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Struggling with DH's response to a family issue

46 replies

notbloodybranston · 24/06/2016 01:07

We've been married 13 years and have DD 11 and DS 8.

Had two lots of Relate over the years - mainly to do with his negativity towards life in general, his need for tidiness and order, control issues over daft little things that individually look trivial but eventually drive me mad (I am not "allowed" to do the food shopping or suggest alternate shops/touch the dishwasher/wrap presents/hold remote control/eat in the car/touch any part of the car - especially radio). He's had separate counselling of his own to deal with some of this and I am aware that he really does try. He has also learned to laugh at his own rules and tries to stop himself from automatically saying "no" to any suggestion.

We rumble on. Don't have much in common. He hates reading, films, not that keen on visitors (apart from one couple) and seems to hold the opposite opinion from me on every major issue that you will ever seen in the news. We parent in a similar way but our house is not fun and is not the open home that I wanted to create.

Two weeks ago I received a call from a first cousin. She is the eldest of three siblings who I did not see much of growing up. DCous told me that her brother had left a girlfriend and two year old child some years ago and that Dcous had tried to keep in touch with the girlfriend for the sake of the child.

Child is now 9 years old and has been taken into care by SS due to truly awful neglect. DCous (at the request of her brother - the child's father - who does not want to be a father) has offered to be a Special Guardian to the child and this is progressing through court.

SS are concerned that the judge on the day may not grant DCous the SG order for a variety of reasons (DCous is a great mother and is happily married - so other stuff). She is terrified that the child will go into care or be placed with unsuitable relatives of the mother.

I speak to DH. I show him the report on the child and I leave him alone for a few days to read it. I then ask to speak to him and give him warning that I want to speak about the report (all ways of communicating with him recommended by Relate). I start by saying that this is just an initial chat but we have the room and ampble finances and this is my grandmother's great grandchild, my mum's great niece. She's had a terrible start - could we put ourselves forward to be assessed by SS?

No no no. No thought for this little girl. No compassion. Just he doesn't want any more children.

I know this sounds melodramatic -but something in me has just died. It seems ridiculous to say that. But the fact he couldn't even think about it. meet SS, discuss the pros and cons. I haven't slept since. My RL friends tried to say that as this child could have an adverse impact on our kids and perhaps he was being protective? But we don't know that - he wouldn't event think about it.

Am I over reacting/being a dick.

OP posts:
HuskyLover1 · 24/06/2016 14:54

I am not "allowed" to do the food shopping or suggest alternate shops/touch the dishwasher/wrap presents/hold remote control/eat in the car/touch any part of the car - especially radio

^^ What?

Was he like this when you married him? You only live once, I'd seriously think about getting rid of this man. He sounds quite unhinged and marriage should not be like this, it really shouldn't.

Dozer · 24/06/2016 14:57

Can he "help it" at work and with his friends and family, or is it just you and the DC he treats to this behaviour?

I would doubt a social worker would recommend him for a placement tbh.

HeartsTrumpDiamonds · 24/06/2016 14:58

Sounds like he is also emotionally abusive to your DC.

adora1 · 24/06/2016 15:05

If he really cared about anyone else other than getting his own way all the time he'd piss off and be solitary, he appears to hate his family after all.

Thing is OP, he's been getting away with it and it's only now that he's starting to realise, yeah realise that his cushy little number might be up.

ClopySow · 24/06/2016 15:05

I wouldn't hold it against him not wanting to take on another child.

I would absolutely hold all of the other things against him. He sounds insufferable.

someonescj · 24/06/2016 15:12

He sounds like a vile man, I don't blame you for not wanting to remain with him, if I were in your situation I'd leave as soon as possible. Your home doesn't sound like a loving environment to bring a neglected child into but what a lovely thing to offer. I hope your Dcous gets the SGO :)

ChopsticksandChilliCrab · 24/06/2016 15:40

Taking on another child is a massive thing and not to be done lightly so his reluctance on this is understandable.

All the other things are not understandable. Your DH is sucking the life out of you and sounds horrendous. Has he seen a doctor about his bad moods?

