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Tell me I am lucky and to shut the fu*k up!

34 replies

TreadmillMom · 18/01/2007 14:00

Sometimes I just feel so miserable and then I read other threads and think FFS your OH is not that bad get a life and stop bleating.
My mom used to constantly moan about my dad to us and is it possible I have inherited this never satisfied trait?
We have two boys 3.5yrs and 15mths, I work 3 days a week and OH works full time.
We bicker about the same thing and have been since we became a parents, who does the most around here?
My OH does the big things, house and car maintenance, financial revisions, hoovering weekly on average. He has a good job is very ambitious and I am genuinely proud of his achievements.
I do the daily stuff, dishes, cooking, laundry, shopping, general(not thorough)tidying up.
My husband lusts after me and is always physical and we have an adventurous sex life (quality not so much quantity these days) but that is mutual.
He tells me he loves me all the time yet I feel he treats me like rubbish. He is rude to me, sarcastic, he picks at the things I DO NOT do and frequently tells me I do nothing around here, though on an average evening you WIll see him on the sofa or laptop and me in the kitchen doing chores till 9pm. If I ask him to do anything say, carry up the clean washing for me when you are on your way up the stairs he behaves like Kevin The Teenager.
I cannot ask him to do anything for me, empty the machine, take something out the freezer, pass me this, pass me that without a strop whether physical or verbal. It drives me insane. I have tried the I will not ask you to do anything AGAIN route but it is exhausting trying to be superwoman and it is not fair, am I playing into his hands and that is exactly what he really wants.
I call him Charlie Stubbs (Coronation Street)because he is great at the reverse psychology stuff, he does not like it but I say I am only joking (I am only half joking).
If he has a day off, working from home or sick I dare not ask him to do anything, he always throws in my face that I am always bossing him around. I don?t tell him what to do; every request begins with a snively Honey, would you mind? Christs sake, I should not have to use that kind of language with my own husband should I?
I do love him but am no longer in love with him as he makes me feel bad about myself and I secretly cry, at this precise moment I do not want any physical contact, I feel like he is only interested in me for my body. How can he expect to talk to me this way and then expect me to be passionate, I have explained this to him in the past. He was deeply hurt but took the criticism on the chin (temporally).
Weekends are the worst. Before we had children we would lounge around in bed all the time sometimes getting up as late as 3pm. I cannot stay in bed past 7am these days, you are mums you know the score but he has not lost his love affair with his bed and does not get up until around 11am. I NEVER, EVER get a lie in. Recently I was out at a girlfriends party and got in at 4:30am and I still had to get up at 7! I was so upset. As long as the kids are tucked up in bed in the evening I can go out with my friends which is terrific but if he has to look after them on a Saturday or Sunday morning so I can get my hair done or check out the sales he starts a row with me saying stuff like I do not want to be with my own kids or when I get back he will be feeling upset and guilty cos he had lost his patience with the kids and been (in hindsight) too hard on them or smacked them unnecessarily. In 3.5yrs I have been out on a weekend day 3 times and it has always been the same. I will not be leaving the kids with him anymore. Ridiculous huh? I have told him if his love affair with his bed continues I am leaving, it is so unfair getting up knackered week in, week out listening to him blissfully snoring in bed and then shouting at the kids for stomping around or shouting.
Sometimes I think he is a little tough on them but I am old fashioned and I prefer him to be a disciplinarian rather than not.
He did get up for 2 or 3 weekends but is back to the old routine again.
Over Christmas we were off together 10 consecutive days, he got up early once, Christmas Day. I never got a lie in once.
Last night I got DS1 ready for bed and while OH was bathing baby I was putting away about 3 loads worth of laundry. DS2 was crying and OH was saying to him mom will be here in a minute to dress you. I said would you mind dressing him for me cos I am just putting away the washing; you know what he said to me? I was using the washing as an escape clause not to look after the baby! I was aghast, I suggested we swap if that is what he thinks surprise, surprise he said no.
Am I just an ungrateful winger? He plays with the kids solidly, I am allowed to wear what I want and go out any evening, I trust him implicitly, he is a hard worker, supportive to me on a professional level, we have great conversations about all manner of topics, he is funny, sociable, good company and we go out together as a family and as a couple and always have fun.
Tell me I am lucky and to shut the fu*k up!

