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Demanding, moody unfair(?) boyfriend

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chakka12345 · 28/03/2017 15:45

New to mumsnet. Not even sure if I'm in the right place, so please bear with me. Sorry for the long post.....

I am 25 and have been with my boyfriend (also 25) for almost 3 years now. I do love him and up until recently was still very much set on marrying this man and spending the rest of my life with him, but I am seriously beginning to consider my future with him as life is so miserable and does not seem to be getting any better for either of us.

We have emotionally been through an awful lot together and our relationship has already been tested past what some marriages have to deal with. Job losses, relocations, serious financial issues, depression and anxiety but one of the worst is my parents going through an ugly divorce whilst my BF was still in business with my dad. And then that business catastrophically failing (due to my fathers lies). A show of my boyfriends character is that he somehow still somehow manages to 'get along' with my Dad after all this, yet I am no longer speaking to my father anymore. So he is a good guy who wants like to be easy and happy deep down, but his behaviour and attitude towards me in our home is spiralling by the day.

In short, my BF is depressed and has been since he lost his dream job 2 years ago. I have tried supporting him in all the ways he asks, but it is never enough. I have tried over and over and over to get him to go to the doctors, therapy or other treatments and he outright refuses to go and insists with my love he can deal with it on his own. I cook, clean, am a supporting ear when he's down (which is literally all the time), I lie with him, hold him tight, make him feel safe and try to organise life so that he is always involved and not sitting around stewing on his own. But whenever my actions don't 'fix' things or make him feel better, the negative feeling around then entirely becomes my fault and nothing to do with the original problem anymore. He blames, points the finger and ignores his part in arguments. He is so insecure, lost and needs constant validation but at the same time has an opinion on everyone else choices and why they are wrong (and why his way would be right).

He has been through several jobs in the time we have been together and aside from the one mentioned previously, has never been happy or even remotely satisfied in any of them. Everyone does it wrong or doesn't understand or doesn't value or appreciate him. He ignores the fact that his time keeping is appalling - he is consistently later for any and everything and his manner can come across as either totally unreadable or standoffish and know-it-all. Even I, the woman who knows him best and his true intentions can see he off-puts people with his directness sometimes.

I am starting to feel like I am going insane with listening to him whine about tiny, inconsequential issues about his job for hours on end every night. He whinges that the girl who is his boss isn't qualified, sits there and does no work all day and expects him to produce. He goes on about how there is no structure in his department. He does on about how the free gourmet coffee they have on tap 'isn't actually gourmet'. We all support and listen to our partners to do with work issues, but the level of detail he gives every single night over such small issues makes me want to smash my own head against a wall. He is moody, miserable, negative and glass half full about everything in life and his constant outpouring of this onto me is seriously starting to affect me.

I have tried explaining this to him, numerous times and in numerous way but it always comes back that I am not being supportive enough and thats the reason that he/we still have issues. I have tried suggesting that we limit work talk to half an hour when we get in and then discuss other things. He agreed to this to only then totally break it in within the half hour and when I pointed this out he responded by mooching around in a slump, basically making the whole environment feel awkward to be able to continue talking about anything at all, job or otherwise. Unfortunately, he also get very angry and at times scares me when I react in a way he doesn't like or doesn't tend to his needs. Even something as small as he's rude to me and I call him out on his behaviour can cause horrible awful downward spirals that last for days, sometimes weeks.

As I think most of his stress stems from work issues, I try helping him find new roles to apply for or new companies to approach. But he never actually does anything about them unless I repeatedly ask him to, and then the problem becomes that I am 'nagging' instead of the original issue of him wanting a new job. I have tried suggesting he set up his own business as this has always been a want and passion of his (thinking he may be happier being his own boss). In the past, I've said how my wage could support the two of us and he wanted to go ahead and do this then I would 100% support him. He tells me he doesn't know what he's doing yet and needs more time to learn - which entirely contradicts his 'I know everything better than everyone else' attitude and confuses me further- but I dare not call him out on it in fear of another huge argument happening over a simple question.

This has been going on for a very long time now, and the constant pressure of it all is getting to me. It wasn't so bad until I lost my job last week. Before then, although my job was far higher pressure than his, I could hold it all together. But now, I am personally going through being unemployed for the first time in 5 years and I am really struggling myself to stay strong and resilient. I think I'd be ok and be coping a lot better if my BF wasn't still expecting me to be his total rock and emotional support.

His attitude to me losing me job on the day was amazing and I thought he might finally cut me some slack and realise I'm weak right now and need some love and support myself. But since the day of me losing my job, he hasn't even asked me how I'm feeling never mind tried to perk me up or make me feel any better. In fact, he has continued to tell me that my efforts to support him are not good enough and has started threatening walking out and that I will lose him if I don't show him more love.

I fell in love with a happy, go getting, enthusiastic, warm, funny and thoughtful man. Now I do not recognise him and no matter what I try, I can never seem to do anything right or big enough to make a difference. I know no one is perfect, and there are definitely things I haven't handled the best way, but 90% of the time that is due to the anxiety and stress that my 'support' is not adequate and fear of what will happen next. I am currently on beta blockers for my anxiety, but sometimes our arguments send me over the edge into full scale, very dramatic panic attacks. More recently, I have actually been going unintentionally further, getting embarrassingly hysterical and screaming. It is only at this point he drops his guard, calms down himself and realises how upset I am and tends to me. The moment my breathing calms down, he is straight back into his making his points again.

