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Love or security

21 replies

sorryoldwoman · 19/03/2017 20:54

Would you choose love and struggling financially in older age or a friendship marriage with security?

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angelcakerocks · 19/03/2017 20:55

why does it have to be an either/or?

sorryoldwoman · 19/03/2017 21:09

Two men one I love and one I'm divorcing.

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TheNaze73 · 19/03/2017 21:26

I'd feel like a fraud with the latter

sorryoldwoman · 20/03/2017 00:20

Yes your right

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kel1493 · 20/03/2017 00:26

Love every single time. My dh and I have nothing, but we have each other and our son. Most important

HeddaGarbled · 20/03/2017 00:30

Well now, I think you are being rather simplistic.

Is this, I've been married for a while to a good guy but I really really really want to have sex with a new guy so I'm dressing it up as a love versus friendship/security scenario?

Alternatively, you could ditch the friendly rich guy for the lovely sexy new guy and earn your own money so that you don't struggle financially in your dotage.

JoJoSM2 · 20/03/2017 00:33

Both options sound rubbish. Or perhaps it's my high expectations lol

FritzDonovan · 20/03/2017 03:25

So you're in love with someone else while married... Does your OH know about the divorce yet, seeing as you seem unsure whether you should stay or go? Hmm

redstep · 20/03/2017 03:32

Hey it's difficult to say as both choices are pretty crap (I should know as tried both ways for extended periods of time) - if you stay for security once they are over the happiness of having you return to them you will get the moods, the resentment and the hurt that will come back and usually when you manage to reignite some loving feeling in your heart. If you go with love and poverty - love often goes crap after a while and then you're just left with poverty. Maybe be on your own for a bit?

sorryoldwoman · 20/03/2017 08:55

Thanks for the advice and redstep sure got it right.

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pinkopal · 20/03/2017 08:59

Love. Absolutely. Over anything.

SleepingTiger · 20/03/2017 09:02

Have you not already chosen?

mycatloveslego · 20/03/2017 09:15

The friendship marriage only works if you both only want a friendship marriage. If he still loves you, it could become difficult and it would be unfair to trap him when you could leave and he could have the chance of finding love with someone else.

Triskel · 20/03/2017 12:12

"It is not a lack of love, but a lack of friendship that makes unhappy marriages. "Friedrich Nietzsche

"The best friend is likely to acquire the best wife, because a good marriage is based on the talent for friendship." Also Nietzsche.

Below is his opinion on the hopelessness of a marriage based only upon love:

www.theatlantic.com/daily-dish/archive/2006/04/nietzsche-and-marriage/235592/

It depends what you think marriage is for. Actually, many philosophers would say trust is more important than love in marriage.

One of the main reasons carefully arranged marriages are successful and a good idea is that they are heavily contracted from the start. Expectations are quite clear. In addition the extended families are also contracted in.

Marriage is very complicated

GloucestershireGuy · 20/03/2017 12:16

It's not just about you, though, is it? It's about being fair to the other person. If you "settle" for the secure option, are they aware you don't love them?

xStefx · 20/03/2017 12:16

Love, you only have 1 life. Plus you would never be able to forget about the man you love if you tried to make it work with the other man

Triskel · 20/03/2017 12:22

But what is love? How do you define it? How does it change over time?

And as they say where I'm from : "When hardship comes in through the door, love flies out of the window"

Keepithidden · 20/03/2017 15:33

Love to start off with, then security if there are DCs, then when that job is finished love again. Not all with the same partner...

sorryoldwoman · 20/03/2017 19:17

If I settle for security I go back to how it was and no worries as to how to pay for my medical needs. I have a ongoing condition that requires expensive medication. It looks like I'll settle. At least I've found out how loving someone totally feels. So I have a broken heart. I'll live.

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SandyY2K · 21/03/2017 00:53

I'd say both. I wouldn't go for love without security and vice versa.

highinthesky · 21/03/2017 01:06

Settling might sort out your healthcare needs but it's not at all fair on the mug footing the bill.

As for this "love" - you'll get over it.

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