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Staying for the sake of my daughter.

17 replies

StaceyKeller · 14/12/2016 12:17

Hi there. Erm I don't know how to start this but anyhooo.
I'm a 22yr old mother, to a lovely daughter of 2. She's beautiful, smart and i just love her to bits. I live with her father, my partner of almost 5 years.
He's 34yrs old, so much older than me and so you would think he has sense/mature lol. He does, but he's kind of a kid in the head.
Well, lately i've been feeling depressed because i've had to quit my job to "fulfil duties at home". Looking for nursery for my daughter and my partner has had to suddenly do so much "overtime" that means he can't be at home to help either.
I've had to grow up fast. I constantly get this nagging voice in my head reminding me that i'm missing out on my years. High school friends have all drifted their course in life, going holidays, enjoying themselves while I'm stuck with a man I'm falling out of love with and wasting my life sitting at home being lazy and just not moving forward in terms of actual progress. ( i feel anyway)

Well today i decided to message here because i am lonely. And want to hope that my thoughts aren't stupid. Want some mature and good advice too. Anyone been through similar:

The beginning of our relationship was nice. He was my first and he knew it. He is the kind of guy that used to sell drugs, been homeless, rough childhood. Indian asian family that neglected him so he dealt in the streets. He always tells me the reason why he isn't anywhere in life is because of his father. Anyway, our relationship wasn't so fancy. he's never bothered to take me for dinner. NOT ONCE! I mean we've eaten out. But never a romantic gesture. He was never that romantic in the beginning i guess but still.
Went central london (oxford street) with him couple of times... never again. Too embarrassing. The hustle and bustle of crowded streets grinds his gears. he'd pick on old ladies if they merely brush his ankle or anything. He's had outbursts in public before i just avoid going anywhere with him as much as possible now. He's anger issues are unbearable.
He's anger isn't a daily thing. I would say I'm more moodier than him. But he has beaten me up in the past. to the point where i've had to cover with makeup for work. id make excuses for him and saying i guess i started it. I slap him, He thinks its okay to pull my hair, slam me against corners of tables/sofas. put his weight on me till I'm choking.
He's done this about 4/5 times in the past and the first he promised never to touch me again. I said i would leave him. But. He didn't keep his word.

Sex: Sex is boring for me. Don't get me wrong, i LOVE HIM. but i rarely cum anymore. If i do, i have to really force it.. ya know - make the motions more rough...stimulant. He never gives me foreplay. Rarely touches me down there either. Just slips it in and we resume our typical sex positions. Predicable too. So about a 2 years ago i told myself to stop giving him any oral sex. If he doesn't play me. I don't play him. But he seems cool with that. Which makes me more mad. And when we argue and I tell him about our sex life. He says he will be more ya know. But he never changes.iM NOT ASKING FOR MUCH but i am your GF/OR best friend/wife like he says i am :/ whatever.

As a father: He loves his daughter obviously. Can't fault him there. He truly does, loves her to bits. He would do anything for her.

As a man/partner he really is emotionally unavailable. We can cuddle, play around sometimes. But relationship wise, he's no romantic.
He irritates me more and more. I feel hate for him now. Our arguments become more more petty and pointless.
We are not the team i wish we were to move forward together in life. I have to deal with things myself.
I want to finish my driving. told his to do his. He can drive. bUT LOST HIS LICENSE years ago. So i say re-do your tests. but he'd rather do mine. promises anyway.

He smokes weed. Loves it actually. He would spend most of his wages on it. After helping me with the bills of course. I want to quit smoking tobacco and weed. i STRUGGLE with it everyday. He knows this.
But yesterday. E.g
brought home 5 packs of Mayfair. ( That he stole) from work. i TOLD him to give to his friends.
Like I'm not trying to blame everything on him. but i really feel like his holding back in life.
I have goals and dreams.
He thinks his time has passed.
I want a healthier lifestyle/relationship with him.
He wants to smoke till his old. Wants to grow in my house too. Which he did once already. Regretted that. Told him never again.
We HAVE A CHILD. i am not going to lose my daughter over him or his bullshit. He doesn't seem to understand.
And because of our age difference. I believe he doesn't take me seriously either. like when i talk to him. good advice. Its like talking to LIMESTONE.
my ADVICE for the both of us....just trickles, slides off him. he doesn't listen. Will never change for anyone.

