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Please help me remain strong!

48 replies

ohwhatsinausername · 04/09/2016 21:06

Lots of lovely advice in past from other mumsnetters but help needed again.

ExP left me pregnant for OW. Baby is now few months old. All doing fine etc. Both toddler and new baby spend time with him. Been hard like any breakup would, this was more challenging but got over it all eventually. Just want whats best for kids etc.

Problems with child maintenance have resulted in me going to CMS, after he told me "just go through CSA"

My situation now is that I'm moving, 20 minutes away, to be closer to my family and I know he is going to argue with this. He has parental rights, on both birth certs.

I've researched all the reasons, lower crime, better school etc and it's a fresh start (currently still in rented house we shared) which if it helps me mentally, can only help the kids.

Right now, we only live 5 minutes away from each other but he knows I can't afford to stay in this house. I applied for council housing and was told it would take 6+ months to be rehoused, so I intended on talking it all through with him.

However, two weeks later, they found me a place and if I didn't take it, I would have lost it and it was a good house! So we never had time to discuss it properly (although he knew it was a long term plan, ages ago)

I drive and have told him that when I move, I will see to it that I transport the kids to him (they'd be in their car seats, which to me is safer than sitting loose in a taxi or buses) so effectively nothing is going to change for him, other than where I'm living.

He's never dropped in on the kids and is usually cancelling dates to see them anyway, so I don't really know what the problem is because it's still classed as the same City!

But he is a difficult character (narc) with only his own interests at heart and often starts unnecessary drama with me.

I know he is going to throw "court" at me and allsorts but I'm not changing any arrangement we have in place now!

Please help me how to respond to him with dignity, when he starts accusing me of taking his kids away from him. I'm trying not to drag feelings of him walking away from them whilst I was pregnant, as his choice to do that but I'm getting annoyed he thinks he can start over and I'm just expected to stay round here to benefit him.

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Tmi0722 · 07/09/2016 15:04

Has he done that through the solicitor or just asked

OrsonWellsHat · 07/09/2016 15:09

Has he gone through the courts?

ohwhatsinausername · 07/09/2016 15:14

He hasn't said. At the minute it just seems like his demands due to these Parental Responsibilities he knows he's got. He's arguing it's his right to have her now

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OrsonWellsHat · 07/09/2016 15:35

Tell him he needs to go to court. Three months is too young, also is baby ebf? If so, she can't leave you.

Tmi0722 · 07/09/2016 15:36

Yes he does have parental responsibilities to both children an unfortunately if it is through the court they will accept that he has the baby over night but at the same time you could be as akward an say he has to pick up an drop off at a convenient time for you if he is asking just explain you are not ready to let the baby stay over night just yet as their too young

hellsbellsmelons · 07/09/2016 15:37

Ignore him for now.
Are you breast feeding?
If so then he has no leg to stand on right now.
Tell him to take you to court!

OrsonWellsHat · 07/09/2016 15:39

I don't know the law on this, hopefully someone more knowledgeable will come along.

ohwhatsinausername · 07/09/2016 16:00

No I couldn't breast feed. He knows this and has thrown it back at me

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OrsonWellsHat · 07/09/2016 16:24

Sounds like you need proper legal advice.

hellsbellsmelons · 07/09/2016 16:29

You are well rid of that one.
Throwing back at you that you can't breastfeed!
He's a cock!
I think legal advice might be good.
Call Womens Aid as he sounds like an abusive prick.
They can give you local solicitor numbers for dealing with dick-heads.

ohwhatsinausername · 07/09/2016 18:16

I don't think I can do this anymore! =(

Obviously I want what's best for the kids and as their Dad, I know he will do them no harm, even if he has blobbed on them before!

But I don't think I have the mental capacity anymore to deal with him...I've tried and I've tried.

I never wanted it to be a war...but it feels like he's won. Sorry for sounding so dramatic. I'm done.

I sit here and look at my beautiful children and want to cry...because I don't have the energy to fight for them anymore and what am I fighting against? I wish this whole situation never happened!

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RandomMess · 07/09/2016 18:26

Well if you trust him not to harm the DC, call his bluff - just ensure he has both DC together and enjoy the night off...

He is doing this to bully and intimidate you. As soon as he gets whiff of you wanting to have the DC overnight so you can go out Wink watch him backtrack.

