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is there any 'getting over' a porn addiction?

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shulka · 17/08/2016 16:44

The man I'm in a relationship with (or rather was -.we're currently on a break since this came to light to think things over, which may become a permanent split) is addicted to porn. He acknowledges that it's a problem, has been reading some books on the subject and will shortly start counselling.

I am very much a Cool Girl (if you've seen or read Gone Girl you'll get what I mean). I've always said I had no issue with porn, I knew he watched it. I assumed he meant occasionally. Where was the harm I thought? He spends a fair bit of time on his phone/ laptop when I'm with him, and when I'm not. Again, I never asked questions or pried. And his job involves a lot of computer usage, so why would I be suspicious?

Turns out it was much more than occasionally, and has been part of his life for decades. Sometimes he said he would view it several times a week, others maybe once, but always at least that often.

There were no other red flags I don't think. He's always been pretty consistent re sex in our relationship (but his porn use was well established long before we met), and has always been very respectful in bed - and generally. I've had a fair few other sexual partners, he's virtually the only one who never expected constant bjs, and always wanted me to be satisfied (which again in my experience put him in the minority) and never did or asked for any of the porn type stuff other men expressed a preference for. So unless I missed something, I really didn't know this would happen.

He wants to stop using porn entirely, and has said that whilst he completely sees how he's betrayed my trust, he wants to try and earn it back, and hopes that we can rebuild our relationship.

Would I be a fool to consider it? Can he get over this addiction?

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CannotEvenDeal · 17/08/2016 22:07

"Good men don't watch porn." Hmm

The issue here is the honesty - or lack of- imo.

LesisMiserable · 17/08/2016 22:09

People lie about addiction don't they? That's part of the process. What else do you fear he might have lied about?

ThinkingForever · 17/08/2016 22:15

Well I disagree Cannot, from my values-perspective. I would be the first to say. I'm not talking about the odd glance from sexually-starved folk which I am sure happens, even understandably so. But serious porn-watching is not like Page 3 plus or some attractive Playboy bunnies flaunting their stuff 70s-style. Its usually violent, cynical, manipulative, sadistic, emotionally-dead, exploitative, superficial ... and so on. Maybe the OP should watch the porn her boyfriend likes and see if it agrees with her.

EllieQ · 17/08/2016 22:16

I had a similar situation with my husband and his use of porn. I was aware he looked at porn occasionally, but thought it wasn't a problem as it didn't affect our sex life and wasn't that different to me reading the occasional bit of erotic fiction.

However, I then found out that he used it daily, and had to confront the fact that the porn he was looking at was a lot nastier (in terms of violence and degrading acts towards women) than I had realised - I had expected it to be similar to top-shelf magazines of the 80s and 90s, but it isn't.

It was a difficult few months. We went to relationship counselling, then sex therapy, and DH admitted he used porn as stress relief and had been doing so since his teens. We had been together for over 10 years before I found out, and we are still together, but if I am honest it did change the way I view him a bit, which hasn't gone away.

shulka · 17/08/2016 22:22

Ellis thank you, seems your situation was quite similar to mine. I think (I haven't questioned him deeply, mainly I think because part of me almost doesn't want to know) that some, maybe most, of the porn he views is 'normal' if that's an appropriate term but some is violent/ degrading - he said he doesn't like that stuff; but that's not the same as saying he never watches it.

I don't know what else he may have lied about, if anything. Before this, I didn't think he'd ever lied to me.

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shulka · 17/08/2016 22:23

Sorry, EllieQ - autocorrect fail.

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SystemAticcally · 17/08/2016 22:34

Just to underscore what you already know, hundreds of millions of children play extremely violent video games now and then, you probably know some in your own families.

Do you take them to therapy?

SystemAticcally · 17/08/2016 22:44

I understand if OP were against porn from the start but OP said she knew and was ok with.

Furthermore, apparently there are no issues in bed with current partner, he seems to be more gentle and caring than previous non-porn-addicted partners.

So if it's only a matter of frequency, I don't see what the big problem is.

Get him to go out more, do more sports, go to the cinema more often, make him do things were he couldn't possibly hold a tablet and watch porn and you are sorted.

shulka · 17/08/2016 23:23

I think violence in a video game is a little different to violent porn tbh.

Part of his plan, as well as counselling, is to do more things that involve interaction with others, his current job and the sports he's interested in are quite solitary in nature. I agree that should help.

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Puzzled1 · 17/08/2016 23:39

I used the video games example to draw your attention to the fact that watching or interacting with a screen does not in the vast majority of cases translate into a negative behaviour, though health might suffer if you seat if from of screen too long and too often rather than go out and move your body around.

WombOfOnesOwn · 17/08/2016 23:50

I've seen women get over porn addictions, usually by realizing that what they're watching is coerced and often violent.

