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Ex's violence to me - he knew what he was doing all the time (poss. triggering)t

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SangtheSun · 09/12/2016 20:22

A bit of context first. After 20 years married to an abusive man - he fits Lundy Bancroft's profile of The Drill Sergeant perfectly - our divorce is almost complete.

Anyway, last night as I was drifting off to sleep, not thinking about anything in particular, I suddenly realised that all X's violence to me had never been a "loss of control" as I'd always believed.

He would hit me around the head with an open hand, which, while it would leave me with cuts and bruises and often literally seeing stars, didn't do the same damage a punch to the head might.

He would punch my arms and legs, leaving lots of bruising which I would cover up with clothing.

When he obtained a position which he would be disqualified from if he had a criminal record such as for violence, he suddenly stopped hitting me. The threat was always there but he had miraculously gained self control.

I don't know if I'm communicating this well, but I realised, or my subconscious pointed out to me, that all his violence was calculated to hurt, frighten and control me, while minimising the chance of other people discovering it.

Even now I was somewhat believing he couldn't help it, he lost control. But he didn't did he? He knew exactly what he was doing, everytime. For some reason this has shaken me up a bit. I've realised he is an even worse human than I thought and I wonder what else my mind might point out to me in the future? (There were other violent incidents, doing other stuff, in case this doesn't sound "that bad").

I'm not really asking anything, just, I don't know, this is fucked up isn't it? I've done well to survive and he is a nasty piece of work not to be trusted in the slightest.

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Notmyweek2 · 09/12/2016 20:28

Christ!
20 years you put up with it?? You are certainly a stronger person than me!
Thank god you are out of it now though!

tribpot · 09/12/2016 20:33

I'm so glad you're away from him now. Because I'm sure you're right, all of his acts of violence were calculated - and if he was capable of all that when he was thinking straight, what might he have done if he had got carried away one time? I think we all know the answer to that.

Your subconscious feels you are now safe enough to try to process some of what you suppressed before, so I guess this is a sign of healing but I think you're right to worry what else might surface. Are you having any counselling? I think you probably do need professional support to recover from this prolonged period of horror.

Well done on getting away.

Goandplay · 09/12/2016 20:36

I agree with getting some professional support. You will need to talk this all out of your system.

I am so pleased you are sleeping safely at night now.

glassspider · 09/12/2016 20:41

Hi

Well done for getting out of that horrendous situation. You've been amazing. You rock. Flowers

Lundy Bancroft 's book was the thing I thought of straight away when I saw the title of your post! I have recently read this myself and I found it confirmed a few things I already knew, deep down, but then pushed out of my mind as I thought I was being silly!

This whole lie about people not being in their right minds when they do abuse, that they lose control ... it's such BS. And you are completely right, your ex is just a nasty piece of work. Well done for getting rid of him for good!!

Starlight2345 · 09/12/2016 20:42

I ended up in a refuge...It took me a few weeks living there to realise I was there for the same reasons as everyone else..

It takes time ..just remember not only did he spin you a line but you also said things to yourself to make it bearable..

My ex strangled me while ds was in my arms, tried to throw DS down the stairs. I had to phone the police and barricade us in nursery... During the time waiting for the police he carefully removed my sim card and put my phone back together so it was only when I went to use it I found sim missing.. so yes he was very much in control... Its the little things you realise

SangtheSun · 09/12/2016 20:44

Thanks for your replies. DV can leave you feeling so isolated. Less than (although I probably always felt that - thanks mum) and somehow to blame.
We are about to get down to the nitty gritty of the divorce settlement. He has tried hard to persuade me not to use a solicitor, but of course I am. So he's trying a charm offensive. I've been nc for 11 months (bliss) but we've had some contact because of practicalities this week.

I think my subconscious is telling me to watch out, he is devious, manipulative and evil.

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SangtheSun · 09/12/2016 20:47

Starlight, he had an horrific childhood. I truly believed, at first, that he just needed my love to heal him. Ffs. I'd spent my childhood protecting my little sister from our parents, it was just a continuation of that role.

Eventually he'd broken me down so much I couldn't think straight any more. I was too afraid, shamed, guilty.

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pinktransit · 09/12/2016 20:53

It took me many years to realise that my XH was also deliberately violent. That until the night I left there was never a bruise that I couldn't hide. And that so many of the arguments we had that had always been my fault were actually manipulated by him.
It was a very strange realisation, and I had to mentally re-write quite a lot of my history.

I'm ok with it now, but at the time it was very hard.

SangtheSun · 09/12/2016 20:53

Goandplay I have had therapy, but I guess I'm still realising things. Yes, sleep, sometimes all night long. Lovely.

Tribpot I wonder if I'll ever truly recover? This prolonged trauma has damaged me. I've managed to work ( he never allowed it so I was starting from scratch) and generally function, but I feel wrong inside.

glassspider Bancroft's book was a real eye opener. I got hold of a copy when we were still together. I had to find someone I could trust and I felt terribly disloyal.But Drill Sergeant described him to a tee, it was uncanny.

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idontlikealdi · 09/12/2016 20:58

God sang, I don't know what to say apart from fucking good on you for getting out. AngryFlowersWineBrewCake whatever's more appropriate:)

SangtheSun · 09/12/2016 21:05

I'll take it all, thanks aldi.

notmyweek2 yeah, one of my biggest regrets, my astonishing powers of endurance.

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tribpot · 09/12/2016 21:06

This is an amazing video by Leslie Morgan Steiner - absolutely the last person you can imagine as a 'victim' of domestic abuse, yet she went through absolute hell before she got away.

She rebuilt her life and you will too.

SangtheSun · 09/12/2016 22:00

I just watched that video, tribpot. It's given me a lot to think about.
I don't think I'll ever marry a kind gentle man though. I don't trust myself to recognise one.
It's ok though, there's lots of different ways to be happy.

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Atenco · 09/12/2016 22:40

OP, congratulations on getting away from him. One of the things that nearly all abusive men have is to isolate their victim and make them feel useless. It works perfectly to their ends. So the longer a person stays in such a relationship the harder it is to leave, so well done you.

shinynewusername · 09/12/2016 22:47

They can always control it. No one ever commits DV when there are witnesses who might intervene, especially witnesses who might give the abuser a taste of his own medicine.

Well done for getting away - an incredible achievement after 20 years of brain washing by him.

tribpot · 10/12/2016 12:35

Yes, I didn't mean LMS had rebuilt her life because she'd found someone else to marry. That's a nice-to-have extra compared to a life lived in safety, autonomy and dignity.

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