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Can't move on from sexting

49 replies

user1472925240 · 07/09/2016 15:24

I'm sorry for this very long post in advance, and it might be a bit garbled. I am desperate for advice as I can't talk to anyone and I don't have anyone else's input on this at all, I'm driving myself mad.

I have been with DH for 9 years. Met online. Been married for 7 years and have four kids, one who is 12 from a previous relationship, she calls him Dad and he has raised her. I moved miles away from home to be with him, new job, lost friends, grew away from family, etc.

A few weeks ago I found out that he used Skype to chat to women on the Internet. Our eldest daughter had found the messages on his phone early this year - he begged her not to tell me, and told her the messages were from years ago. Apparently he was deleting the apps when she just happened upon the messages (she uses his phone for Youtube or whatever.) The messages I found when I looked were from early last year.

He says he was looking for advice on how to deal with teenagers one night when I wasn't here and "one thing led to another" - I saw some messages on my laptop skype history, "drunk and horny" - that type of thing. He says he was looking at their cameras, he didn't have his on, he just sent pictures. He had also downloaded KIK messenger and chatted to girls on there and swapped pictures. He said he did it just three times, but of course he is only going to tell me what I found out myself.

When I first found out, he swore they were from years ago, before we met and that he downloaded the apps again to delete the pictures and messages. It went a few days and then I found the history and it was more recent, last year like I said. (sorry I'm waffling.)

Anyway, I'm absolutely devastated. I've told him I'll stay until Christmas, see if I feel any better. I run over it all in my head and I feel like the relationship is lost - how can I trust him again? I have had issues in the past with trust (he knows about it) and I could never see myself trusting anyone again because I was so damaged from before, and yet he has still done this to me. I can't believe it, and I can't get my head around it. There was also another weird incident - I found a used condom in the (clean) washing ages ago. I called him and went mad, and he said he had no idea where it had come from. We both laughed it off and assumed it had come from the back garden, maybe someone had walked it in, or it had got caught on the washing from the back garden from next door chucking it over or whatever. I thought we were both genuinely confused by it and it was a silly thing but now it doesn't seem so innocent.

He is gutted too. All we've done is cry and he can't believe he has done this to me. He promises that he is telling the truth now, the whole truth and he has genuinely been trying to make things better. He said he must have been mad to do it, etc etc. He says it was just three times and he knew it was wrong after the third time and stopped doing it, deleted the apps and then he downloaded them to delete the stuff, and that's when our daughter found them.

We're trying to move on. We have young kids, finances are tied - I do love him and I trusted him with my life - this has been such a shock. At times I think I can move on and chalk it up to a mistake but I can't believe he would hurt me like this and I just break down at the thought of it.

Sorry for the long ramble. I am just desperate to tell someone, I can't tell anyone and I don't have anyone's advice except his - I just cry and feel so sad for what I feel we have lost. I don't know what to do to feel better. Will I ever feel better?

OP posts:
Eolian · 07/09/2016 16:29

Shock He blamed his disgusting behaviour on your dd? That alone is enough reason to LTB.

singleandfabulous · 07/09/2016 16:29

He bought her a pair of trainers to keep her quiet, and also insinuated that her wayward behaviour had led him to stray.

That would be it for me I'm afraid. Trying to put the blame for his apalling behaviour onto your daughter is just the lowest of the low.

Buzzardbird · 07/09/2016 16:29

He sounds worse with every post OP.

Doing that to your child is worse than the betrayal.

adora1 · 07/09/2016 16:30

And the condom - more proof that he's actually had sex.

You must get yourself an STI check now.

BeMorePanda · 07/09/2016 16:30

She kept it to herself for 4 months. I was gutted for her
My father did this to my 12 yo sister after she discovered his unsavoury ahem online behaviour - on a family computer.
I've never forgiven him for what he was prepared to do to his daughter to cover his online nastiness. It damaged her, it damaged me and it certainly damaged him.

I doubt our relationship will ever recover - he really just thought we were all going to go "ah OK that's fine and you are right it really is none of our business". What an arsehole.

Its really sick twisted behaviour in my opinion - low low low! Fathers are meant to protect and nurture their children - not exploit and manipulate them.

Kikibanana86 · 07/09/2016 16:35

You should set a good example to your daughter and get rid of him.

DoinItFine · 07/09/2016 16:38

So this prick

1 exposed your daughter to pornographic imagery (this is a form of child sexual abuse BTW)

2 bribed her into keeping her exposure to inappropriate material a secret from her mother

3 blamed a 12 year old child for his "need" to involve himself in inappropriate sexual behaviour, to which she was now a witness

This man should be on the sex offenders register.

Not sharing a house with a 12 year old girl.

BeMorePanda · 07/09/2016 16:38

If you are finding it difficult to find strength for yourself, find strength for your daughter. You need to show her very clearly that what he did to her was completely unacceptable.

SlowJinn · 07/09/2016 16:58

You have to leave, forget counselling, forget trying to make do and mend your marriage. Leave him, go back to where you have friends and family. If that's impossible, chuck him out. Work on your self esteem, make some friends, everyone needs a support network and making friends isn't that difficult, not when you have children. Good luck with your new life.

normastits5 · 07/09/2016 16:59

Come on people can we please offer op some actual support now instead of ramming the horrible details home just in case she's not already painfully aware of it all?
I'm so sorry for you op , you are in shock and will be for a while. Look after yourself and when you feel stronger let the anger kick in & let him have it. What a complete shit!! In order to deal with this you must find strength and that will eventually come from anger. Use it to deal with him properly and love your self in meantime

magoria · 07/09/2016 17:04

OP I am not sure if anyone has said this.