He disrespects my family too. So much more. Buts thats for next time.

NEED advice.
What should i do?
What are your opinion on our relationship?

OP posts:
Believeitornot · 14/12/2016 12:19

You should leave him. For many reasons. But you're young. Your daughter deserves better.

JigglyTuff · 14/12/2016 12:21

Leave him. You have your whole life ahead of you and you're young.

And for the sake of your daughter, you should leave rather than stay. She'll see through that layer of make up.

KnockMeDown · 14/12/2016 12:21

For the sake of your daughter, you should leave him.

If he is as good a father as you say, he will continue to be a good father after you leave. But this relationship is not a good role model for your daughter.

Underthemoonlight · 14/12/2016 12:25

The beating alone is enough to leave himyou don't have to settle for less because you have a child together

Costacoffeeplease · 14/12/2016 12:28

Why would you stay? There's nothing nice about him, and you could actually have him arrested for domestic violence. You're showing your daughter what a relationship is, and that his behaviour is acceptable, she will more than likely choose a similar loser for her husband - do you want her to live the life that you're living now?

KatelovesJames · 14/12/2016 12:42

Staying for your daughter isn't for the best. I stayed in an abusive marriage for years because I thought it was best - it wasn't. It's been two years since I kicked his sorry ass out of my house and my dd is happier and more settled than ever. It took time, she was confused but I refuse to normalise abuse and I want her to know how a healthy relationship works. Try to keep those thoughts over the disruption of a break up.

This man has beaten you up. Don't let it become frequent

CatyB · 14/12/2016 12:58

I honestly feel this is way more complicated and you need to evaluate everything you said and come up with a decision. Think of a how your life would go without him and move forward with your needs. You are so young ...

However, I can tell you soemthing about staying for the sake of your daughter. I come from a family of people that should have divorced but didn't. The fights started when I was around 8 and have gone on for what I feel like eternity. Not physical fights, ever, thankfully, but arguments, nagging, getting angry over trivial family stuff, things the other one did. I have had serious mental issues because of all this, because as a child, my world was made of my parents, and it was not a good world. I remember when I was young, I would curl in front of the computer in my room and just cry, til they stop screaming in the next room. I honestly think you don't want that for your daughter.

If you feel like the man is not for you and that you are better off without him, then by all means, don't use your daughter as an excuse for staying with him. It sounds like you have serious issues, which will grow and grow and eventually they will get to your daughter. A child with such a problematic family will not live a happy life, trust me. The word 'family' is poinltess if there is no love and understanding between you. And a child needs a family, even if that family is divorced. She deserves better.

Happybunny19 · 14/12/2016 13:06

Of course you should leave this loser. What on earth are you complaining about sex for, you shouldn't let this abusive bully any where near you or your daughter. Please raise the bar on what you expect from a partner because this person you live with is so low he's dragging you down with him.

cestlavielife · 14/12/2016 13:10

Go to gp. Tell someone about the violence. Get referAl to local support services to leave him.
There is zero benefit to your daughter to stay in this relationship.
You need real life support to help you see how damaging this is.

Hoppinggreen · 14/12/2016 13:17

Should you leave a drug abusing violent possibly mentally ill man?
What do you think?

Whocansay · 14/12/2016 13:18

The man is a drug addict.
He refuses to help you parent in any real way.
He has been violent.

How is this a good father?
How is this a good partner?

This bastard isn't even a good human being, let alone any of the above! You should leave for the sake of your daughter, not stay. You are not safeguarding her. If SS gets wind of the drugs, they could take her away as you are not protecting her. Just leave.