Stargirl82 · 24/06/2016 15:50

Wow I'm surprised at some of the comments. Has he got OCD OP? Us that the reason for not touching things?

notbloodybranston · 24/06/2016 15:54

He works alone - has never worked with colleagues who are physically in same room. He meets clients who find him funny and quirky.
His mum is v nervous of him as the more she talks, the more he becomes obviously impatient but she loves him. He became like this in his teens following an incident which he had had counselling for. He is the oldest son (DFil died before I was around) and used to being in charge.

OP posts:
notbloodybranston · 24/06/2016 15:56

Yes - well not diagnosed but informally we say all say he has OCD. He is basically Sheldon from The Big Bang Theory. He really wants to not have these rules but he can't help it.

OP posts:
adora1 · 24/06/2016 15:57

You mean most of the comments Star?

Do you think their various trips to Relate over the years have been down to OCD?

Funny how his OCD doesn't stop him working, just seems to happen in the home where he shouts, makes the OP's family feel unwelcome and is generally a miserable git.

If he does have OCD or depression, do you not think he's had plenty time to go seek help?

Spotsandstars · 24/06/2016 16:16

It's possible he has undiagnosed ASD. He doesn't like change and freaks out at the Unknown/ uncontrollable situations.

adora1 · 24/06/2016 16:19

He may very well and OCD, don't see what the hell that's got to do with his treatment of other human beings and nobody should have to put up with it either, if he cared, he'd have gone and got help for it..

Nivea101 · 24/06/2016 16:37

It doesn't seem the right environment to bring a child into. Hard enough bringing a strange child into a happy joyous home.

RunRabbitRunRabbit · 24/06/2016 16:42

You've told him you want to split up. So what happens now?

Kenduskeag · 24/06/2016 17:03

The two issues are simply poles apart. On the one hand, you have a controlling and somewhat mentally ill husband who doesn't let you touch the remote, and has sought counselling for this but hasn't improved. This is an issue that may now be considered unalterable and you need to make steps to leave, because... you can't really live like that.

However, issue 2 is undergoing SS scrutiny to foster a distant child, on a whim and out of the blue - it's not like you've spent time talking about fostering and put yourselves forward over months, this would have knocked anyone for six - which to be honest he's not being unreasonable about. If you don't want more children then you don't want more, and it's wrong to pressure someone over it (none of us would be too keen on any man pressuring a woman to have more, nor on a woman demanding a reluctant husband impregnate her.) Yes, the kid's story is sad, but the stories are sad for all the kids in care.

Besides. That little girl needs a far more stable family than you can offer her. Don't you think SS will discover his issues? A vulnerable child can't be placed with someone who forbids people from touching the dishwasher.

Even the best and most angelic, warm and lovely spouses would balk at being suddenly asked to foster some random kid, so I don't see any point in judging him for that. As for the rest, it does sound like you don't get a lot of joy from being with him.

adora1 · 24/06/2016 17:07

I think the OP was more upset about her OH not giving it any consideration, not that he might say no in the end, it was the fact he wouldn't even look into it with her, hardly a partnership or equal relationship.

I think the OP is admirable, I'd offer to do the same if it was my family, poor wee thing.

The inconsideration seems to be a major part of the OPs life with him.

WipsGlitter · 24/06/2016 17:50

I agree with pp. the issues in your marriage are one thing. Taking on a distant relatives child who will need considerable support is a massive commitment. Your husband sounds like a very emotionally distant person - did you really expect him to consider this??

Gide · 24/06/2016 19:27

I get the impression from what you say about your DH that you and the DC have a frankly shit life. What are with him?

Stargirl82 · 24/06/2016 19:40

Adora it's very hard to accept that you've got ocd and maybe he needs pointing in the right direction. Everyone is quick to slag him off but if he has mental health issues he needs help first. It's a shame when they went to relate before the counsellors didn't pick up on this.

Stargirl82 · 24/06/2016 19:42

However I agree with you and it's s very admirable thing to do to offer to take on a child. Very kind of u op xSmile

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