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FWB- without much benefits?

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Clawdeen · 16/08/2016 10:12

Having been single for a long time, I entered into a FWB relationship a few months ago. The Sex has been great and I've enjoyed having male company again after such a long time.

I thought it was working well- we're both busy with young kids and weren't looking for anything more serious. He has told me he's not seeing anyone else- I believe him as he works incredibly long hours and has his kids 50% of the time. He's also said I'm free to date other people and I have been doing online dating though without any joy.

Initially we were seeing each other once a week/every 10 days, sometimes just for sex and sometimes for a meal or a gig first. This has dwindled to once every 3 weeks. He has also stopped sexting or even flirting by text. However, this is where the confusion has arisen ( and am guessing that FWB arrangements attract confusion). He still texts daily - sometimes 2 or 3 times- but just a run down of his day or asking about mine, offering support and advice. I just went on holiday and he asked me to text whilst I was away and texted me to see if I was back home safely. I feel like we've drifted into the equivalent of old married couple pen pals! I thought in FWB the emphasis is on the benefits. Especially as in our case we weren't friends to start with and haven't spent enough time together to really form a friendship. I would rather swap the daily texts for flirty ones arranging to meet up or sexting when that wasn't possible.

We had planned to spend a day together this week as its been a long time since we've seen each other but he has other plans ( disappointing but fine- we're not in a relationship). He has however suggested another time this week- but for an hour only which he thinks is plenty of time to have a cup of tea and a catch up and get down to business! I do feel a bit disappointed by this ( in the sense of I'd hoped for a lengthy sex session, really exploring our fantasies etc) and a bit nonplussed ( can I really be bothered with a quickie? The last few times have been so brief and so spaced apart that I haven't really found myself able to let go and have the mind blowing connection we had at the start).

So my query is- as its a FWB arrangement do I even have the right to bring up my frustrations? Should I expect more benefits or is that veering into relationship territory? I'm rather sleep deprived at the moment so inclined to think 'oh f&&k it. I can't be bothered' but on the other hand, he has rearranged things in order to see me and I'm sure the sex will be fine ( and am somewhat reluctant to go back to the long drought!).

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Flatbellyfella · 17/08/2016 13:11

Does he not want to be seen in public with you? It sounds as though he has some reason not to take you out for the day. Probably the cost of you & your children . What age is he?

Clawdeen · 17/08/2016 13:53

I think he just got a better offer today ( related to his hobby) and probably thought an hour for me would let him have his cake and eat it.

All kids were in kids clubs for the day today ( I don't want mine encountering him!) and we're both solvent so no money worries. He's in his 40s.

But he doesn't like us to be seen together locally incase it gets back to his ex.

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MiaowJario · 17/08/2016 15:07

Soundos more like booty call than fwb? I'd be going old IDS the total heave-ho tbh.

HuskyLover1 · 17/08/2016 15:36

You would make much better use of your time, doing OLD, instead of seeing this guy. He is taking up so much of your free time, what with all the boring texts and you're not getting anything much from your time investment. One hour, at 10am in the morning. Er, no thanks. Even a FWB arrangement should involve a bit of seduction, you know, like a night out/cocktails/outrageous flirting, leading up to nooky at a hotel. He has booked you for a shag. I the same way that he would book a Prostitute. Only you are free. He is doing the absolute minimum to keep you hooked. There's not even any excitement any more. I would just bin him and move on. Btw, the fact that he doesn't want his ExW to know about you, is just bloody weird. It's been 3 years. I wonder if he is hoping to get back with her? Anyway, I wouldn't go for that hour. Don't lower yourself.

ThinkingForever · 17/08/2016 17:07

I'm really sorry OP but he's not "developing feelings" for you. Maybe a bit of a hottie thing to begin with, then behaving badly by asking for an hour's sex at 10 a.m. and maybe hoping you'll say 'hell no' and save him the trouble of ending it. Just don't give his messages the dignity of a response. Ignore.

(If I'm wrong, please come back in a month's time, and I will really question my judgment on this forum).

Clawdeen · 17/08/2016 19:05

Yes- much more like a booty call and booking me for sex. I agree- I like the seduction/flirting and the build up. I have booty called him before on my way home and it's been good but that's in addition to planned nights out.

He texted again a few hours ago as he'd seen me walking down the street ( I was oblivious) and said he was looking forward to Friday. I replied straight away with Cabrinha's suggestion about an hour not being enough and to let me know when he had a whole afternoon/night free for proper fun. Radio silence ever since so I guess that's my answer.

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Clawdeen · 17/08/2016 19:08

Oh and Husky lover- I signed up to OLD about 6 weeks ago- no joy so far but hopefully will provide distraction.

And glad you also think the ex wife thing is weird. He says he doesn't want to annoy her so she changes child access arrangements. Can't see why him having a (very occasional) FWB would bother her. She seems rational and reasonable and I'd be surprised if she wasn't having sex! So I do also wonder if he's still in love with her.

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RunRabbitRunRabbit · 17/08/2016 19:27

You are not in a relationship. Don't do anything just so I get to have my say

He has played you. Put it down to experience. You shouldn't have touched him again after the dumping, even without him laying out his T&Cs. You were a bit daft to respond to requests for life advice (remind me, who was emotionally needy?)

Sounds as if he likes having you dangling on a string. The thing that will show him that you are NOT his sex puppet will be giving no response following that last text from you. If he tries being your incompetent husband again (childcare advice in a fwb arrangement, wtf?) or just your husband (I've been to the dentist, um OK) maybe respond saying you can see he is after more than a sexual relationship. and you don't want that, goodbye and goodluck.

ThinkingForever · 17/08/2016 21:10

to me your text sounds like you are trying to re-negotiate contract conditions and working hours ....

ThinkingForever · 17/08/2016 21:14

Sorry OP I hope that didn't come across too harsh Hmm But I hate to see women denigrate themselves, at least the way I see it from where I'm standing. If I'm wrong, like I said, I hope you will correct me in time.

Kittencatkins123 · 17/08/2016 22:52

You can find another FWB with actual B! He's taking you for granted I would ignore, block, delete, leave him for dust/better fucks. Wine Grin

Clawdeen · 17/08/2016 23:31

Not harsh at all! It's what I need to hear. I think that having sex again after so many years clouded my judgement! I was with my late H so long that I'm essentially new to dating and so a bit naive and taking people on face value.

I've not heard anymore from him so will delete and hope OLD turns out to be less stressful!

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category12 · 18/08/2016 13:46

I wouldn't be surprised if he comes back to you in a few weeks saying he's had a wobbly again and let's start again. I would ignore if I were you. It seems to coincide with you asserting yourself.

Clawdeen · 18/08/2016 14:14

You may be right. When he disappeared after his last wobbly, my friends were convinced he'd be back in touch again and he was. I'm bound to bump into him anyway as he lives very close by and our kids are similar ages.

I will do my best to be strong! The advice on here has been great. RL friends are all on holiday so I was wavering a bit.

Still I had a lovely day pottering yesterday and have planned a nice morning of yoga and a pedicure on Friday.

I've also spent an hour on OLD liking several profiles so hopefully that will prove a good distraction.

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2021babyplum · 08/06/2025 14:51

Hey, curious about the next “chapter” here! How have you been?

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