand tall knowing if you are reasonable, then that's good enough. You committed to each other when you got together and if one has changed their mind, then its not too much for the other to have the truth. Do not let fear allow others to take advantage of you. If you feel it is appropriate to look at this phone, ask him and tell him why. After this type of thing it is perfectly reasonable to be able to look at his phone, laptop etc etc. He won't respect you if you back off anyway. You are worthwhile and you deserve to be respected and treated reasonably. 100%. Even if you had tough times and it wasn't just down to him, you still have the right for respect and honesty. Be kind to yourself xx

foxyloxy78 · 15/05/2017 21:04

Why did your husband split from his ex? Was there any cheating involved?

Californiagal · 26/04/2018 17:24

Dear Secret biscuit eater, Having just been through this with my husband, (and it's finally over after one year and he's back to his good old self), the moment I had the AHA! moment was when I thought about what it would be like if the shoe was on the other foot. If he asked me to stop doing something he didn't like and I refused to stop, I expect he would say he would not put up with it for another second. So, very calmly (non-emotionally) I said, "I have asked you for a year to stop doing something that is causing me great pain. You refuse. If it were me doing somethingyou would insist I stop! Why must I be the one to accept that you want to have a another woman as your best friend? It's not acceptable to me, and I'm not putting up with this BS anymore!" Guess what? He said, "So I guess I'll just never speak to her again!" (angrily). And because that is what I TRULY want (forget about "being nice" or "fairness"ugh stuff drilled in your head), I said, with NO GUILT, "Yes, that works for me". Guess what? Self-respect is more attractive than sobbing and crying and being a doormat. He was angry after all that, so the next day, I charged back in and said "If you're going to be angry because you can't have another woman as your best friend, that doesn't work for me either!" Like a switch, he became the good guy I married. His whole predicament is based on not having proper boundaries!!! No one sets out to have an emotional affair, but they happen because of lack of boundaries. Give yourself a boundary--"My husband has to put me first or I shall make other arrangements". Good luck!

Adora10 · 26/04/2018 17:31

can’t stop thinking about you’ etc

Sorry OP, for me this translates to a sexual relationship.

Sorry again but you really need to tell him to GTF; your misery is caused by him first having an affair and second by showing you he's not really invested in your relationship.

Having said that, he needs a good sharp shock from you; he probably is quite smug in the fact that he got away with it and you are there, begging him for some attention; I honestly don't know how you can live like this; please separate, tell him it's temporary; you will be amazed at how the stress lifts from you, you need to be kind to you, and honestly, forget him for a bit, he's the main cause of your misery.

DaphneduWarrior · 26/04/2018 17:44

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