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Go fuck yourself

42 replies

DottyRotty · 19/03/2017 22:29

This is what my husband just said to my 11 year old dd whilst loading his middle finger up.
Apparently she was being disrespectful.
I am so shocked and hurt.
But I am over reacting

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thenightsky · 19/03/2017 23:04

He's horrible to you.

And now it is escalating.

Sad
Someone22 · 19/03/2017 23:04

Women's Aid might be able to help.

FancyPantsDelacroixTheFirst · 19/03/2017 23:06

Can you phone Women's Aid

Also Entitled to can tell you what benefits you can get if you are in the UK

IvyLeagueUnderTheSea · 19/03/2017 23:08

Please get him to leave now.
There will always be a reason why he can't, birthday come up, GCSEs, holiday booked etc. Bite the bullet and kick him out. You know that it is what you want really.

FancyPantsDelacroixTheFirst · 19/03/2017 23:10

Also, if you think he might check where you have been online the Women's aid site has a page about covering your tracks online.

notapizzaeater · 19/03/2017 23:14

Wow, you need to get out as soon as you can.

Italiangreyhound · 19/03/2017 23:14

You deserve to be happy

This is the kind of thing I say to anyone on Mumsent who says this type of thing.

You get one life and you decide how it is going to go. You are not his property and you don’t have to stay with him. If he treats you badly, even if he appears to be nice to the kids most of the time, he is not a good influence on them.

Is he violent, are you in danger? Is he violent to the children?

Does he use coercive control over you, emotionally, physically, sexually, financially?

Please speak to Women’s Aid when it is safe to do so.

www.womensaid.org.uk/

0808 2000 247

Freephone 24 hr National Domestic Violence Helpline Run in partnership between Women’s Aid & Refuge.

*COVER your tracks, do not leave links on websites, devices, etc or notes about or anything on online history that he can find and use against you.

When you speak to women’s aid decide what is best to do, how to leave, where to go.

Let the solicitors sort out afterwards who gets what. If there is a home, how it will be slit etc.

I know one woman who stayed with her controlling ex for years living separate lives under the same roof, she was waiting for him to go, But he made it clear, she could leave but the children stayed and he was not going. After years of this she finally packed up all her stuff and her kids stuff and moved out. She is now divorced and in a new relationship with a man who she loves.

Please do not waste any more time than you need to with this man.

The party aspect is something you can talk to women’s aid about. Whether to go now or whatever. The party can be moved to a new location or whatever or postponed if you are in danger.

But please get professional advice how to do this because when you leave you are in danger and you need to do it safely.

Who can help you, family, friends? Your son’s schooling may be affected slightly short term but if you are in danger then long term he is also at risk.

notapizzaeater · 19/03/2017 23:15

Have you a friend you can talk to ? Family ? Anywhere you can go ?

TheresABluebirdOnMyShoulder · 19/03/2017 23:15

When I was 15 my dad shoved his face an inch away from mine and bellowed "fuck off" at me. It will stay with me until the day I die. You ARE NOT overreacting.

Obviously it goes without saying that this was not the only abusive behaviour from my father and it wasn't the only abusive behaviour that my mother failed to protect me from. Do you think it will be the only abuse that your husband ever subjects his children to? Your husband is not a good dad. Good dads do not tell their 11 year old daughters to go fuck themselves. And if for some absolutely bizarre reason, like they fall and bump their heads, they do tell their daughter to go fuck herself, a good dad would be devastated and mortified and would not forgive himself. He would not tell his wife that she was overreacting when she was upset about it.

kittybiscuits · 19/03/2017 23:15

Even if he was never vile to your children again, you should leave him. One of the most important things your DCs need to learn from you is how to take decisive action when treated with extreme disrespect. He is a cunt. Please work through the practical things and get rid of him.

DottyRotty · 19/03/2017 23:18

Thank you for replying. I am still in shock. He thinks that by saying sorry then that is ok.
His dad is a wife beating woman hater. I thought he was different.
I don't know what to do.
I hate him.
I hate him so much. But I am trapped

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GardenGeek · 19/03/2017 23:19

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1horatio · 19/03/2017 23:19

YANBU.

