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Is it possible to repair a, currently sexless, relationship where all the respect has gone?

45 replies

Seacatses · 20/09/2016 13:12

I have been thinking about leaving my DH for a while. Since before the wedding I am sad to say. I shouldn’t have gone through with it but had this idea that ‘everything will be alright’. We’ve been together 8 years and married 5.

We argue all the time. I feel he doesn’t pull his weight, mainly in the sense of ‘life admin’. Housework we share more or less equally these days but it took a long time of ‘nagging’, arguing, begging and pleading. When something needs to be done, e.g. pay a bill, make an appointment etc. either I do it, or I ask him to do it. If I decide to do it, it gets done. If I ask him to do it, it either doesn’t or eventually it does, after many reminders. He often lies when I ask him if he’s done something, or denies that I asked him to do it. He also never sees things that need doing. He will open post and it will stay on the table for days. It doesn’t take long to file things away and/or to put stuff in the recycling surely? But he won’t do it unless I ask. Every. Single. Time.

Over the years he has gotten (much) better but I feel like I’ve gradually lost respect for him. I feel resentful that I have had to teach him to do stuff that he should know how to do. I mean how hard is it to put washing in the laundry basket. He can’t even fold a towel, or wipe a surface properly. How can I respect a man who behaves like a child? We haven’t had sex for 2 years. The thought of even kissing him makes my stomach turn. I also stopped finding him attractive years ago. It wasn’t helped by the fact I like to keep fit and for years, he didn’t. He is fit(ter) now, years later but the attraction just isn’t there anymore. He’s just very lazy and laid back and I guess I’m anxious and neurotic. He feels that he can’t do anything right. He hates the way I speak to him, and so do I. I am becoming a person I hate. I say horrible things, call him horrible names. I fear I am chipping away at his confidence but I can’t stop getting angry with him because he’s just so useless a lot of the time :( And even if he does loads, these days I will find the one thing he hasn’t done and go mental. Everything is coloured by past experiences. We have huge problems. We tried counselling and it didn’t help.

Context: we are both in our mid-thirties, both have busy jobs, a mortgage and no kids. He is actually a really decent guy and probably does loads compared to other DHs. But I don’t know how we can come back from all the hate, resentment and awful things that have been said (on both sides). DH doesn’t want to separate, and neither do I really as I do love him and we have the same outlook on life, the same sense of humour, agree on most things, and want to do lots of travelling together. Together we have enough money to do these things, if we got divorced we’d have to sell the house and it would be a lot harder for me to do all the travelling I want to do. But I am too young to live in a sexless, hateful marriage. Both of us are. I just wish I could relax and accept him for who he is, and start having sex with him again. I feel so angry and upset at myself that I have become this horrible person who can’t stop criticising her DH. Are we doomed?

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Seacatses · 20/09/2016 14:37

Btw I'm sorry to hear you are going through such a hard time JeanGenie23 Flowers

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JeanGenie23 · 20/09/2016 14:40

Oh thanks seacatses, everyone does from time to time don't they! Smile nothing that a bit of talking, some wine and the odd pill won't fix hahaha

JeanGenie23 · 20/09/2016 14:42

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Seacatses · 20/09/2016 14:48

JeanGenie23 Grin

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MrsTerryPratchett · 20/09/2016 14:50

Contempt is one of the biggest indicators of future divorce. And you feel contempt for him.

However, if you think that your feelings and how you express them is directly related to your mother, seek help. Work through some of this. Because there is no way of knowing whether:

a) You are a borderline abusive, controlling nightmare and his inability to do tasks is is his passive aggressive way of trying to get power back. The lack of sex is your emotionally abusive withholding OR

b) He's a bloody useless, gaslighting, lazy wanker who has driven you to total contempt. Your lack of sex comes from him acting like a child and therefore being completely unattractive OR

c) a little from column a) a little from column b).

And with your childhood it may be that you can't unpick that without help.

Athyrium · 20/09/2016 15:02

Try counselling/therapy yourself. It is very possible that at least some of your anger is historical and perhaps you can work through it and so take some of the pressure off at home. I think relationships can be salvaged, I know people (including myself) who have gone through periods of really doubting their marriage and even feeling they hate their partner at times, that to me is fairly normal. Things seem to settle down again in time. But you sound a bit like you need to get stuff off your chest, and doing so with a counsellor rather than your husband may well help.

AnchorDownDeepBreath · 20/09/2016 15:13

It's done, I think. You are both holding out for something that you used to have, before you were married, when you lived apart most of the time and didn't wind each other up. Before the resentment, the contempt. It's the sunken cost fallacy. You're throwing away your futures for your past.

There isn't a saveable aspect here. There's no part of this that is right, that you can build on. Maybe there was, once upon a time, but there's not. It's been two years since you last resented him little enough to have sex with him. Two years of constant contempt.

Neither of you will want to split because of sunken costs, and fear of the unknown, and this loveless, sexless marriage is now your normal.

If you split for a year, and then reviewed, do you think either of you would chose to get back together?

Lottapianos · 20/09/2016 15:14

I absolutely agree with the suggestions of counselling for yourself. I had an abusive mother (and father) too - it messes you up in ways you don't always realise at the time. Nothing magically becomes better when you become an adult, and the feelings you carry with you can be extremely hard to unpick. Professional support with that would be absolutely invaluable to you

Ilikegin · 20/09/2016 15:20

Why don't you sit him down explain how you feel, maybe not quite as bluntly as you have here! But mention everything, including the sex. Give him a time limit for major change for both of you, say six months or a year, whatever you'd feel comfortable with.