However, long term what do you think he wants/will do? Will he get bored and disappear, is it just to bully, just to control?

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Cary2012 · 07/09/2016 18:48

You need to appoint a solicitor. Of course you feel overwhelmed.

If you haven't already get advice from CAB, go there. They can point in the direction of a local family law solicitor, who may offer a free initial session.

He's being an idiot, threatening court at the drop of a hat. But you do need legal advice and will be much better when you've talked it all through.

Good luck

ohwhatsinausername · 07/09/2016 18:50

Long term...I have no idea...I could guess!

Right now I know he is doing this to bully and control and said as much...there's been no need for any of this.

I just hope now that he has his kids when he is supposed to, doesn't cancel on them and pays in accordance with CMS.

I might not like or agree with my children being away from me, it was hard enough to accept with the oldest let alone a baby but at least I will have time to go out and get my life back, like you say!

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hellsbellsmelons · 07/09/2016 18:52

You can do this and you will get through it.
As a PP said you could call his bluff and get yourself a night off.
One night with OW and 2 kids will have him running for the hills.
Please do call women's aid
They will help you.
0808 2000 247.
You've nothing to lose!

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aLeopardanditsSpots · 07/09/2016 18:55

I've read your other threads. Honestly you can do this you have got through the worst once you get in the new house things will be better. Keep going you are amazing and doing fantastic.
The guy is an absolute prick of the highest order. Although a prick usually comes with a set of balls and he hasn't even got that. He is a weak little controlling coward who could only dream of having your strength and dignity. Or of being the sort of parent you have proved yourself to be.
I would bet my bottom dollar that he hasn't submitted an order to the court, and if he has no one will stop you moving 20 mins away. He's a moron. My sons dad lives 20 mins away. Still gets here every week. My work is 20 mins away guess what I manage to get there and back 5 days a week.

As for him getting over nights at this stage, he won't, let him go through court.
If he's a narc you need to go very low contact. Also known as grey rock. Lots of articles online about how to do it and dealing with narcs.
I've dealt with one myself, split up around the same time as you, feel free to pm me if you want any advice regarding that side of it. Might be able to direct you to other online support if you feel it would help. It's been invaluable to me x

RandomMess · 07/09/2016 19:12

I don't expect that court will take any notice of the prohibitive steps order either - it is still so close!

ohwhatsinausername · 07/09/2016 19:18

I don't think he's had any legal advice or whatever advice he's had, he knows he wouldn't get far...

It feels to me like he's trying to back me into a corner so I take him to court (knowing this is paid for, as I'd get legal aid) and then he could represent himself for free and hope he wins but even if he didn't, it would be satisfying for him to know how much more stress he has put me under. He sickens me!

The kids are both asleep, I'm opening the wine! =(

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Dollius01 · 07/09/2016 19:24

Your ex is a complete idiot. Of course you can move 20 minutes away.

And don't you DARE offer to do all the transport. All you have to do is make the children available. He can bloody well come to you.

And although I know it is heart wrenching, I would consider letting him have the baby overnight and just see how well he gets on with that...

aLeopardanditsSpots · 07/09/2016 19:26

He sickens me too op.
Don't take him to court. Why would you need to? Let him take you to court. As you have no intention of stopping him having reasonable and consistent contact with the children you have nothing to fear and nothing to take him to court over.
Classic narc behaviour to treat the people who loved you like shit you've stepped I'm then go on like they did something wrong.
Just remember he's the shit in this situation and you have done nothing wrong!

ohwhatsinausername · 07/09/2016 19:50

I don't think anyone's going to court. I just can't do it. I've dealt with enough and it's only prolonging the inevitable...even if it put a halt on things now, I'd only have to have the same discussions again at some point.

I'll be ok tomorrow when I've picked myself up and dusted myself off again.

For tonight, I'm gonna sit and cry over how deluded I was to waste several years of my life with this arsehole, who stole my vision of a perfect family and is lording it over me, without so much as a backwards glance. I know I'm well shot but the pain of how he can be so cold...

Tomorrow is another day. Onwards and upwards.

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OrsonWellsHat · 07/09/2016 20:29

That's the spirit op, enjoy your Wine and imagine his dick turning black and falling off.

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