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Taking flirting too far?

45 replies

user1472636564 · 31/08/2016 10:53

Hi.
I started a new account as I post on MN occasionally.
Some views on this please.
I’ve been with my partner for a year, we’re very much in love and happy together for the most part. I get on with her kids & friends really well, we enjoy our time together and have lots in common, support the same football team, things like that. There’s something that’s bothering me though.
She seems WAY too keen on chasing about with other men. I get that most people can see other people are attractive, fancy someone on TV etc and I don’t have an issue with that, but she seems to be drawn to men based on attraction and seems to see no issue in starting conversations with people on facebook etc, being very flirty and generally just giving off a vibe of being available. If we go out together it seems like she wants to put distance between us, she won’t dance with me or show affection etc. She openly admits to flirting with other people, but it does seem to go beyond harmless chat/having a laugh with someone.
Throughout the last year I’ve slowly found out the following things
She had an affair with a colleague (started flirting, then meeting him outside work knowing there was a mutual attraction etc, telling her husband at the time they were just friends etc then it got physical)
She told me she thought she was pregnant early on and it might not have been mine
She wants contact with a guy who she describes as “her weakness”, who used her (and also had a girlfriend and kids) for sex for along time. She told me he was amazing in bed (which I didn’t want to know, at all!)
She’s incredibly secretive with her phone
She blatantly checks other men out and if they approach is very happy to chat away with them. It’s not a cheeky glance, it’s “hey, come over here” eyes.

She tells me there’s nothing in it and it’s just harmless fun, but after only recently finding most of this stuff out (after completely falling for her) I’m starting to feel like I’m going to get hurt. Bringing it up isn’t an option, she instantly calls me jealous and gets hetty about it. I’m not jealous and I’m perfectly happy that she has male friends, I just think communicating physical interest in someone else is a massive red flag, especially so early in a relationship.

Is this the bad sign I think it is? It probably seems obvious from reading above but when you’re in the middle of a situation like this it’s hard to make a judgement. It feels like she wants the security of being with me (she was cheated on and knows I have little interest in other people) but wants the excitement of chasing other people.

OP posts:
user1472636564 · 31/08/2016 14:48

Thanks again.
If you read a few comments (of mine) up, my previous relationship was abusive. She never cheated though.

I don't want to sound big headed but I know I can meet women easily, I always have been able to (I just don't want to think about dating at the moment because whilst I've reached a decision to leave her I'm still in love with her). She ticked all the right boxes at the start. She said she'd been cheated on and seemed really keen to ascertain whether I was a cheater or not, this suggested that she had no time for 'womanisers' etc
She wasn't keen to go to bed early on either, despite constantly telling me she thinks I'm attractive.
She's also very supportive to me in many ways, loves music, food, gigs.
All the things I love about her I've never had with any one else.

And this is why I've let it get this far.

Yeah, after recent years (and re-reading what i just typed above) I'm probably insecure.

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thestamp · 31/08/2016 14:50

AnotherTime have you rtft? OPs last relationship was violent and landed him in hospital. Have some empathy ffs, of course he's going to have a wobbly few goes as he tries to move on.

OP you sound lovely. This woman isn't for you. I've no issue with open relationships but (a) that''s not what you want and (b) she's made it clear that she herself wants loyalty from you while she puts it about! Not on, no way.

You do deserve better and you'll find it. I'm recently ish out of an ea relationship and for me what's worked is to just be really demanding and hard work when I meet someone. ... ask a fair bit of them, without apology and hold them to what feels like very high expectations. This way I find I'm actually doing what normal people do in relationships.... because my boundaries are so shit that my "natural" approach isn't in my best interests.

This sets the tone and has helped me find a new man who really treats me nicely and who is strong enough for me to lean on at times, for me to expect a lot from etc (ex waa very entitled and expected me to bear the brunt of everything under the sun and it exhausted me).

I wonder if you might be able to do the same. Next time expect a lot from a woman, while also showing her love of course. And step back and really observe how she behaves in response to your expectations.

Good luck. You'll feel much better after you end this car crash relationship honestly. I'm sure she has good points but she's not a good partner.

thestamp · 31/08/2016 14:54

Another thing op based on your last post...

Always remember words are cheap. Never listen to words. Watch carefully. Over a long period.

You can fall in love with anyone - all it takes is time and proximity - so choose wisely before you invest time and closeness in someone.

HappyAxolotl · 31/08/2016 14:57

At worst she's a cheat. Well she already has form for that. At best she needs constant attention from men and will cheat the minute you aren't worshipping her 24/7. Treat yourself right and leave her to it.

AnotherTimeMaybe · 31/08/2016 14:58

thestamp no I missed that part but doesn't change anything really about self esteem issues here and falling for the wrong people

OP it's great that you think you can get a woman anytime! Doesn't sound cocky you should feel like this! You can do much better than someone who abuses you mentally
That's what she does!!!
And I'd really love to know what makes you be in love with her

Move on and find someone that you really deserve!

user1472636564 · 31/08/2016 15:41

thestamp
Thanks :) As much as i feel like curling up in a ball and not moving for several days i could give you and several other posters here a massive hug. It was hard reading this thread as i didn't want to admit to myself that i was right that she's going to be a massive nightmare, but it helped.

