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Working through what the hell happened - love to hear your thoughts

17 replies

newgreenshoes · 08/12/2016 13:53

I am looking for some alternative points of view. I’ve heard from my family, my friends and my ex partner but I’d like to throw this out to the wider world.

I’m 44, average English guy. I met and fell in love (with a big L) with a wonderful woman three years ago about my age. I’ll call her Ex from here on in.

So many things were wonderful. I loved her strength, her beauty, sense of humour and her daughter (now ten years old). Many other things.

We never had it easy. Her ex husband looked after his daughter very well (I’ve not issue with that) financially – paid for really good prep school in London and there was an Amex for any of her needs which my ex was in control of (and in fairness was pretty sensible in use of it).

My Ex comes from Indonesia so we had the challenge of understanding each other whilst coming from very different cultures. I’d say most of the time we had a wonderful time but in the other bit of the time we had a dreadful time – massively misunderstanding each other when the pressure was on.

Just under one year into the relationship I asked her to marry me – I couldn’t imagine ever being happier when she said yes. Time passes, I buy a house for her and her daughter last summer. Moving and settling together is something I understand is never easy but my word this was had. I’d put everything thing I had into the house and was working 50 / 60 hours a week, but the first few months were really hard.

I’d left it to my partner to choose the house she wanted with the budget I could afford. Once we moved in though it was a whirlwind of demands and requests. I’d come home from a full on day to “can we have this”, I “want to change this”, “we need this”. I’d been clear from the start that once I’d bought the place we’d need to consolidate, save our pennies for what we really needed further down the line. But it was as if I’d never uttered those words.

The more the demands grew, the more I retreated. My partner complained I wasn’t talking to her – I was afraid to as I was worried what more would be asked for next. I tried to stay cool but things blew up. She moved out, I asked her to come back, she did. It was very hard but I thought we had both come to terms with it as a reaction to the intensity of moving in together.

More recently – from the start of 2016 my job was getting increasingly intense. I had a new boss, the company was performing badly and I was working my socks off. I was worried about the future, ability to pay the mortgage etc. Through this time I tried to stay positive about things at home – I didn’t want to put at risk the wonderful life I had there because of the crap I was experiencing at work. I didn’t always succeed – I could be grumpy or thoughtless on occasion but I tried hard.

Things go harder in the summer. I was put through a redundancy programe which dragged on for ten weeks. I fought really hard to keep my job and by extension the house – I have no savings and my ex doesn’t work. I kept my job.
During that time I felt I had zero support from my partner. I don’t mean money or a pat on the head. I mean an understanding, a bit of support, ‘are you ok’, ‘thank you for fighting so hard for us’. Instead I got ‘ can we get a new TV’, ‘ can we go to Greece for a couple of weeks’, ‘I’d like a new sofa’. I repeated my advice from last year, gently, we have to be careful there is too much at risk. Alongside this it felt like whenever anything was planned for us together the focus was on what was easier for the Ex ‘I’d like to leave at lunch time on Friday for our camping weekend, why don’t you get the train after work and meet us there’ – because it would take me four hours to get there instead of two with us together and we spend train and petrol…. Lots of examples of this…

So, then there was the blow up. A silly argument about the garden. My ex complained I’d not sorted things out and I’d ‘failed’. This was after another long day at work, plenty of stuff to deal with and then coming home to be told I’d failed on cleaning up the garden. I tried hard to say yes I could do more but I don’t have much time and am under pressure but this didn’t wash. In the end I got quite frustrated and basically said she has all the time in the world, I have none (she doesn’t work), I am busting my guts to keep everything together and getting zero support and called her a spoilt princess.

I shouldn’t have said that or reacted that way, I know. But I was exhausted and frustrated at carrying all the risk and stress. My ex response was to say ‘that’s it, I am not talking to you anymore’. A week later she announced that they would move out.

I was devastated and wrecked. Physically the lot. I asked her many times if that was what she really wanted to do. There was then a month of her living there before she could move into the new place she has found for her daughter and herself. Interestingly the rent on the place is almost six hundred pounds more than the mortgage on the house I’d bought but could no longer afford to pay for now her ex wasn’t contributing to the mortgage to offset some of the costs of me looking after his step daughter.

Still with me? Thank you. Subsequently Ex told me that throughout the process of her moving out she wanted me to persuade her to stay. I think deep down I knew this but wasn’t prepared to do it. Not because I don’t love her, miss her or her daughter but because the hurt / rejection of her threat to move out of the house I’d bought for her, her daughter, us, together, a family for ever was something she could gamble on? I spent months in agony walking back into the house and it being empty, physically in pain. I am now in the final throws of selling the house and moving away but it still hurts. It probably will always.

Please let me know what you think? Be kind but honest.

OP posts:
Kione · 08/12/2016 14:04

Well, she sounds like a totally spoilt princess and maybe you ate better off without her?
The way you put it its all one way, you giving your all and she just taking more and more. Its not fair on you.

