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Lies in family court

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angryangryyoungwoman · 07/06/2016 18:21

My ex has written various malicious, completely untrue things on the court application form for child contact. These will all be proven to be untrue once we are at court but in the meantime, the stress of these accusations will be having their effects on me and my family. I just wanted to know, and hopefully be reassured by other peoples experiences if you don't mind, on how the court will treat someone who has made deliberately false accusations. Will it have an impact on child contact? My ex has shown himself to be a liar on many occasions in the past which will be evidenced as well but I just can't believe that someone willing to make up such awful things would get away with it once in court. As I said, he will be proven to be a liar but is there any punishment at all given by the court? Anyone have any experience?

For background, he is verbally and mentally abusive, he has damaged property and contact has been stopped because of this, harassment and emotional abuse of dd.
The allegations he is making are of non existent physical abuse of him by myself and family, my substance abuse, and he is accusing a member of my family of having child pornography.
I am speaking to women's aid and they said malicious accusations are common in family court from men who have been abusive.

It will obviously reflect badly on him in court but I just wanted to see if anyone has experienced similar and what the outcome was.
Cafcass are going to do a section 7 report, which I welcome, as my dd is safe, well and happy and the cafcass officer does seem balanced and kind. I'm just really upset today that this nasty man is trying to do anything he can to cause trouble. Will he get away with it?

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angryangryyoungwoman · 08/06/2016 20:18

Sounds as though I am going to have to push the fact that I think his lies stem from a personality disorder or some kind of mental health issue which would impact on how he parents

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Lelloteddy · 08/06/2016 22:49

You won't be able to make those claims ( or at least have them taken into account) without proof/medical and psychiatric.

angryangryyoungwoman · 09/06/2016 08:48

Lelloteddy, i am just guessing what the issues are, I would not be so specific in court but I will say I have concerns which I think should be looked into

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bibliomania · 09/06/2016 09:16

You're better off focusing on specific problems with contact (things he has already done) than pushing the angle of suspected diagnoses. The judge in my case summed it up along the following lines - "I don't know if you [ex] are deliberately doing it or whether you can't help it; we have no expert evidence on your mental condition. However, the impact on the child is ...... as shown by the evidence of.....".

A major barrier to being able to bring evidence of psychiatric issues to court is that of expense - who's going to pay for an expert assessment? Don't expect the court to do so.

angryangryyoungwoman · 09/06/2016 09:27

Thanks bibliomania, the phraseology is very important and what you said is very useful, thanks.

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Offred · 09/06/2016 09:35

My ex did things like this. The result was he didn't get a contact order. His claim was deemed vexatious and dismissed. The judgement was I had never denied contact and he got a lecture "you have said some of the worst things you can say about a woman, never mind the mother of your children".

Offred · 09/06/2016 09:37

Dealing with specific issues with contact is great advice, I did that too. Though the court also made some temporary orders which he fucked up every time by not turning up or cancelling (and fucking up my kids) before reaching the ultimate judgement.

A few years after he was diagnosed with BPD by the NHS.

angryangryyoungwoman · 09/06/2016 11:27

Offred, thanks, that is really helpful and describes what is happening and has happened with my situation perfectly. I have not stopped contact until it became impossible to do it safely and he has behaved appallingly throughout towards myself and my daughter. He keeps using the phrase "game" and he certainly seems to have been treating everything as one which won't reflect well on him I'm sure

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