I've never seen a man get over a porn addiction. Not once. Instead, the usual method is to retreat away from it for a while and start hiding it better when they start looking again -- and also to start wearing down at their partner's boundaries by telling them pornography is feminist, or something they can share, or (with a slightly worse breed of man) the only thing that'll keep him from straying.

LesisMiserable · 17/08/2016 23:58

Do you work in this field Womb ? Or personal experience?

shulka · 18/08/2016 00:00

Womb that's interesting. What I'm seeing in my OH at present is closer to the former. He said he'd not really thought about the violence/ coercive aspects.

That said, he's only admitted to having a problem very recently, so he may restart watching it again - I don't think he could be more secretive because he already was so secretive about it, hence me having no idea about how bad it was until he told me.

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Isetan · 18/08/2016 06:20

You can't be 'generally' honest to a fault. He misrepresented his porn use because he didn't want it challenged and why would that rationale be restricted to porn.

Can he get past his 'addiction', sure why not but he's going to have to do a lot more than reading a few books. If his level of porn usage makes you uncomfortable (and I totally understand why it would) then keep your distance. My concern is that his motivation is more a desire to placate you, rather from wanting it for himself. My concern is that his motivation is more a desire to placate you, rather from wanting it for himself and your 'presence' could lead to more talk and not enough action.

LesisMiserable · 18/08/2016 09:08

I suspect he has just tipped over into lookjng at more and more unsavoury stuff to the point he's worried he might see something really serious but can't stop looking because the compulsion has took over.

Jayne35 · 18/08/2016 10:04

An addiction is something you CANNOT stop doing, so if the ops partner has admitted an addiction than that's good news because he knows it's a problem and wants to stop. I have been married 10 years to an addict in denial (now finally admitted it after the latest thing I found out - though I'm pretty sure it's too late).

These things can escalate too, starts with vanilla porn then harder stuff and for some webcams/hook up sites follow.

OP look at Your brain on porn website and tell your OH to look at NoFap. Both really interesting and helpful. In answer to your original question of should you stay? I know I wouldn't but maybe I would think differently if DH had admitted problem freely without being caught. Good luck whatever you decide.

adora1 · 18/08/2016 12:16

Agree with above, like any addiction it can and does lead onto much more harder stuff, which could lead the way to web camming and all sorts, sorry but I'd be telling him to come back when he has his head straight and can leave it alone, it's really all very sad on his part but it's not your problem and you should not feel you have to support him in any of it, I just don't agree with it at all, both from the female's pov in porn and also being associated with the exploitation of it all.

shulka · 18/08/2016 15:40

More food for thought, thank you. I'd hope he's not gone down the webcam/ hookup route, if he had I feel that would be a deal breaker, certainly if it was the latter.

I think it's too soon to say yet whether he can/ will give it up, that will take time. Maybe it's best to keep things between us as they are for the time being, and reassess in a couple of weeks.

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adora1 · 18/08/2016 15:45

Most porn flags up web cams and call girls all the time, it's a slippery slope.

Having said that, he is saying the right things so maybe wait and see what he does.

AnchorDownDeepBreath · 18/08/2016 15:48

Are you actually fine with him watching porn, or was it an active decision to be "cool" and not ask questions or nag?

To be honest, it sounds like you're both misrepresenting yourselves. Neither of you have been at all authentic and that means the relationship was always on a timer.

shulka · 18/08/2016 15:56

I've never met a man (to my knowledge) who never watches porn, certainly I've not been in a relationship with one. I have watched porn myself, so I'd be a hypocrite to object to it fully. I'd never asked how often, by trying to be cool I'd just made the assumption it was infrequent, possibly more infrequent than with men I'd dated before, given that our sex life was very much not porn based.

Possibly we have both, by trying to present the best aspect of ourselves, been guilty of misrepresentation. We do both agree that we can't take things forward unless we are now totally honest with each other, and I ask questions and try to be less overtly laid back.

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CannotEvenDeal · 18/08/2016 16:22

Most porn flags up web cams and call girls all the time, it's a slippery slope.

I really don't think that one necessarily leads to another. Personal viewing of sexual acts isn't automatically conducive to infidelity.

Unless it's extremely hard-core violent acts or children obviously etc. I genuinely don't see the huge deal about this. What would bother me more is having had it hidden from me for so long.

adora1 · 18/08/2016 16:31

Cannot: Never said it did, just said that is what pops up all the time with porn.

How can you not see it as a big deal, nobody actually truly knows what he is viewing and doing. And if innocent, and the OP cool with it, why indeed did he hide it.

CannotEvenDeal · 18/08/2016 16:35

Yes but you described it as a slippery slope, which implies that it would be conducive.

Also, surely that is the whole point- I'm going to get wound up over a stranger's dp possibly watching violent porn but we don't quite know yet Confused

adora1 · 18/08/2016 16:43

Yes, true enough, I just think with any addiction you have the right to walk away from it.

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