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Finally left EA husband. Have I made a mistake?

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Tangledfairy · 18/11/2016 21:33

Hi - long time lurker and I really hope someone with a similar experience can help me. Sorry this is so long.

A bit of background. For many years now I have been unhappy in my 20 year marriage. My DH is basically a good man but very controlling. He is a classic Mr Right from Lundy Bancroft's book and Mr Power from "Too Good to Leave, too bad to stay". For example, opens my mail, rushes to pick up my mobile and refuses to hand it over until he has read the latest messages, our email accounts were all linked so nothing was private there (although I could read his too), continually makes digs about my weight as I have been 2.5 stone overweight for years, my cooking is never up to scratch, he puts me down a lot and tells me I am stupid. He is constantly moaning about life in general and me in particular.

There is anger bubbling under the surface all the time which flares up during the day over trivial things, and he totally overreacts to every unimportant little thing, eg someone spilling something or breaking a cup. He makes a problem where there isn't one. He also belittles people and can be quite a bully. His brothers always talk about their unhappy childhood with their very strict father and their unemotional, cold mother. He doesn't seem to remember any of this, although his mother said he got the worst of his father's beatings as he was the eldest.

I have dreamed of leaving him for years when he is being nasty, but then things settle down, but never lasts. I have tried to discuss things in the past (about 15 years ago when we were going through a bad patch) and he got quite threatening, so that's why I didn't discuss things before I left, as he refuses to. He won't even discuss going on anti depressants (either ignores me or snaps 'No') as I believe they have helped him in the past.

He does have a lot of good points, really good with the grandchildren, plays with them and takes them for walks and to the park etc. Always willing to give anyone a lift or help anyone with anything. He says he likes helping people. He has been a hard worker over the years and worked long hours, but he loved his job. He is now retired.

There have been many many instances of his nastiness over the years - so uncaring, unaffectionate, rude, hurtful, and the final straw was his lack of emotional support when my mother died a few weeks ago. Not even a hug or commiseration on her death when he returned home. He was really unpleasant and was saying things like he might not come to the funeral, or not come in the funeral car with the family, as he had fallen out with my father on holiday. This was the final push for me to go. With all the sadness it was extra stress I didn't need. In actual fact he did come to the funeral and after that things did Improve for a couple of weeks, but everything for my move had already been set in motion by then.

I am 59 now with limited mobility and so leaving was a huge decision. I found a little house to rent and gradually moved smaller stuff in, and then on a day when he was out, a few weeks ago, I hired a removal company to move a bed and sofa. My family all helped me settle in and after a week everything looked great.

The moving day was very traumatic, my stomach was churning and I had a lump in my throat that wouldn't go away. My husband rang when he got home that evening, but unfortunately before he had read the email I had sent him. We had a long conversation and he was reasonably calm, but got angry towards the end and hung up. After the initial euphoria wore off, I started to doubt my decision.

A week later I was toying with the idea of going round to the house to talk to him and discuss the reasons for leaving more fully, but then I had a voicemail from MIL's carer saying was everything OK as she couldn't get in touch with DH. That got me worried, as in spite of all the nastiness I wouldn't want anything to happen to him. So I went round and he let me in. We started talking and he was absolutely distraught. I've never seen anyone so upset. Said his head felt as though it was going to explode and he couldn't stay in the house alone. He had joined about five social groups and had been out on three meet ups in that first week.

We talked all afternoon and he really wanted me to come back and promised to try and control his anger. He said I don't show him any affection, which is true, because he is always angry with me. We don't touch or kiss or cuddle at all and haven't for years. If, after a month, I didn't think he had changed in that respect then he would go to counselling or we would both go. I found during that talk that I did want to come back and try again, but I think my decision was partly influenced by seeing him so upset and by guilt at the way I sneaked away. I also missed my lovely comfortable home that we have built up over the years. Anyway I've been back a week now and things have been OK, but obviously he is on his best behaviour and I am trying to be more affectionate. I did used to be really affectionate to him, but gradually stopped after all the hurtful things he did and said.

So my problem is have I made the right decision to come back. I've signed a six month tenancy for the new house, taken on a broadband contract, arranged utilities etc. and spent quite a bit of money on furniture, and all my family have spent time helping me get settled. They didn't think it was a good idea to go back to him so quickly as they know what he is like. He is their DSF not DF. During the week I've been back home there have been several digs about the money I have wasted, and how it would have paid for two holidays. He has stood back and let me pay for two food shops and a meal out, and I've seen him bite words back a couple of times. Also during the initial talk my weight was mentioned again. My weight is a big thing for him.

I feel so torn. My life will be easier financially if I come back, but it wasn't just the anger, there were so many other things that wore me down. I couldn't face another twenty years of the life I was living, the feeling of being on edge in case he insulted someone (which he would call just joking) and the damage to my self esteem.