Book a holiday to make a start on the travel you both want to do, make an itinerary together and see if the excitement of this helps.

I think the difficulty will be in getting the sexual attraction back, maybe start small, touching, hand holding, kissing morning and goodnight if you have stopped doing these things (I'm guessing) then go out on a date night get all dressed up have a few drinks to help loosen you both up and take it from there, don't put pressure on it but I think if it doesn't work in the next few months please don't waste another five years of your lives not being happy, you both deserve more!

HuskyLover1 · 20/09/2016 15:26

We haven’t had sex for 2 years. The thought of even kissing him makes my stomach turn

I don't think you can come back from that, I'm afraid. There are Billions of men on this planet. I know you're married, but I think that sticking with him, when you could quite easily divorce and find someone else....well, I think it's bonkers.

eatsleephockeyrepeat · 20/09/2016 15:26

This is going to sound terrible but perhaps one of the few things that can resuscitate a relationship that looks dead to all and sundry but might still have some love pumping away in there somewhere... is to go ahead and break up. There's nothing like trying to tear apart your relationship to make you both value the hell out of it all over again.

I don't say that flippantly, I say that as someone who was in an extremely similar (yes, sexless) marriage where so much water was under the bridge I didn't know if we could ever fix it. And you know what, the divorce almost wiped the slate clean.... and then it didn't. But it another world it could have done - it nearly did!

If all else fails...

eatsleephockeyrepeat · 20/09/2016 15:27

This is going to sound terrible but perhaps one of the few things that can resuscitate a relationship that looks dead to all and sundry but might still have some love pumping away in there somewhere... is to go ahead and break up. There's nothing like trying to tear apart your relationship to make you both value the hell out of it all over again.

I don't say that flippantly, I say that as someone who was in an extremely similar (yes, sexless) marriage where so much water was under the bridge I didn't know if we could ever fix it. And you know what, the divorce almost wiped the slate clean.... and then it didn't. But it another world it could have done - it nearly did!

If all else fails...

Seacatses · 20/09/2016 16:16

Thanks all very much for your input. We're going to have to make a decision one way or another and you've given me lots of food for thought. I very much hope that a year from now things will be very different, whether we split up or not.

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Purplebluebird · 20/09/2016 16:18

Oh, Seacatses, this doesn't sound like a good situation for you at all :(
I really can't see how you're going to fix it. Try to get some time apart, if you miss each other lots - then it's worth trying to fix it. If you don't miss him, perhaps not.

leaveittothediva · 20/09/2016 17:28

So you want to be happy. Good. But, you can't make yourself fancy him. If you really don't, then please stop talking with him about the sex you don't have and that you can't force yourself to do. Sex isn't something to be endured. Can you live in a sexless marriage?. Decide this before going forward, I'm not blaming you, but you didn't want to marry him, he doesn't do things to your standards, to kiss him would turn your stomach.You sound very controlling to me and you are treating him like your PA. The way you have worded this in my opinion, is that you'd love to take off traveling, while your little PA stays at home and does the life and house admin and doesn't rock your financial boat. You'd check in from time to time with him to make sure he was doing things to your exacting standards.if this scenario sounds in any way attractive to you, your marriage is probably doomed. If I've annoyed you, with that suggestion, we're getting somewhere, you care, and a salvage operation can begin. You have huge advantages to some of us, just the two of you, finances at your disposal, no exhaustion from children to consider, huge pluses in my opinion. Counseling didn't work. Try sex therapy, it may help. I wish you luck.

Beebeeeight · 20/09/2016 17:56

To stay with him so you can travel in 2 1/2 years is crazy IMO.

adora1 · 20/09/2016 18:01

Just call it a day, sometimes there's no fixing these things, you both sound fundamentally different anyway, and fuck the money for travelling, stand on your own two feet and do it yourself, don't stay for materialistic reasons when you clearly don't even want the person.

category12 · 20/09/2016 18:22

You sound like you're being a horrible person - I'm sure you don't want to be, but you can't seem to break the pattern you two have formed together. It's too far gone between the two of you, you're verbally abusing him and belittling him. That's emotional abuse, you know.

Do the right thing and break up with him, rebuild your lives separately, find someone you don't have all this anger for.

hermione2016 · 20/09/2016 18:55

He will open post and it will stay on the table for days. It doesn’t take long to file things away and/or to put stuff in the recycling surely? But he won’t do it unless I ask. Every. Single. Time

Do you have a job where you expect everything to done immediately? Your criticism of him does feel very aggressive. He doesn't meet your high standards but who is say those standards are correct? . You say you love him yet no one could feel loved if you are constantly criticising. I suspect your childhood has impacted you as it isn't 'normal' to have this level of contempt for a partner.

I doubt you will find anyone who will satisfy your requirements all of the time so it's vital you develop healthy conflict resolution skills. Also don't sweat the small stuff, paperwork on the side for a few days isn't something to be deeply stressed about, can you let some things go?

SortingStuffStill · 20/09/2016 19:08

Think you're asking qu to which you already know answer. Contempt, sexless,? Not judging (been there too) but get out asap. Am in same boat and regret meeting him. And staying so long! Since realised whst chemistry is (important glue( and how toxic we were. Get out, seriously!

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