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Chamonix1 · 23/06/2016 07:16

Since day 1 me and my now husband have found our relationship with his parents challenging. They come across as a pretty standard middle aged couple and at first I tried so hard to keep them happy. It was really something we had to try and do and nothing was ever enough. We had always found some way to offend or upset, not seeing them enough (had to be once a week), then when we saw them once a week it was we aren't happy enough when we see them, we don't make them feel loved, we hate them and it just got worse and worse. Then inevitably we'd fall out, it caused huge amounts of pressure in our relationship (mine and dh's) as everytime they'd message he'd ask me what to say, not wanting to see them but needing and excuse to say no etc.
They aren't perfect and neither are we, however we recognise and admit it whilst they seem to think everything that they feel is down to us, rather than their insecurities.
Most of these insecurities seem to stem from mil, not feeling loved, her son doesn't "hug her properly", she never gets gifts etc and I think she struggled with her son not being there for her 24/7.
Since having a dd they've stepped it up a notch, and they are now upset on a weekly/at least monthly basis that although we see them once a week they want dd alone, to themselves.
We have let them take dd, on several occasions and they'd almost always do something I deem a little strange. Like feed her lots of lemon and take photos, show us and then wonder why she had a huge nappy rash (she was 6 months at the time), teach her that it's a great game to wrap rope around someone's neck and pull them around the room like a dog (aware this is just a bit of fun but it wasn't fun for dd when she got told off at play school for doing this to a younger child) these were typical things that they thought was suitable and when we mentioned that perhaps not such a great idea it was dismissed and told they're her grandparents they know how to look after her.
I don't think they are a danger to dd, they do love her, they also love dh and have caused a lot of damage and insecurity within him as a fully grown adult. I have real concerns that if I allow them to take my daughter as much as they wish, they will make her feel the same as he does and actually as I do around them.
I don't want to cut contact (ideally I'd see them far less) but I'm not sure how we establish a relationship when we all get together when it suits us all rather than feeling nervous everytime they message asking to take dd after seeing us at the weekend.
I'm aware I must sound petty but things have been strained and tough, they really have been such a huge amount of hard work and if I'm honest we as a family are so Much happier when they are on holiday or busy for a weekend. It's exhausting and the only way I can see it getting better is by moving away.
Any suggestions on how to set normal healthy boundaries?
Sorry for the rant. I don't want to drip feed!

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MoreGilmoreGirls · 23/06/2016 16:26

Good god this would drive me insane! You need distance somehow... Can you move? They've had their turn at parenting and clearly did not do a very good job. She is your daughter and personally I'd be keeping her as far away from these crazies as poss. You need to set boundaries and stick to them and not give in to their whining and demanding.

Lweji · 23/06/2016 16:38

I think next time they ask if you don't trust them, say an emphatic no and show them a news report of what can happen to children when they play with things around their neck.

Chamonix1 · 23/06/2016 16:40

We might move next year, but we have been told that no matter where we move we will "never get rid of them" ha.
Moving means leaving behind a lot of young family that my dd is very close to, it would be a great shame she wouldn't see a lot of cousins half as much.
If we did move itd only be from s/w England to London. Then we'd have to put up with weekend long visits. Shock

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Chamonix1 · 23/06/2016 16:41

Dh actually did say about the rope around the neck thing and fil said "oh yeah well we don't do that anymore" to which dh replied "that's good but unfortunately dd still does!"

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MoreGilmoreGirls · 23/06/2016 16:54

They sound totally bonkers, don't they have anything else in their lives? Since they aren't happy now I don't see what diff it would make cutting their visits to monthly. You need and your DH need to agree and take some control back of your lives! Good luck Flowers

Lweji · 23/06/2016 16:55

And god knows what they'll come up with next.

Heatherjayne1972 · 23/06/2016 17:18

Btw you don't have to agree to them staying with you all weekend
Your house your say

RiceCrispieTreats · 23/06/2016 17:23

"As for the how often we can see them thing, considering I work both days every other weekend, and dh leaves at 4:30am and returns home at 8pm (doesn't see me or dd 5 days a week pretty much) if say we could meet up every month, giving us at least 1 weekend a month with dd. They'd not stand for this easily though."

That's your plan, then. Discuss it with DH and then start implementing it.
Of course they won't stand for it easily.
But they have no choice in the matter. What your little family does is yours to determine.

Also, it is an excellent thing that he is at home every other weekend and you're not. Because then he has the choice to keep relenting to his parent's every whim (and you're not the baddy; you're just not there), or he is put squarely in front of the fact that he really doesn't care to spend time with them either (therefore making your own reluctance something that he absolutely cannot hold against you).

Do it do it do it. You know it's what you want.

SeaCabbage · 23/06/2016 18:34

I completely agree with RiceCrispie above.

You say your DH doesn't want to see them on his own nor does he send cards etc. BTW please stop sending all his cards - that's crazy.

Time to have a real sit down talk with DH about this. YOur PIL honestly sound horrific. As other posters have said - it is your choice about how often you see them. Stop seeing them so often. Talk again to yoru DH about cutting contact. Talk through how it made him feel. Suggest he goes for counselling because this is just going to get worse.

I feel for your poor daughter having contact with those horrible, horrible, and crazy people. I hope you can protect her.

It is your choice. Your right. Keep telling yourself that. Good luck.

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