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My mum again.

25 replies

Flossam · 24/02/2007 23:10

I've posted before but I'm going to see her again in a couple of weeks and I need some help with what to say/do to help her.

A brief background, my mum has been badly depressed before, about 15 years ago. I can still remember her in floods of tears everyday. She blamed various things for the depression, the catalyst this time was pulling out of a house they were buying and an incident in work where a patient came to harm (under her watch but not by her actions). Also she largely blamed the depression on a abortion she had had before I was born.

The last year has been very tough for my mum. My DS was badly burnt in her kitchen and although he has healed wonderfully and is completely unaffected by the trauma, mum still blames herself, for us being there and for the toxic shock DS went on to develop as she sponged him down with a not too good smelling dishcloth. That she did cause this is unlikely and irrelevent.

Also, and you would think most crucially she was diagnosed with breast cancer and had a mastectomy. She has coped brilliantly with the whole physical and of this at least physchological affects of the operation and still is happy with her decision not to have reconstruction. DS's burn happened a week or so before her op and she was very traumatised by the whole thing, to the extent that she asked GP to be put on tranquilisers. She still regularly brings up how she believes she harmed him and is still reticent around him.

A few weeks ago, my step father informed me that something I had said to mum had sunk her into depression. I had no idea what this was, but decided to wait until mum came to see me to try and talk things through with her. I tried but made little progress, something I had said had upset her but she knew that I wouldn't know what it was or what it was about and didn't want me to know. She didn't want to go into it.

She did talk about how low she has been feeling and told me 'I'd like to kill myself, really only I'm not brave enough to do it'. This was a few weeks ago and the words have been reverberrating around in my head ever since. She needs some kind of help I am sure but I don't know what she would ever agree to. She found counselling, hypnotherapy and spiritual healing all ineffective last time around.

I don't feel that she can go on feeling like this, she isn't herself at all at the moment, has little to say on the phone. Last night I dreamt she went through with it and what if she did? This really wasn't so brief after all was it?

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lissielou · 24/02/2007 23:13

dont know what to say but im so sorry that you have to deal with this

SherlockLGJ · 24/02/2007 23:17

Floss

I was just about to go to bed, but could not not post.

I am sorry that your DM feels like this, but IMO your SD is playing mind games with you, if he will not tell you what it was that triggered it, then why tell you. ??

VeniVidiVickiQV · 24/02/2007 23:17

Oh floss

How odd for your stepdad to pinpoint that you had said something to your mum and not expand on it. Not nice of him, tbh. Although I can imagine he is probably at his wits end too.

Has she been to the GP?

Flossam · 24/02/2007 23:18

I felt that at the time too. Now I don't know that even he knows what it was. She hasn't been to Gp's. That will be the major issue. I just think she won't go. And I so want her to go!

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Saturn74 · 24/02/2007 23:18

Flossam, what a worrying time for you all.
Do you think your Mum may open up and talk to you when you visit again?
Maybe you could write to her to explain that you don't in any way blame her for what happened to your DS, and how much she means to you.
Your love and affection for her is very clear from your post.

VeniVidiVickiQV · 24/02/2007 23:28

You really need to get her to go to the gp sweet. If she is talking like that then I would even suggest you contact her gp yourself and have a chat. This is not right.

Flossam · 24/02/2007 23:36

A letter would be a nice idea HC, I do like that idea. I feel like I need to talk to her first though, so perhaps that could be my second tactic?

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hunkerdave · 24/02/2007 23:40

Oh, Flossam

I wish I was nearer

Is she taking anything now? She sounds like she's dwelling in a big way

Have a huge hug, my lovely - you are so sweet and deserve so much happiness x x x x

hunkerdave · 24/02/2007 23:41

I really wouldn't write a letter - if she's dwelling on something you've said and she won't tell you what it was, there's every chance she'll take some meaningless thing from a letter totally the wrong way.

Flossam · 24/02/2007 23:44

Mum wouldn't like that. That wouldn't be the way to get her to help herself I don't think. She needs gentle convincing that she needs to do 'something' about it. She dosen't like the medicalised method of treating depression.