I welcome your advice and thoughts on what a disaster I have made of things. Has anyone had a partner like this who changed. According to the self help books a 'Mr Power' does not usually change. My rented house is still waiting for me if I want to go back.

OP posts:
Anniegetyourgun · 19/11/2016 05:42

So he gets you back, and in order for him to start behaving like a decent human being towards you after 20 years the first condition is that you have to start showing more affection - am I reading that backwards or is it, in fact, totally arse about face? Then he tells you you have a month after which you will kindly be allowed to have counselling together (which, as someone pointed out earlier, is not recommended where there is emotional abuse). You must be very much out of the habit of making any decisions for yourself if you allow yourself to be dictated, er, I mean persuaded back into the marital home for more of the same, albeit a little less blatant.

You mention a couple of nice things he does but really, they only prove he isn't an out-and-out bastard in every respect. If he were there's no way you'd have done a couple of decades under the thumb.

Atenco · 19/11/2016 05:52

It is hard to be alone after living with and caring for someone else for such a long time, OP, so maybe you should join some social groups too. But I think you are on a hide onto nothing expecting him to change. Get back to your own place and be prepared for it being hard to adjust, but that seems a lot better than spending the rest of your life being his whipping boy

pklme · 19/11/2016 07:46

It's no longer your job to worry about how he is. Move out and let him manage himself. He can't be nice even when he is on best behaviour. He's not 'great with the grandkids'- he treats their grandma badly.
If you can manage to look after yourself, then so can he.

It isn't in him to be different, or he already would be.

Go home OP, to your home where you can live without his criticism and selfishness.

Toffeelatteplease · 19/11/2016 08:09

you've been conditioned to respond to his emotional cues, needs and desire without regard for your own.

The over the top emotional response on his part is to ensure you comply. You've given him quite a fright proving you can still act and think independently.

You are being punished for your choice to leave. This punishment will become more punitive the more secure he becomes. You proved you could gather together the finances to get out. You won't find yourself in that position again, you will end up paying for more and more so there is never enough in your bank account to do so.

You will also slowly find yourself separated from those who helped you move. It will be done very nicely you will be too busy with him or on holiday with him to spend time with them.

People can tell you what you need to do but you either will do it or you won't. But you need to know from an outside perspective, even now nothing is saying his is being good. And that in itself is confusing because you are expecting him to be good and outwardly it appears like a man bereft, but his behaviour isn't. and you are confused because I think somewhere deep down you recognise the discrepancy and the risk.

He is just strengthening his choke hold on you.

ChuckGravestones · 19/11/2016 08:22

He really is dreadful love. He cannot keep a lid on it and in the first week, was so distraught he went out on 3 meetups?

I had a voicemail from MIL's carer saying was everything OK as she couldn't get in touch with DH. That got me worried, as in spite of all the nastiness I wouldn't want anything to happen to him.

That was his cunning plan. It's what abusers do when their prey is not responding, playing dead in the hope that you will be so worried that you come running.

Please leave him again, go to your new home and have a good life. Not an excuse for one.

Piglet208 · 19/11/2016 08:30

He is still controlling you. Has he actually acknowledged the pain he has caused you? Sounds like he is unable to stop the insults as he has already mentioned your weight. His distress was just another way of manipulating you. I bet when you read through this thread, seeing it in black and white, it will help you realise that if you want to change your life and have a chance of happiness then you need to leave. For good.

Tangledfairy · 19/11/2016 12:23

Thank you so much to everyone who took the time to post. The verdict seems pretty unanimous! You have given me a lot to think about, and many of the comments are reinforcing some of my own thoughts. Thank you all again.

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OnTheEdgeOfItAll · 19/11/2016 12:46

What Chuck said, that was classic manipulation. Go back to your little haven, and change your mobile number. Set up a new email and don't look back.
You don't need contact with him, deflect him to your solicitor. It will take a while for you to relax properly and be genuinely happy. It will be so worth it though.

pklme · 19/11/2016 15:32

Tangledfairy, FlowersFlowersFlowersFlowers
Enjoy your new start, I love your username!

rememberthetime · 19/11/2016 17:31

I also left my EA husband in recent weeks - but the option to return has never been there. I made sure of that. I knew that if he thought it might be on the cards he would try to suck me in again. As it happens he did the classic controlling man thing and also started looking for a new woman asap.
I understand why you went back - because moving out of your family home is massive. You leave them with the comfortable life, with the house you own, with all the things you helped to buy and you have to start again. it is so hard. You want some of that back.
All I cna say is look at your boundaries. if he crosses any of them at any point it is clear that he isn't changing.
He needs to show clear signs of wanting to change - including attending an abusers course. If he refuses to accept his bad behaviour and make ammends, you have no relationship.

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