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I have just messaged five friends....

34 replies

stubbornstains · 23/10/2016 12:58

Two with voicemail/ text. Two with text. One via FB. Asking what they're doing today/ tomorrow? Not a single one has got back to me. Additionally, I messaged two or three the other day, trying to set up half term arrangements. We're meeting up with one on Tuesday, the other two are doing stuff but "might" be up for going out for a drink later in the week. Maybe. We were supposed to meet up with someone today, but she has just cancelled at the last minute.

I find this exhausting. I feel so lonely, isolated and down. I have just pretty much stopped contact with my (abusive) ex- we would hang out with each other and the kids, and it was company, but not sustainable in the long run. I didn't neglect my friends during this period, but didn't actively "try" to grow the friendships, but it's clear that if I don't get in touch with people, they don't get in touch with me.

I'm fairly sure I have AS. Other people seem to create and maintain friendships with such ease, but it's always been a struggle for me- just hard work. I try so hard to behave in the "right" way, and mimic other peoples' friendship behaviour, but it's a huge effort, to be honest.

I've felt lonely all my life, I would love to say that I've made steps forward, but don't know that I have really. I don't want to be like this for ever, but genuinely don't know what more I can do to make friends and not feel so lonely.

Could anybody talk me through it? Step by step, how do you grow a friendship? I seem to be fine up to the "wow, the kids get on great, let's meet up sometime" stage, but after that seem always to be chasing after people who are always busy. Or, at least, too busy for me Sad.

(sorry if I don't respond at once. I can hear DS2 screaming in the background, so will have to go and do lunch, then struggle through the afternoon, thinking of some kind of solitary "fun" activity to do with the kids while I'm screaming inside).

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messeduptotally · 23/10/2016 14:42

FWIW I'm newly divorced and all mutual 'friends' have deserted me for him.
So I have noone!

Groovee · 23/10/2016 14:48

I do try to respond when people get in touch. But sometimes I can't answer right away as hubby is home to ask or whatever.

I kept texting a friend earlier in the year and she never replied. I got fed up of being ignored and when I saw her face to face mentioned it and she denied all knowledge. But 3 of our group told me she kept bitching about me texting. So I have stopped completely contacting her now.

Mabelface · 23/10/2016 16:13

Same as justaboy and messeduptotally. Why do mutual friends do that? Neither of us expected anyone to take sides!

stubbornstains · 23/10/2016 21:05

Well, three people have got back to me, which is nice- two with affectionate messages but they're away, and one's coming round tomorrow morning, which will be lovely. (Except that I also dropped in on a neighbour, with the excuse of returning her plastic cheetah (it's a long story), and she also was talking about coming round tomorrow morning, so we go from the sublime to the ridiculous here! If they all come at the same time, there will be 9 children in the house, and rain or no, I'll make everybody put their wellies on and come down the park PDQ!).

The one that's coming round also invited me to come to an event with a group of friends on Saturday, which is lovely. I did mention to one of them that I was interested, but didn't hear back from her, so feared that they thought I was being presumptuous, but no, the message was slowly percolating through...Smile.

So, I suppose the moral of the story is that if you DO persist and contact EVERYBODY, then you will finally find someone up for doing something! (awkward and tricky as the arrangements may end up being....).

But it's an effort. Even if it's not me then, it seems that the way we live and organise our lives today just makes it difficult for us to connect. As a PP said, it's difficult to spend enough time with anyone to create a strong bond. I shall keep trying, because I don't know what the alternative is- isolation I suppose Sad.

I'm on a waiting list for some counselling at the moment, and want to do a bit of work on my insecurities around people, and the speed at which I jump to negative conclusions....

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iseenodust · 23/10/2016 21:14

You have friends with manners ! They have replied same day. Enjoy tomorrow.

stubbornstains · 23/10/2016 21:17

Ooh, I've just had a look at meetup.com. It wasn't as sad and nerdy as I imagined bloody eeyore. I did get irritated at its trying to get me to narrow my interests down;- "I live in the rural South West FFS, show me ALL my local groups, I can bet you they'll fit on the one page!" , but one or two groups did sound as if they might be my cup of tea.

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stubbornstains · 23/10/2016 21:21

I have some friends with manners, iseenodust, some of them have got back to me.....However, I know that I'm totally capable of not getting back to people- when I'm feeling OK Blush. This is a discrepancy that I'm whole heartedly trying to correct- how would I necessarily know when a chatty text from someone is actually them having a really crap day and reaching out? Perhaps if I always replied to peoples' texts my friendship networks would be that much stronger!

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AndieNZ · 23/10/2016 21:30

I hear you! I've moved all over the UK and emigrated abroad for 7years and then back to the UK.

As a result, I've lost touch with most of my friends along the way. Due to the many relocations around the country growing up, it's meant that I don't have lifelong friends except for a couple that don't live nearby.

After coming back to the UK, DH and I found it was really hard to form friendships. Neighbours tend to keep themselves to themselves and going to the gym isn't really the place to strike up conversations due to everyone wearing earphones!

At work, there aren't many people my age. They are either really young or a lot older. Also people tend to assume that I have a big friendship circle, which I don't! I just don't shout about the fact that I dont have many friends!
I joined a local meet up group. However as I am married it was difficult as it was a mixed group, and DH, although understanding my need to form friendships with likewise women, wasn't happy so I left the group.

I can't really give you any advice as I am feeling a bit like Billy No Mates myself but why not check out if there are any local meet up groups?

spankhurst · 23/10/2016 21:36

I think a lot of people (many more than you'd think) secretly feel similar to you. On paper I have quite a few pals, some of them from decades back, but still feel the odd one out, on the fringe of things, much of the time.

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