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Flossam · 24/02/2007 23:47

That is true Hunker. I don't get the impression it's something I said, more something I alluded to in her past that IFAIK I know nothing about. I'm wondering if it might be the abortion again, but I still don't know what I have said so that so basically I have no idea.

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hunkerdave · 24/02/2007 23:51

I would say best not to think of it - it could be that she's totally got hold of the wrong end of the stick of something that you did say, but didn't mean in the way she took it. If she's not 100% chances are she could easily do that.

Flossam · 24/02/2007 23:55

I agree I shouldn't focus on that, more on what is going on with her now.

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Flossam · 26/02/2007 14:42

Just a little update. I had a good chat with mum this morning on the phone. A rare day where neither of us had boys interrupting etc. She says she is feeling much better but that she veiws this as very much a long term thing and says she has good and bad times but felt like it for a few years. She says she has d/w the GP about it, but that it is the GP who is reticent to prescribe anti depressants. There is another GP she could see, if she wished. Which I'll try and talk to her about when I visit. She poo pooed the counselling, she's studied it herself and has a friend who is living through pretty tragic circumstances who is counselled 'And she is still a nervous wreck!'. She is making excuses and again it is a starting point from which I can try and discuss further with her when I see her soon. Thank you for your help so far!

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hunkerdave · 26/02/2007 14:44

Sounds positive - small steps, but that's better - big leaps are often harder to keep as proper changes iyswim.

harpsichordcarrier · 26/02/2007 14:45

floss only just read this but wanted to see what a great job you are doing to support your mum. I think the comment you made, whatever it was is a bit of a red herring tbh and you should try and put it out of your mind if you can
sending love
HC

IntergalacticWalrus · 26/02/2007 14:48

Floss, I have only just seen this.

You know you can call me whenever you need to. I went through something very similar with my mum a few years ago. She has come out of the other side now thankfully, but it's horrible isn't it.

It sounds like she is making some progress though which is fab. Just keep gently encouraging her to see the GP xxxxx

berolina · 26/02/2007 14:52

Only just seen this, Floss. I'm sorry it's so tough right now. (It's FiT btw, in case you don't remember this was my name before).

Your mum certainly sounds like she has a lot on her mind and she is lucky to have a daughter like you. What kind of counselling did she have last time? Might she find something like CBT more accessible?

A few further thoughts have occurred to me while reading your post, but I'm not keen to post them on here as they relate to personal experience. Please CAT me if you want. x

Flossam · 27/02/2007 17:05

Thank you all very much. My mum has always been incredibly supportive of me, she is a lovely lady.

IGW - see you on Friday, will talk to you then.

Belolina, (hi!) I'll see how things go in the next couple of weeks and bear you in mind if thats ok? How are you feeling?

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berolina · 27/02/2007 17:08

Not bad thanks Minor sickiness has passed, but have started getting headaches around 4-5pm every afternoon, without fail The mild but annoying kind that sit between your eyes.

berolina · 27/02/2007 17:08

and how's you?

Wooh · 27/02/2007 21:07

Sorry to Hijack this thread

Flossam

Can you please go to this thread asap

WinnieThePooh · 28/02/2007 05:41

BUMPING AGAIN FOR FLOSSAM

Flossam · 28/02/2007 15:47

Thank you, have posted.

Main problem is indegestion. And now today the M/w not being able to hear the heart beat, which at only 12 weeks I know is normal. But I am a good worrier!! Glad the M/s has gone for you. Are you able take the hedrex stuff when you are pregnant?

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FlossALump · 16/03/2007 12:25

Just to update.

I went to mum's last weekend and we had a lovely weekend. She seemed much more confident with DS who was completely delighted to see her. End result - I didn't bring up about her depression. Stupid now I know.

Anyway I spoke to her yesterday and it was obvious she was very down, lots of pressing later and she said that she has made an appointment to see her GP as she has been feeling panickey at work. She's now phoned to say she has been, commenced on citalopram. She sounds relieved and much better than yesterday, wishes she'd been ages ago. So fingers crossed the AD's will work and my mum will be feeling better soon. Thank you all for your help (even though I seemed to have ignored it all(!) it is very much appreciated.)

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