If I'm honest I feel like I am stuck in a depressing, 25 year old marriage (we are not married) and starting to feel like I would be better off not being here anymore. But I know for a fact I love him to pieces and would be absolutely heartbroken if we broke up. He is my soulmate. And I know that if he was to really be honest and open up he'd be appalled and ashamed of his behaviour too. He's just so focussed on his own negativity and I don't know what to do anymore.

There has to be more to life than this.

OP posts:
hellsbellsmelons · 28/03/2017 16:59

Are you qualified to deal with people with MH problems?
A trained therapist maybe?
Counsellor?
NO!!!!
OK then. You cannot fix him.
He needs to understand this.
He needs professional help.
If he won't go and get it then I would be out of there.
Sorry, but if he won't help himself he will never get better.
You cannot be his emotional crutch forever, it will destroy you!!!!

Dozer · 28/03/2017 17:01

Marriage and DC with this man would indeed be a bad plan.

You had under a year of being happy with him, and 2 years of him not seeking help for his problems and leaning on you.

Look up codependency. He seems to want this.

It's fine not to want to stay in a relationship with someone you think is a good person (eg him staying in touch with your dad).

Moregilmoregirls · 28/03/2017 17:02

You are 25, you should be having fun not stuck in this awful draining relationship, he's sucking the life out of you and will continue to do so as long as you let him. STOP NOW AND GET OUT. You have your whole life ahead of you don't waste it on this miserable man. He needs professional help. You are not responsible for his happiness but you are responsible for your own.

PsychedelicSheep · 28/03/2017 20:11

'OP, you're relationship is codependency personified'

This, with bells on. Honestly, you're not a good fit for each other, you both sound miserable. You're in a really unhelpful and unhealthy pattern here, and i wonder if it's keeping him as stuck as it is you? You're really doing him zero favours allowing to get away with this appalling behaviour, and you don't deserve to be treated this way. Seriously, move on.

Marchate · 28/03/2017 20:33

Buy or download "Why Does He Do That" (Lundy Bancroft). You will read a description of your boyfriend, and some advice as to avoiding this type in future

In the meantime, separate as soon as possible

Hermonie2016 · 28/03/2017 21:19

You are in an unhealthy relationship which cannot be fixed by you alone.Your love won't fix it.

Take it from us women who are older, you can have a much better relationship.You don't owe this man anything.You will regret staying.

whirlygirly · 28/03/2017 21:24

This gives me chills. Run for the hills. Expect that if you start detaching he will sense it and start being lovely and supportive, please don't fall for it. You're just delaying your future happiness.

RunRabbitRunRabbit · 28/03/2017 21:33

You are in love with the man you wish he was, the man he seemed to be at first.

The man you actually have is a selfish cunt who would rather destroy you than go to therapy.

Still, he doesn't actually need therapy does he? The world revolves around him, you are his slave, he doesn't have to lift a finger, he doesn't have to ever give a thought to your needs, he can shout and sulk and spit but you will soothe him. He's like a toddler.

Get rid and find yourself a grown up man.

Google codependency, your post is drenched in it.

I'm not surprised he and your DF get along. Codependency is usually trained into you by bad bad selfish bullies of parents.

Dozer · 28/03/2017 21:39

Which Lundy Bancroft type is he, Mr Sensitive?

RunRabbitRunRabbit · 28/03/2017 21:43

How many months was he nice for before he lost the first of many jobs? Actually, I bet he was a whiney fucker before he lost that job. How long did it take him to start being negative and demanding? How many months has he been a shit since then?

What do your mates say? Maybe you have no mates because you going out triggers his anxiety that you might notice he is a twat?

Questioningeverything · 28/03/2017 21:47

My first ltb. Please. He's sucking the life out of you. You're becoming a shell of a person because you're taking all of his crap and it's weighing you down. Shouldn't relationships be about mutual respect and love??
Yeah, I'm sure telling him he's offloading too much is a bummer for him. Maybe he needs to talk to friends or write it in an email then send it to himself to get it all out. But I suspect he's got into this habit of you being his counsellor and how very dare you tell him you're done in that role and oh that you need his support right now!

You're young. You're lovely, anyone can see that. He's frightening you and emotionally abusing you. Please, you can do so much better

LapCatLicker · 28/03/2017 21:47

Dump him. Then go out and have some fun! You're young and have bags of time to keep looking for a nice man. One thing I've learned of that there is no such thing as a soulmate. There are many good, loving, fun and mature men out there and you just have to know you're worth waiting for.

Your bloke sounds like such a victim. No-one can help him but himself and you are doing him a favour by dumping him and making him see that.

BlueFolly · 28/03/2017 21:54

I would dump him on the grounds that the support you are able to give is clearly not the support he needs. No blame on either side.

Dozer · 28/03/2017 23:27

"our relationship has already been tested past what some marriages have to deal with. Job losses, relocations, serious financial issues, depression and anxiety but one of the worst is my parents going through an ugly divorce whilst my BF was still in business with my dad. And then that business catastrophically failing (due to my fathers lies)."

Of those issues, which were his, and which yours? I suspect far more were his issues, and that his problems were exacerbated by his health (if he does indeed have MH issues) and decisions.

Did you meet your bf through his work for your father, or did he go to work there after losing his job? If the latter, it was an odd decision on his part to work for a gf's father. And you're not at fault for what happened as a result of your bf's decision.

RunRabbitRunRabbit · 28/03/2017 23:43

You are correct. There is more to life than this.

SparklyMagpie · 28/03/2017 23:57

There's not much to say other than, walk away OP, you have no ties

ohfourfoxache · 29/03/2017 00:07

Run fast and run far. This "man" is a cunt

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