This is actually what yo need to know. So, I'll just copy paste a previous comment from Italian:

You deserve to be happy

This is the kind of thing I say to anyone on Mumsent who says this type of thing

You get one life and you decide how it is going to go. You are not his property and you don’t have to stay with him. If he treats you badly, even if he appears to be nice to the kids most of the time, he is not a good influence on them.

Is he violent, are you in danger? Is he violent to the children?

Does he use coercive control over you, emotionally, physically, sexually, financially?
Please speak to Women’s Aid when it is safe to do so.

Freephone 24 hr National Domestic Violence Helpline Run in partnership between Women’s Aid & Refuge.

COVER your tracks, do not leave links on websites, devices, etc or notes about or anything on online history that he can find and use against you.

When you speak to women’s aid decide what is best to do, how to leave, where to go.

the solicitors sort out afterwards who gets what. If there is a home, how it will be slit etc.

I know one woman who stayed with her controlling ex for years living separate lives under the same roof, she was waiting for him to go, But he made it clear, she could leave but the children stayed and he was not going. After years of this she finally packed up all her stuff and her kids stuff and moved out. She is now divorced and in a new relationship with a man who she loves.

Please do not waste any more time than you need to with this man.

party aspect is something you can talk to women’s aid about. Whether to go now or whatever. The party can be moved to a new location or whatever or postponed if you are in danger.

But please get professional advice how to do this because when you leave you are in danger and you need to do it safely.

Who can help you, family, friends? Your son’s schooling may be affected slightly short term but if you are in danger then long term he is also at risk.

tipsytrifle · 19/03/2017 23:21

This is only going to get worse and worse. In what ways does he abuse you - "disrespect" is kind of a blanket statement and I suspect it's way beyond tolerable. It has now spread to him abusing your dd verbally. Did you hear him apologise or has he just told you that he has?

It might be good to have a chat with dd and reassure her that you aren't going to overlook this. Though at this time I wouldn't mention anyone might be leaving. Are you ready in yourself to end this? How likely is he to leave?

You say he has been a good dad in the past - but the past is exactly that. Children live in the now. His abuse of you has been going on for awhile; enough to have you beaten down and resigned to it.

Whose name is the home in?

This is awful for you and has clearly torn your heart out. This really really is the time to start planning if you're even vaguely ready to think about it. Contact Women's Aid. Be persistent as they can be hard to get through to.

DottyRotty · 19/03/2017 23:26

Thank you everyone.
I am going to bed now.
I am or my children in physical danger. Will get a good night's sleep and see what to do in the morning.
I feel so sad buy I am grateful for your advice.
We are safe tonight.
Thanks for your support

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DottyRotty · 19/03/2017 23:27

Sorry for typos
We are safe

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Italiangreyhound · 20/03/2017 00:12

Glad you are safe. if you really are physically safe, and oly ou know that, can you wait until your dd's party, have the remaining time until then to get all your ducks in a row and then go.

The key things about going seem to be legal papers, passports, bank stuff, all the key things. Get advice from Woen's Aid what to take and what to do about any joint bank accountes etc.

Take personal stuff you love and need, e.g. photos, special kids cuddies. It's just he may be so angry you have gone he destroys things that he knows have meaning.

Re asking him to leave. IF you think it is safe to do so then of course you can try but can you get at least one or two strong friends round to be there when you tell him. Relatives, friends.

My friend left while her husband was at work.

Will there be any issues with your kids coming with you?

Staying in the family home has benefits and draw backs. My friend left her abusive husband last year. She had to flee with kids. He was not willing to let her have the home so she has had to rent while they decide what to do. He is so selfish. he could rent a place for a single an so cheaply but instead she must rent for herself and multiple kids because he will not do it! he has been abusive for years. She has put up with it and even feels bad for leaving him. He has ground her into the ground.

I do much hope she will stay away and I am pretty sure I know if she she were back in family home he would not stay away!

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