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user1472636564 · 31/08/2016 15:45

AnotherTimeMaybe
I still feel big headed! The sad bit is i got stuck in this city when my ex gave birth. I can't move now as, obviously, i need my son to be near his mother in case she ever decides to sort herself out. I wouldn't want to move him away from her, despite what she did to me.

I don't have friends and family anywhere nearby so i feel a bit secluded at the moment. Everyone i know is my girlfriend's friends and family (and they've all been really good to me).

It's easy to see why people get stuck in unhealthy relationships sometimes!

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user1472636564 · 31/08/2016 15:48

And I'd really love to know what makes you be in love with her
She's kind, politically charged, helps people who need help, she's an amazing Mother to her children, makes me laugh etc

But, she's also possibly a cheat, which kind of trumps all of the above!

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SandyY2K · 31/08/2016 16:08

Why would you put up with the blatant disrespect? She's a very high cheat risk and could have already cheated on you. She cheated on her husband and clearly hasn't learnt from that.

She was sleeping with others as well as you, hence she didn't know who the father might be.

Have you tried giving her a dose of her own medicine? Tell her you find other women attractive and check them out? Better still .. just dump her.

She's making a fool out of you and your letting her do it.

Staying with her will emasculate you and put your self esteem in the toilet, which will take a long time if ever to recover from.
The longer you stay, the higher the chance you'll discover her cheating.

Cut your losses now.

AnotherTimeMaybe · 31/08/2016 17:08

OP she's kind, helps others but she's shit to you! Please understand you deserve better! i really hope you find the partner you deserve! You have had bad relationships I really suspect you think you deserve those or think that's the best you can get..... Good luck and get rid of the rubbish!! xxx

thestamp · 31/08/2016 17:15

You'll feel horrible for a little while still but it'll all come out in the wash. All these feelings are temporary so don't be scared of them. They always pass.

Get shot of her, cut contact, tell her you don't want to be friends (please don't try to be friends... she doesn't have good boundaries and neither do you, it'll end in yet more tears). Have a few days of crying to yourself, eat the foods you like, lie in the bath, watch your favourite films, write down how you feel and what's on your mind, good and bad. Whenever the bad feelings hit you, write it down, and then have a cuppa or go for a walk or something and try to breathe your way through, the feeling will pass if you let it (don't try to contact her to make the pain go away. It's like heroin withdrawal, let it happen and then you can be done with it quicker).

All the best, be good to yourself, demand better for yourself! This woman isn't the be all and end all, she is one person, there are billions of people on this planet! Don't waste your one precious life on earth spending time with people who make you feel shit and have you questioning yourself.

Mummydummy · 31/08/2016 18:49

Insecure, maybe. Unkind, yes. Its not a nice way to treat someone.

Try and talk about it. But.... you know the rest.

Rentz · 01/09/2016 06:43

As if she told you her ex was great in bed and she flirts with other people.

First class twat.

user1472636564 · 01/09/2016 14:05

I split up with her this morning. Took a sneaky day off work.
She didn't take it well. Cried lots, said I was the kindest person she'd ever met and all she wanted in a relationship, said she wouldn't flirt etc etc.
I told her to go back to the guy who was amazing in bed, cheats on his girlfriend and treats my now ex like crap.

IN a few hours of hindsight I can't imagine how I ever thought it would work when she was so blazen about flirting, having cheated, telling me about her ex being great in bed and (I forgot this in the OP) moaning someone else's name during sex.
It had disaster written all over it.
I feel a bit sad, but as soon as I deleted our 'relationship' on FB an old flame got in touch to ask if I need cheering up (I don't want to hop into bed with someone yet, but least I know i've still got it :) )

OP posts:
Lucylloyd13 · 01/09/2016 14:09

Run for the hills

user1472636564 · 01/09/2016 14:11

I did!

I'm knackered now.

Fucking big hill.

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AnotherTimeMaybe · 01/09/2016 17:31

Wow!!!! Well done!!
I'm sure you still got itWink
Enjoy being single for a bit x

Buzzardbird · 01/09/2016 17:33

Onwards and upwards OP. Well done. :)

HuskyLover1 · 02/09/2016 15:06

Well done. If she really loved you, she wouldn't be flirting with other men. I think I've still "got it", but I love DH dearly and would never have the slightest interest in flirting with anyone but him. This is what to strive for. Anything less is just gravy.

Rentz · 03/09/2016 08:49

Congrats. A good decision, she sounds like a total twat. I can't even begin to imagine why anyone would say those things to someone they say they love. It must've hurt and it must have been hard to call it off.

Make sure you find someone who'll treat you the way you seem to treat them. Decent guys are hard to find, the more I read this forum the more I believe it. You'll get snapped up in no time.
Wishing you a happy life (and not with someone who wants the nice home life with flirting outside, what a shit!)

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