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Have I made the right decision? (sorry long)

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Feelbad5 · 11/12/2016 19:05

I feel very bad and like a bad person; I'll explain why.

About six weeks ago I left my partner of almost 6 years convinced I was going to start a new life with this man who moved here from overseas. I wasn't entirely convinced about things but I was ready to give it a shot.

He left his home there thinking he was gonna start a new, better life here marrying me (initially to be able to stay but with the intention of staying together to see if we were really meant to be forever as silly as it sounds).
Right after landing he started saying that he wasn't sure he was gonna stay because it had become apparent to him that the UK doesn't offer the same financial support with education as his country, where he told me he could get grants to study. At this point I was a bit shocked because I had invested financially in a place of my own to embark on this and spent quite a bit, as well as being taken by surprise by his wanting to suddenly study when he was talking about finding a job here all along.
During the last day together he then told me all this was due to him being disorientated the first days and missing home. That's understandable but he kept telling me until a few days ago that he wasn't sure about staying or going back on the date his return ticket was for (the original plan was that he wouldn't use that and marry me so he could get to stay) so it wasn't just the first few days of adjusting. I never got the impression he had been impressed by England either.

The date of his return was today. He got on the plane and is on it at the moment, flying back home.

We spent all yesterday talking about it. He had decided to stay but I had concluded I didn't want to get married without any guarantees for the future. He kept telling me with no guy I could be 100% sure the marriage would last forever and kept asking me what I wanted him to do, putting all the pressure on me. I ended up telling him I wanted him to stay as I was feeling really bad about it, seeing how disappointed and hurt he seemed and since he was adamant that I was sending him back and that he would never want to see me in person again (he said he'd keep in touch online but just that). Talking and talking he seemed to think I was pushing him to go as I wasn't budging on the marriage matter.
I feel like a bad person for letting him down like that. I didn't want him to go like that. I just don't want to marry and then divorce for stupid reasons because we rushed it. I needed some reassurance that he wasn't ready to give me. At the airport we both got emotional. He kept saying how on the plane here he had thought he was going towards a new life and he was instead going back and that he didn't expect me to let him go.
Sorry if I sound silly but I'm feeling really guilty right now. Thanks for reading.

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SelfCleaningVagina · 12/12/2016 04:23

A bit harsh to call me idiotic and all that.

No it isn't. It really really isn't.

And for your information, my ex cheated on me a few times and that's why I had decided to leave him in the end despite trying to fix things for years.

No it isn't. you left him because you thought you were going to someone better. You didn't leave him because he cheated. If it was the cheating you'd have left him ages ago.

Also, while the affair you had was merely an emotional affair until after you had actually left your partner, it was still an affair of sorts, wasn't it? You cheated to. You sought out the attention of other men on the internet with the intention of getting into a relationship. That is cheating.

For goodness sake woman grow up and be honest with yourself.

What country was this man from?

daisychain01 · 12/12/2016 04:46

Candidly, why do you think you owe him anything? Why do you feel bad, he's nothing to you other than the illusion that you had a "relationship" which was 100% about him, what he wanted, what was right for him. 0% about you.

In none of your description about this situation do you talk about what you would gain, it has to be more balanced than that, to be a healthy relationship

Please, please say you've learned from this experience and won't get involved with random internet chancers.

The one good thing was it motivated you to leave a dead end relationship where you were being cheated on.

You do deserve better!! Keep repeating like a mantra until you believe it

Feelbad5 · 12/12/2016 05:33

He could have stayed. I did do my research. If a non EU citizen is married to someone from the EU they can stay in the UK and enjoy the same rights as the EU citizen. You don't have to prove you can support them as you are getting a family permit and not a visa of sorts. It's a much simpler and much cheaper process than for a Brit marrying a non EU citizen, which is frankly unfair.

The marriage wouldn't have been in the UK as I know that's not allowed.

He is saying I broke his heart.

As for me cheating. I didn't go looking for men to chat to on the internet if you want to know. Relationship was pretty much over at that point and I was sticking with him only because I hate the idea of investing so much emotionally and then lose everything.
I won't go into detail but I got to talk to this guy only because he tried to get in contact with my ex online through me.
I don't think it's fair to cast judgments without really knowing much about things. Me cheating or not isn't even what the thread is about.

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Feelbad5 · 12/12/2016 05:39

I specified what my ex did because I wasn't the evil b*tch who dumped her ex for a guy from the internet. I left my own country to move here and be rewarded with cheating so there you go. I didn't leave the country because my life is here now and I want to stay here.

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Ohitdo · 12/12/2016 06:00

Sorry but idiotic is the word. You were talking marriage and making lifelong plans with a man you had never met.

SelfCleaningVagina · 12/12/2016 06:09

How did you break his heart? Confused He decided to leave, you didn't force him to. To refuse to continue the relationship unless you agreed to marry him very soon is just evidence that he wanted a marriage of convenience and you were the nearest schmuck who was going to provide it. He's angry that he put effort in to pretending he loved you and you won't be manipulated by him into fulfilling your part in his cunning plan.

And he's still manipulating you now by making you feel guilty about it. Honestly, how dim do you have to be to not see through this? Confused

SparklyMagpie · 12/12/2016 09:33

Wow. Just wow

hellsbellsmelons · 12/12/2016 09:42

Wow indeed!
You need to call Womens Aid.
Ask about their Freedom Programme and attend the 12 week course.
You seem to have low self-esteem and no boundaries for relationships.
This course will help you with all of that.
Work on yourself.
Looking to marry someone you met on-line is NOT normal behaviour!

Newbrummie · 12/12/2016 10:44

Neither of those men were right for you, you've got your own place now, make that home and start again ..., I wouldn't be marrying somebody I hadn't known for st least 4 years. It's around that time the masks slips in my experience

Alfiemoon1 · 12/12/2016 13:06

What country is he from op ? I can only speak from my sisters friends experience she met an Egyptian man much younger than her brought him to the uk and got married we were all dubious but she wouldn't have it. They were together years but as soon as he got his citizenship he left and divorced her. He now has a new wife and 2 kids my sisters friend got off lightly he hasn't claimed half her house etc. Unfortunately the friend still hasn't learnt her lesson and has married another Egyptian but as she is no longer working can't get him into the country

mrssapphirebright · 12/12/2016 13:38

This is a joke right?

SelfCleaningVagina · 12/12/2016 13:45

If only all threads like this were jokes mrs Xmas Confused

SelfCleaningVagina · 12/12/2016 13:50

I bet the OP won't say what country he's from Alfie. She's already been asked twice upthread and has ignored it.

They never like to say, for some odd reason. All these women who post about this problem or some version of it, never like to say where the man in question is from. Can't think why. Hmm

chiquita1 · 12/12/2016 13:54

When he said that "there are no guarantees" is not because he is being honest as you said. He is basically covering his ass for when he dumps you. He is trying to use you, if you are ok with that then go ahead.

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