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how to interpret this? Parents playing push-pull games over visiting grandchild

14 replies

parentsvsPIL · 12/12/2016 05:56

i'm just looking for interpretations here - I don't think I'll change what I do much (which is keep my parents at polite arms' length and engage with them as little as possible).

My parents are absolutely nuts and I have moaned about them on here, as well as having extensive counselling/ CBT/ etc both recently and intermittently over the last 20 years, to deal with the effects of having been brought up by people incapable of emotional maturity or honesty.

I recently had my first child; DS is now 5 weeks old. Parents disapproved of the pregnancy (they think I'm incapable of running my own life, despite abundant evidence to the contrary) and apart from initial bitching refused to discuss it with us at all, though they bitched about it behind our backs a lot to relatives and mutual friends.

Since the birth they have said multiple times that "they would be willing to offer support but they probably wouldn't be welcome", usually at highly inappropriate times such as in the phonecall when we told them DS had arrived, or in front of their own guests when we have skyped in to say hello to relatives that wanted to congratulate us on DS. Every contact with them has involved statements both of "we will visit" and "no, we won't visit because we'd be in the way". They also repeatedly offer support and then withdraw it because apparently we clearly don't need or want it so it would just be a nuisance. They keep referring to the fact we apparently have loads of friends doing things for us, as though it's a surprise that we have any friends at all, let alone any that would be willing to be any help.

We have politely said, repeatedly, both by email and on the phone/skype "you would be welcome to visit and meet your grandchild if you would like to" and "thankyou for the offers of support, they are greatly appreciated; while we don't immediately need support we would be delighted to introduce you to your grandchild".

But they just keep repeating this every bloody phonecall and at least once a week by email. The way it comes across it looks like my dad wants to visit and my mum doesn't want to.

Of possible relevance is te fact my mum is insanely jealous of other people's friendships. She has successfully got rid of all my father's close friends by finding reasons to dislike them or their wives and hammering home nastiness about these people until my father begins to spout the nastiness too, and drops them. My mother has always seen me as competition for my father's attention (which is a bit of a joke because my father sees me as academic competition so behaves like an arse towards me - i.e. not in ways that might make me push out my mother from the relationship!). I wonder if she has decided that now is the time to make sure she destroys any relationship between me and my father?
Or that she only wants to be "needed" so she can moan to her friends about how put upon she is by her lazy daughter who demands help?

Has anyone else had this? Gah it's annoying. Though obviously, it's not as annoying as having them in the same country and having to listen to my mother's wittering 24/7 for a week. So it's in my interests to have them keep game-playing. Though that can't go on indefinitely...

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NiceFalafels · 12/12/2016 06:26

Just be like a broken record 'yes we've already said we'd welcome your help

NiceFalafels · 12/12/2016 06:30

They might be waiting for you to say what help you need. Can you ask them when they are visiting? And ask if they could cook some meals for the freezer?

Believeitornot · 12/12/2016 06:38

WHy do you want your parents involved when they've caused you so much difficulty?

Only1scoop · 12/12/2016 06:38

Blimey I wouldn't be requesting any cooking from that Martyr. "Yes you keep saying you'd like to meet DG....when would you like to come over" my own mother is similar, always found it unbearable.

Gizlotsmum · 12/12/2016 06:41

Suggest a date for them to visit? Then they have to either say they can't make that date ( -have a few options ready to suggest) or they decline. You then have the ability to say it's a shame you couldn't make x date when they start again

Aftertheraincomesthesun · 12/12/2016 06:54

Wow, how frustrating. You sound like your approach is perfect - 'do let me know if you wish to meet your grandchild, and we are coping very well and need no help' covers it. The longer it goes on the less likely your parents are to crack.

xingbake · 12/12/2016 07:02

They want you to explicitly say that you want them/need them to come. I think it's pretty obvious in how you've phrased it to them - if you want to meet your grandchild etc... that you don't actually want them to come (understandable afaic), but are willing to let them just because of your new dc.

xingbake · 12/12/2016 07:04

The way you are phrasing it is you are doing them a favour, they don't like that feeling, and are playing games out of pride.

Fuck 'em, frankly Grin

AttilaTheMeerkat · 12/12/2016 07:06

They were not good parents to you; why do you want them at all to have any involvement with your child?.

Your mother still sees you as competition for her H even now.

You need to detach completely from them, not continue any game playing from your end.

SixthSenseless · 12/12/2016 07:12

How exhausting.
So have they not seen the baby yet?
Just say 'would you like to come for the day on Saturday? ' and even 'And thanks for the offer of help, if you could pick up something for lunch from M&S that would be great. We're still getting to grips with having a baby to look after '.

Just offer a definite invitation. Which puts you back in control.

If they come, they come. If they don't, their loss.

At the moment you are fueling your mother's fire: 'she hasn't invited us...'

xingbake · 12/12/2016 07:19

Sixth, I think the OP lives in a different country to her parents, and a visit isn't popping in with some M&S food, but a week long stressful visit. I can understand why she isn't falling over herself to invite them.

parentsvsPIL · 12/12/2016 07:59

just to clarify we're a day's worth of flights away from them (thankfully). So not just a matter of inviting them over or asking them to cook for us.

Mother does love to be the martyr who has to sacrifice herself endlessly for my needy sister, while controlling my sister's every thought and movement. Thankfully my sister has never really had any inclination towards independent thought or action so is turning into a clone of my mother. Mother of course now wants to control sister's child too, and is currently being encouraged to.

I suspect my mother wants me to need her so she can play the martyr over here too, getting praise for being snobbish and controlling. Sod that...

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SixthSenseless · 12/12/2016 08:17

OMG. Sorry!

HorseyHorseyTwat · 12/12/2016 09:20

I wouldn't bother OP. Doesn't sound like someone you want in your child's life anyway.

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