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Rap and son's attitude

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MixDoDo · 01/02/2017 20:38

I have considered putting this in AIBU. But then I thought I might be ridiculed, and I'm not sure that it is funny Hmm.

I have a 13 year old teenage son who (genuinely) loves rap or grime or whatever - music in that vein anyway.

Recently, his way of speaking from normal to just "dumbdown" street has gone down to a new level. e.g."free" instead of "three", the t consonant has all but disappeared, and so on.

I think one strong influence here is the way they speak in rap/grime/whatever - all dumbed down. I think this is what my son has been copying in everyday speech, though he vehemently denies it.

(On another issue with rap is the violence and negativity and hatred but my brain honesly can't compute that as well at the moment).

I know it sounds trivial, but its all beginning to seriously grate. The whole Kevin teenage thing wiv like downtown Peckham rambling voiceover 'fing going on.

I feel a bit embarrassed posting this, but anyway any words of wisdom please?

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MountainGoat5 · 12/01/2019 09:53

Oh god I say "wiv" "Fing" "sumfin" "den" instead of "then" ConfusedGrin it comes naturally & I grew up in a nice area of Surrey

JuniperTills · 12/01/2019 10:08

I am the same as @MountgainGoat5, I grew up in a working-class family in a Home County but London slang was common in the area and it caught on during my adolescence. I'm in my 20s now & I still have a glottal stop, use sentences like "I can't be arsed to go to the shop, dat's long". I wouldn't say I emphasise the "d" sound in "dis/dat/dem" it's quite muted, but definitely not a "th"!

I have a "proper" voice (how I spoke before adolescence) that I use on the phone or with strangers, but it's not my "real" voice, it doesn't feel natural and sounds stilted, like I'm trying to be posh. My uncle always used to call me a "proper Surrey girl" because I spoke so "properly" as a kid, he'd be horrified now.

Live in London atm, and MLE is everywhere.

JuniperTills · 12/01/2019 10:11

Me singing to me daughter - "One, two, free, four, five, once I cauw a fish alive, six, seven, eighh, nine, ten, den I leh ih go again!" GrinGrin

TerriTummyTowels · 12/01/2019 10:13

e.g."free" instead of "three"

This has been a feature of working class English in the south east and London for decades hun

JuniperTills · 12/01/2019 10:41

e.g."free" instead of "three"
This has been a feature of working class English in the south east and London for decades hun

Yes, as has the glottal stop! Now I think ( fink Wink ) about it though, little miss muffet does sound so bad in my accent - "Lil miss muffeh, sah on a tuffeh, ea-in her curds & wey, along came a spider who sah down beside her and frighened miss muffeh away..." Blush

CashCartiBih · 13/12/2019 07:45

I got that bouji sh** hol up my choppa!!

edwinbear · 13/12/2019 10:37

I overhear 10yr DS talking to his mates on their headsets when they are online playing Fortnite. They are calling each other 'fam' and 'blood' and all sorts of nonsense. They also do weird hand gesticulations to each other when they meet up.

He is a white, middle class and privately educated. I've told him he sounds utterly ridiculous trying to be gangsta. He pays no attention and I carry on quietly laughing at him.

extraminx · 13/12/2019 11:13

A lot of the lyrics are full of violence hatred and anger. When they’re not calling women bitches and hoes. Don’t see what’s so funny about that. The murderous gangs are having the last laugh. But keep your blind self-indulgent blinkers on.

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