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Cheating, evidence and divorce...

29 replies

Wallace29 · 30/08/2016 13:27

I’ll try to keep this as brief as possible, but its long sorry! DH and I have just “celebrated” our 8 year wedding anniversary. Been together for 10 years. From the start I was aware of his promiscuity in previous relationships (slept with 9 women with his first fiancé!) but he told me I was different blah blah, and being a naïve 20 year old I believed him.

We have a two year old son who took 3 years to conceive (me PCOS). It was me who pushed for a baby; DH wasn’t that fussed (in a nice “all I need is you” way) but now he is here he loves him and wouldn’t be without him.

The first signs of ‘cheating’ started within a year of our relationship. He accidently sent me a message and when I picked up my phone to read it, he smashed it up in front of me to stop me seeing it (first and last time he has ever been physical).

Then the year after I suspected he was contacting another women and managed to get access to his phone bills. Found evidence of hundreds of texts to a women who I knew he occasionally contacted. I confronted him and he passed it off as them chatting etc.

The next couple of years brought more suspicion and evidence of two more women – well, one was a 16 year old girl who he was secretly texting for a couple of weeks and deleting. He started texting her the day after my mum’s funeral – nice!

Every time I had that gut feeling something was wrong, I found something. After the last encounter (a women I didn’t know but he was texting 30+ times a day) I told him if I found anything again we were over.

A couple of years later when I was pregnant with my son, I had that “feeling” again that something wasn’t right….I ignored it. I’ve had that feeling on and off for 2 years. We’ve had a hard two years, our parenting approaches are quite different and we argue a lot (although that had been starting to improve).

Three weeks ago I gave into my instinct, found a number on his phone and synced my PC with his whatsapp (I’ve got to the point where I don’t care if it’s morally wrong I’m afraid!!). The messages started coming through and I think he met this women on a stag do abroad about 2 months ago (she lives a few hundred miles away). The messages have been graphic (mostly from her) but he’s gone along with it…apparently “she could really do with that hard fcking” he was talking about a few weeks ago. When he came back from that stag do he wouldn’t have sx with me for about 10days (claiming to have ‘tightness’ which he’s had in the past)…but I’m now thinking waiting for GUM results?!!

He’s such a good liar and very convincing. He’ll deny as much as he can and try to turn around anything he can on to me. So I’ve just downloaded some spyware to recover deleted messages from his phone and will attempt to download tonight. Then I’ll be confronting him. This is affecting me mentally and physically now (heart palpitations/constantly feeling sick). First time I've seen the actual messages. I can’t be in this relationship anymore but I’m held back by how divorce will affect my son. I just keep thinking that he’ll keep doing this and I don’t want to be here in another 10 years...also, how many more have there been!

You may read this and think “why didn’t you leave years ago” but in between this sh*t, things have been good (although not recently, think I’ve lost all respect for him and I’m not sure he ever had any for me).

Writing this has made me realise what a bl**dy mess I’m in!! But any thoughts would be appreciated. I haven’t spoken to anyone in real life about this yet and almost need reassurance that I’m not being ott by considering divorce?!

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adora1 · 31/08/2016 13:04

Please do it and follow through, you've suffered enough at the hands of this vile human being, your life and your mental well being will be massively improved once you get rid and will be able to be happy; I don't know how you have put up with that for so long, it's beyond bad, it's bloody shockingly awful!

Don't tell him anything, just get armed with knowledge and do the practical and of course lean on a friend, someone you can trust.

Your son will be fine, he's been in a broken family long enough now, time for you two to have the life you both deserve.

HuskyLover1 · 31/08/2016 13:41

*However you do it, divorce will not be amicable. He will be OUTRAGED at your unreasonableness, your paranoia and your " deception " . He will call you controlling and suggest that you want to lock him up and stop him ever speaking to another woman. He will accuse you of breaking up the family and running your children's lives .

You need to understand that he feels COMPLETELY ENTITLED to behave the way he does. You can't change that about him . It's a core part of his belief system*

^^ This is very true. Even if you think he will be amicable, it will spin on a dime the moment you tell him it's over. Be careful to, as when I told my first husband it was over, he got violent.

My first husband was JUST like yours. They don't change. We were together 20 years. His next serious relationship - he cheated on her too. Now he's alone, the twat.

Regards Money : You may be surprised what you are entitled to. You have to see a Solicitor and get a Separation Agreement drawn up, Your Sol will send that to his Sol for agreement.

You are entitled to half his Pension. So, let's say his Pension pot is currently valued at £120,000 and yours is valued at £50,000....this means the total pot is £170,000, so that's £85,000 each, meaning that he has to pay you £35,000. Now obviously he can't give you his Pension, so, he has to give you cash instead. This is normally taken into account when the house is sold and the equity divided (ie. you get more than him).

You are entitled to "Economic Recompense" if you have taken a back seat in your career, to bring up your son, thus enabling him to carry on unhindered in his career. I didn't pursue that, so don't know how you'd come to a figure on that.

You may be entitled to Tax Credits when you split.

Child Benefit is always paid to Mum.

He will have to pay child support.

Your council tax will reduce by 25%, as lone adult in the house.

I think I'd be tempted to get the Separation Agreement drawn up, before you tell him.

But certainly I wouldn't go on holiday with him. Tell him to stay at home and use the time to sort out a solicitor for himself.

You will feel a weight has lifted, when you no longer have to fish about looking for evidence. I also downloaded spyware, but didn't bother using it in the end. I knew already, so why torture myself?

Fwiw, I met my DH only 2 months after I left first H. He is loyal, trustworthy and I am as sure as I can be, that he would never cheat. You deserve the same. And, my kids (aged 9 & 11 at the time) managed with the split ok. It's not all plain sailing (of course), but it's ok. Try to keep everything else the same, if you can, avoid moving schools etc. I told mine they could get an X box for the new house and much wanted fish....bribery I suppose, but it helped having stuff to look forward to at the new house. Oh and we also got a dog!

Good luck. x

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