OP posts:
meowmix · 22/01/2007 10:24

er... if he can't handle a 15 month old who isn't ready for a nap how is he going to handle a 15 year old who's being a nightmare because he has hormones? This kind of behaviour can only escalate - he needs help understanding boundaries.

LittleWonder · 22/01/2007 10:47

TMM - this all sounds very familiar. You must try Relate. Unless there is some dramatic improvement, you are going to have to prepare yourself for a separation - because he is never going to change. It sounds as though he has an inferiority complex, and he is abusing both you and the children. It is so scary imagining life without the man, but if you know you have to do it all yourself, somehow it is easier! Honestly!
Venting his own frustration on your little children is not on. Let him know that if he ever smacks them again it is the end of the road. You cannot allow him to do this.
And you deserve better yourself.
If you cannot face the separation route yet, then write him a letter and put in all the bullet points you have outlined - keep the emotion out of it and make it very business-like.
apologies for sounding harsh, it is a crappy space to be in and I send you a hug.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 22/01/2007 10:54

"I just wish I could change his snappy, impatient, critical, rude traits"

treadmillmum

You cannot make him change his ways re the above, the above sounds like deeply rooted and learnt behaviour. Only he can change and he is showing no signs of wanting to do so. You can change your reaction to him and find help for your own self.

Would you go to Relate on your own to discuss this with someone?.

BTW what are his parents like towards you both, presumably he learnt all the above from his own parents.

You sound utterly defeated and ground down and in this position you cannot see the wood for the trees. You like many others in such an emotionally abusive relationship think its not all bad really and make excuses for him. Its a very dangerous mindset for you and not at all good for the children to see. Damaging lessons are being learnt here and your children are learning from you both.

divastrop · 22/01/2007 12:16

i think he has damaged your self esteem and made you think you are lucky to have him cos it 'could be worse'.IME this is something abusive men do'if iwas really abusive then i wouldnt let you go out with your mates would i' blah blah

munz · 22/01/2007 12:23

I can not agree with teh others more - the baby is 15 months old - they do have 'paddys' they do stand up in their cots. mines only 1 and he can be a bit much at tiems but at teh end of the day he's only 15 months old. he's a baby.

I imagion the abby would have gone to sleep scared and frightened - after H made him worse byu the smacking. I'm sorry but that's raw for me and i'd be off no relate or anything.

he's done it once and admitted it to you - but honestly how many times has he done/thought of doing other things when you're not there - and unfortunatly we can't watch our children 24/7. and tbh would you really enjoy yourself on a nigth out if you had in the back of your mind if x wakes up and won't settle again H will hit him.

(I'm rather anti smacking so prob not the best person to give advice on that but there is something wrong imho)

choosyfloosy · 22/01/2007 12:29

tmm, what is your honest opinion of your dad - was your mum really never satisfied, or did she have some justification?

I agree that moaning to your children about your partner is not on (although honest acknowledgement of mistakes and faults is OK - i havne't quite worked out how to do this one yet myself), but is feeling downtrodden in a relationship your normality because of her experience?

I'd say Relate too.

lupo · 22/01/2007 21:57

a father who hits 15mth baby who wont settle for a nap is a controlling bully who should not be left in charge of children.
Would find it hard to love anyone who did this to my child

lupo · 22/01/2007 21:59

oh forget relate and contact the NSPCC - sorry if this sounds harsh but so is smacking a 15mth vulnerable baby

moondog · 22/01/2007 22:04

He sounds absolutely dreadful.
Hitting a baby because he won't sleep-!
What a wanker!

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