Happybunny19 · 08/12/2016 14:05

I'll try to be kind, as you are obviously a trusting, kind man, but it seems the only thing you did get right about your ex was calling her a spoilt princess. She sounds like a cruel, using money-grabber, out for all she can get and you should celebrate having her out of your life.

I assume she's back to sponging off her ex now. Well good luck to him, you are well rid.

Sorry you're hurting but it beats being hurt every single day you spend with a parasite.

Hermonie2016 · 08/12/2016 14:17

I think a few things have contributed.

You moved in together just as the honeymoon period ended so life was going to get tough.
You both had different expectations, her for your support (maybe materially) and you for emotional support.
If a new'ish relationship breaks up twice I think you walk away.Too much drama and not enough compatibility.
I do wonder what she might say about you and your behaviour? For your own sake don't consider yourself a victim, nothing was done to you and I'm sure she loved you as much as you loved her but perhaps you didn't really know each other.

DPotter · 08/12/2016 14:18

There are some people in this world who never have enough and who cannot give anything. I am sad to say your Ex is the epitome of one of those people. You could NEVER have done enough, never and she would have taken, demanded, cajoled, every step of the way.

You have been strong in your fight for your job and your 'family' and also in subconsciously recognising you must part to keep your own sanity and self respect. Selling the house will I hope mark the next stage in your recovery from the emotional battering you've had the past 12-18 months.

Please don't be tempted to get back with your Ex, once you are starting to feel better. I get the feeling you may still be contact, but please don't let yourself be sucked back in - nothing good will come of it.
I wish you the very best

Jog22 · 08/12/2016 14:20

Yep, you dodged a bullet there. She certainly sounds like a spoilt princess.

I think you need to work on your self-esteem a bit. Even though she gave you no support, ignored your stress and just demanded more things, couldn't even lift a finger to do a bit of gardening you still wanted her back?

Tell us what were the good things about her?

MissMarplesHat · 08/12/2016 14:22

Gold digger.

lukasgrahamfan · 08/12/2016 14:36

She was in love with your wallet. You are better off without her and find someone who deserves you and who isn't a spoilt brat.

ItShouldHaveBeenJingleJess · 08/12/2016 14:48

I agree with jog's comment about finding ways to boost your self esteem. My ex and I sadly split due to the stress surrounding our son's ASD diagnosis, but for the six years we were together, it was a loving and mutually supportive relationship - and we were as poor as church mice. Of course I have an "If I won the lottery" list of desirable items in my head, but having someone in your life to love and care for you, and who loves and cares for you right back, should always, always take priority over the accumulation of 'stuff'. If it doesn't, then the individual's priorities are back to front.

I'm not suggesting for a minute she didn't love you - I am certain she did - but she has not been appreciative of your hard work and the effort you put into making her happy. Perhaps she will regret that at some point, but I'd be disinclined to give her another chance as she may well fall into old patterns again. Find a woman who values the love, emotional support and kindness you can offer her, over the material comforts you can provide.

wherearemymarbles · 08/12/2016 14:49

Maybe she was used to getting her own way with her ex or he had cash to burn on her.

Ive been to Indonesia a lot and it is and the people are very different and it is probably a culture clash you wouldnt be able to solve. I suspect you are better off without her.

MorrisZapp · 08/12/2016 14:54

I never understand how people can get to the moving in stage with partners they have never discussed roles, values with etc, especially if kids are involved.

Don't move in with somebody who doesn't share your ideals on how the responsibility of keeping the house going should be split.

Stormtreader · 08/12/2016 15:05

Her ex husband looked after his daughter very well (I’ve not issue with that) financially – paid for really good prep school in London and there was an Amex for any of her needs which my ex was in control of

Shes been used to a certain standard of living, and expected to be able to continue in it, regardless of what it cost you to provide it.

Joysmum · 08/12/2016 15:12

Yep, you were a good meal ticket there for a while.

Be thankful she's not continuing to bleed you dry.

mickyblueyes · 08/12/2016 15:29

I'll be totally honest and say she was using you.

You sound like a good guy, perhaps too nice...Maybe like me, you sometimes find it hard to set firm boundaries, don't like saying no incase you hurt someones feelings.

I totally get letting someone you love go, it's hard, but in time you'll come to realise as someone else said "You've dodged a bullet there". Sorry to say but she's probably already onto her next victim.

Take some time and that hurting and pain will subside, learn a hard lesson, work on yourself and learn to set better boundaries in future.

Good luck.

Naicehamshop · 08/12/2016 18:52

OMG! She sounds monumentally selfish. Move on - never look back. You truly have dodged a bullet there.

FlouncedBack · 08/12/2016 19:15

You were right to finish it, you come across as a decent, caring man and sadly she took advantage of your decency. Try to build your self esteem up and not torture yourself with doubts. Good luck

PollytheDolly · 08/12/2016 19:34

You're better off without.

OohhThatsMe · 08/12/2016 19:40

If the sexes were reversed, she'd be called a cocklodger.

You were useful to her, OP, sorry. You gave her the lifestyle she wanted, that's all. It's really horrible and you deserved so much more.

What did she get out of you as a settlement?

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