StaceyKeller · 14/12/2016 13:19

To everyone:

Yeah I guess I would say I am staying for my daughter.
It is way more complicated than this.
I'm not saying he is 100% at fault too.

My mind is very good at playing tricks on me. Ya know.
Sometimes I think I read things the wrong way, looking for something to argue about, not hearing his side, does he have emotional problems he hasn't faced so takes out on me? Am I not being fair? Am I a bad mother? A bad wife, not enough to satisfy him?

These all run through my mind when trying to justify his/my own actions.

I've never experienced this before. He was "my first" everything. my young adult memories have been formed with him. I don't want to lose something between us that could be great.
I would rather be there by his side and get thru his dark side if I know we CAn come out of this better and for the best.
Then again I can't change some1. He says I don't love him for himself, he's not good enough, he doesn't feel like what he does pleases me.
Is that emotional blackmail? Or could it be that I am being controlling myself...

I just want to talk things over with him. But he'd rather act like nothing happened. If we argue. Next day. He's cool. Forgotten everything.
And I'm left feeling confused. So I shut him down. Give him the cold shoulder.
Then it's me being emotionally detached.
It's a vicious cycle.
I feel I've changed personally since I've met him:
I'm more rude/ detached/ I find it hard to make friends/socialise.

See I've lost good friends over him. Family

It's only now I've recently been talking to my mum again. She hates him/dad hates him/sister hates him and Lil brother sees him as cool.
They know how he is. At first they thought I would change him for the best. Stop his old ways. But have come to realise no one is changing for no one. My mum says I being controlled, losing my years for him etc. I've never been abroad on holiday etc. Mum says he should take me out, dinner, holiday, if he loves me. He would do these lthings to make me happy. It's not about money. I know she's right.
My mum gives me good advice too. But she is saying I have to make that choice. She doesn't want to get unvolved in fear I will disappear with him in retaliation or protect him. But she calls me everyday to consol me.

Things do run deeper than this too. But some stuff I can't say.

I guess it's just a matter of time now before I snap and wake up.

OP posts:
StaceyKeller · 14/12/2016 13:21

And my daughter. You are all right. My daughter is what is important here too.
I know what he is. Not good for me
But at this moment. I'm scared of taking the next steps I guess

OP posts:
KatelovesJames · 14/12/2016 14:10

Honestly- it just sounds more abusive and controlling. I'm sorry but don't ever doubt your worth or try and explain his behaviour. I did that. For 13 years and it almost killed me.

Contact womens aid. Don't make rash decisions and come up with a safe exit plan for your and dd. Domestic abuse charities will help you with all of this (if you're Bristol or north east I can give you names of charities which are brilliant).

That step to leave is hard. Leaving isn't easy but the right thing to do for you AND dd. I'm two years post leaving, please let me know if I can help.

NotTheFordType · 14/12/2016 14:29

If I'm reading your OP correctly, the violent incidents have been in response to you slapping him. Is that right? Because if so, I'm wondering why you would be physically violent to a man who you know has major issues controlling his anger.

TheSilveryPussycat · 14/12/2016 14:32

Many, many of us have had these thoughts:

Sometimes I think I read things the wrong way, looking for something to argue about, not hearing his side, does he have emotional problems he hasn't faced so takes out on me? Am I not being fair? Am I a bad mother? A bad wife, not enough to satisfy him?

Do you think he has similar thoughts? No, he doesn't. Abusers don't think like that. Only those being abused.

cestlavielife · 14/12/2016 16:37

Dont talk to him.
Do not let him.know you thinking about options.

Do talk to a counsellor . A professional preferablyy women's aid .
They will.help.you talk it through.

Do talk.to.your gp and ask for referral.to local services For women.

Do be ready to call police if he ever hits you or pushes you again.
Have a bag with documents money spare mobile. Nappies toys . Once violent he will be again.
Just in case. Have a plan.

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