You don't need to get over it.

The only reason to get over it is for yourself and to heal you. When you are ready to.

If you can never come back from this and his actions have destroyed your relationship that is fine.

You are allowed to think and feel about this how you do even if this varies from hour to hour. All your feelings are real and valid.

Buzzardbird · 07/09/2016 17:05

What condom adora?

notapizzaeater · 07/09/2016 17:13

Ask yourself if this was your daughters DH what would you want her yo do ? You need to show her that women are worth much more than this,

As for the blood money trainers - I'd leave him for that alone .

AyeAmarok · 07/09/2016 17:25

He's telling you the bare minimum he thinks he can get away with.

The 3 times is bullshit and insulting. The used condom, seems the most plausible story is that it was his.

And he really is crying because he was caught.

BubblingUp · 07/09/2016 17:31

My dad this to me. The daughter needs counseling now. This will mess with her head forever. You staying with him will mess with her further.

PamDooveOrangeJoof · 07/09/2016 17:32

I'm so sorry.

The used condom and blackmailing your daughter whilst blaming her are all unforgivable.

Please get an sti check. Are you married? Is house in both names? Rented?

You'd deserve far better and he's not crying for you he's crying for himself.

PamDooveOrangeJoof · 07/09/2016 17:32

If you stay you will enforce hour daughters view that his behaviour is acceptable

PickledCauliflower · 07/09/2016 17:33

I'm sorry that you are going through this x
His actions have been horrendous. The used condom in the washing machine tells you all you need to know.
I am appalled that he did not confess as soon as your daughter copped him. How dare he try to buy her silence and even blame her - that in itself is more than enough reason to get rid.
You will be better off without him, you really will. You can't live with the deceit, it will leave you in a constant state of anxiety. Your daughter must feel very uncomfortable (at best) after that x

adora1 · 07/09/2016 17:34

My mum showed me pics of my dad with OW when I was around 15 years old, nothing on the scale that your poor daughter had to witness but still awful, it stayed with me for years, I hated my dad and thought all men were pigs, show your daughter that women don't need to tolerate this and kick him out in front of her, she will thank you for it later and will do her self esteem a massive favour.

Backtoschoolyay · 07/09/2016 17:43

Ok even if what he says is true (it's not) do you want to be with a man who contacted women online three times? Even what he has admitted to would be enough for me to call it a day.

Add to that the condom rubbish and the way he has treated your young daughter (how mixed up must she be?) I don't see how you can get past it I'm afraid.

Cary2012 · 07/09/2016 17:51

I know how scared and vulnerable you are OP.

I'm sorry you are going through this.

Personally, I wouldn't be able to move on with this, because I would never trust him again, on many levels.

Obviously, the online stuff on it's own could be a deal breaker.

The condom, well, I take it the washing was on the line, you got it in and a used condom, somehow had been thrown over your garden and just happened to get in the dry laundry you brought in? Nope, don't buy that for a minute. His reaction, his anger at this, screams guilt.

Perhaps you could get through this.

The thing I could never forgive is his treatment of your daughter, by the man she calls dad. I wouldn't want a man capable of pleading with my daughter, to keep his dirty little secret anywhere near her, or me. She should never, ever have been put in this position.

Your anxiety will keep rearing its head, because deep down you know this situation is so wrong on so many levels.

So, how can you move on?

You dig deep, get strong, tell him to stop crying (which is due to being caught) and tell him you need space. Ask him to move out, whilst you sort out what you want.

If he has a shred of decency, he will agree because he will see that this is necessary for you to decide if there is a future.

Forget about giving it till Christmas. Your daughter must not blame herself ever. She was put in an impossible position and for her sake alone, he needs to go.

You need space to clear your head, and see how you feel. You might feel better. But you cannot go on living like this.

Take control. If he genuinely wants you, he will move heaven and earth to get you back. So you need space to decide if you want him, and if you do, on what terms.

Ineedmorelemonpledge · 07/09/2016 17:52

I'm sorry op but what he did to your daughter is pretty unforgivable. Essentially it's a form of blackmail. And blaming her for his foul behaviour. Sick.

I couldn't look him in the eye.

springydaffs · 07/09/2016 18:53

He bought her a pair of trainers to keep her quiet, and also insinuated that her wayward behaviour had led him to stray. (She can be a handful at times.)

Is that what I just read? I could barely believe it and had to read it again to be sure.

Nope, op. This is not a good man. He put all that sleaze on his own daughter?? That is beyond the pale.

Plus it's certain this sordid behaviour will happen again. Your shaking indicates your 'gut' knows the enormity and extent of what he's done and what he's about. I have to agree he is sorry he was caught.

I'm so sorry Flowers Flowers

LunaJuna · 07/09/2016 18:55

Sorry to hear that OP.
Don't feel under pressure to make a decision - you didn't cause this situation!
Personally, texting is not ok but it wouldn't be a marriage breaker if everything else in the relationship was working for me ( but then I often get criticised over my liberal views...) . Dragging your daughter into this is a bigger issue IMO.

This is a crisis and there's no easy choice

If you wanna patch things up and if he's genuinely sorry and willing to make it up to you and your daughter, put a lot of effort, the relationship can be salvaged .

But if the marriage wasn't really that great or if you don't think he's not willing to change patch , then separate- you got the opportunity !

Whatever you decide to do, no one has the right to judge you

Take care of yourself and DD. Wishing you all the best Flowers

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