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great article on narcisstic/EA realtionship

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7forasecret · 20/07/2016 20:14

pro.psychcentral.com/recovery-expert/2016/07/what-to-expect-when-you-marry-a-narcissist/

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AprilSkies44 · 20/07/2016 23:21

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MilicentKing · 20/07/2016 23:22

This is what I'm living with right now.
He will be gone soon (he has refused to leave, I am buying him out).

It has nearly broken me.

There is simply not enough recognition and support for EA relationships. "Immediate danger" is only with respect to physical violence.

nooofthenoodle · 20/07/2016 23:53

The only way with these people is to get as far away and as fast as possible. Narcs sociopaths and psychos are all the same, slightly different but equally toxic.

Please leave April as soon as you can and keep reading.
I've just escaped a sociopath. Didn't feel like an escape at the time but I realise now it was the luckiest escape of my life.

nooofthenoodle · 20/07/2016 23:55

And don't let him know you know he's a narc. He will use it against you. Maybe he knows there's something wrong with him maybe he doesn't but either way he'll never change so what's the point?

blackheartsgirl · 21/07/2016 00:10

What the hell do u do if you're financially dependent on them? We are on a low income, I work part time, he is full time night shift in a supermarket. I'm just a cleaner. My ds is autistic and I've just lost his pip. I rely on his money he pays all the rent and other stuff. Universal credit comes in next year and I will be sanctioned for working part time but my youngest is six and I have mental health issues myself. No family support at all. I'm stuck.

I am chilled to the bone reading that article. That bit about him never asking how you are or how your day is yep that's him. He says it's not necessary to ask and I'm just attention seeking. He is like it with the kids. Awful

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Imbroglio · 21/07/2016 03:52

People with narcissistic tendencies can't take any criticism whatsoever, and won't get help because they don't believe the issue is with them. There is simply nothing to gain from telling them but much to lose if they get angry or project all the criticism back to you.

Black that sounds very tough.

LellyMcKelly · 21/07/2016 04:18

My narc was a brilliant, clever, good looking man who'd written books, and I was so flattered he was interested in me. I had a two year relationship punctuated by intense highs and intense lows. He loved me (he said) because I was funny and feisty, yet I was a shadow of my former self, becoming afraid of saying anything in case he took offence and another round of the silent treatment began. This could be for something as minor as liking someone on TV that he didn't (e.g. Jamie Oliver). Sometimes the silent treatment could last a month, possibly because he used it as time to date other women. It got to the stage towards the end where the cycle involved him talking/being all lovey dovey for 2 weeks before another dose of silent treatment would begin. The final straw came when he once said I got the ST 'because I deserved it'. That set alarm bells ringing, and the next time it happened I walked out. I didn't beg him to come back or apologise as I'd done before. I just went no contact. When he realised, the love bombing began, but I was over it by that stage. April and Black, get out. These men will not make you happy. They will chip away at your self esteem until there's nothing left. I still miss him, or what I thought was him. He was funny and loving and clever in a good mood, but vile, bitchy, and coruscating when he didn't get his own way. Good luck! xx

Dogladyy · 21/07/2016 05:25

Eye opening article thank you so much for sharing.

Ineedmorelemonpledge · 21/07/2016 12:52

April you are not annoying him, he is losing control of the game, because you're starting to see the light. And he's not happy. Because the power is shifting. And narcissists don't like that at all.

Don't show this article. He will work every point into an argument and add it to the game.

Please distance yourself.

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SeaEagleFeather · 22/07/2016 07:11

well done april. And I'm so sorry to hear about the situation with your pregnancy and termination.

Hold strong. Keep well away if he does get back in touch. You're absolutely done the right thing.

In the future when you're ready some psychotherapy might be very helpful. take care of yourself Flowers

Imbroglio · 22/07/2016 11:39

Well done April. You have done the right thing. And so sorry for your loss.

fallingsnow · 22/07/2016 12:24

*is there a reason that its a bad idea to try and tell a narc that you suspect they are a narc?

is it just pointless? or is it worse than that?*

IMO it is pointless, but it is worse than that.

To see that a close friend or partner has a personality disorder can be interpreted as something you have this "on them" or could even use against them and they will not be best pleased. They may also argue with you about it, which is a waste of your energy. Even worse, they will know that you know now. So they will probably "up the game" in a new way, to try and win and to get that power back. Something you don't want to get into, willingly or unwillingly. Finally, they may just hate you even more, because you've got something that they haven't got (insight) and you got there first. In some kind of way, they may want to make you pay for this! Its a bit or a dark view I guess but they can be dark, as we know.

Another thing, if they do gain knowledge of their own narcissism they may think its funny or actually boast about it (publicly at least), even if its presented in a twisted or inaccurate way.

Finally, they can't really change. There may be one or two self-aware narcissists out there who do want to change, but they are rare animals, and I think they probably spend their lives struggling with the issue. Even in the highly unlikely event that your N was like that, is it worth being involved in all that and the risk it entails. Self-aware Ns like Sam Vankin (or whateverhisnameis) don't want to change.

I would add that if you feel the need to inform them of their problem to "help" them, you are probably still involved, when your priority should be healing and looking after yourself.

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Imbroglio · 22/07/2016 12:35

Narcissists are 'perfect' in their eyes so they will just throw it all back at you - it will be YOUR lack of awareness, mental health problems and general inability to cope that will be the cause of you criticising them and labelling them.

fallingsnow · 22/07/2016 12:50

Yes, it may even fuel their superiority complex Confused.

Jackie0 · 22/07/2016 12:56

You're amazing April.
Seriously you've had the strength to take action and be decisive in the face of abuse and fear.
Your life can start now and it's going to be great.
I love Jesus & The Mary Chain too Wink

MonicaLewinskisFlange · 22/07/2016 20:49

Thanks for this OP. My DH scored 38/40.Sad

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