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Living under my Mums shadow, ruining our lives.

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sugarplumfairy28 · 01/06/2016 07:13

Sorry in advance this is most likely to be long winded.

I used to have a very very good relationship with my Mum. She would look after our children 2-3 days a week while I worked full time. If I didn't see her in a day we would call each other.

3 ish years ago DH and I decided we were going to emigrate (rent in Germany). We went to my parents to tell them of our decision. The plan then changed due parents needing to sell their house and wasn't going to be left with enough capital to buy in the UK. Long story short, parents would buy a house (specifically a 2 generation house, very common here) which suited both our needs. DH and I would pay household bills. The house in my inheritance.

So 2 years ago, we came house hunting, we found a house but it didn't meet mine and DH's needs. In the long run it could do, but even in the short term it wasn't good. My parents really wanted the house, and promised that certain things would be done within 2 or 3 months to make it livable. I took them at their word and agreed we would go for this house.

It's hard to explain, the house is 4 story's in total. Cellar, ground floor, 1st floor and 2nd floor which is only part converted. Mum has the cellar and ground floor. The only entrance is on the ground floor. The 1st floor is sort of split in two. There are 2 bedrooms off the landing, and a partition with a door, behind this door is our living room, kitchen, bathroom and one bedroom. This is what we have to live in. The children hate the door and both have expressed feeling isolated being in either of the 2 bedrooms. Last week, I single handily finished installing a kitchen (a gift from my Uncle), we have had work benches and no cupboards for 2 years, Mum actually had a tantrum because it's nicer than hers. The bathroom still isn't finished and is beyond my knowledge to do it, my Dad has given up. I have decorated the living room and all the bedrooms (twice due to a reshuffle) I feel that we have put up with a lot. We had no sink anywhere for 9 months, until one was replaced in the bathroom. The bathroom is mostly covered in bin bags to try and keep it dry. I had no oven or cooking device for 6 months, until my MIL got us a travel oven thing with two hobs on top and have used that for a family of 4.

My Mum has turned into a controlling and manipulative obsessed person. She constantly nags me about paying more than what the bills are, for reasons unknown. She screams and shouts if she doesn't get her way i.e apparently the garden is my problem (despite having no direct access to it) if the grass, which is around a third of an acre, isn't cut, edges and all, we get the slamming of doors, shouting and filthy looks until it is done. They go to bed very early (9pm) and complain endlessly if we are out past that. Mum has told me several times that we can NOT! have any more children, or pets. When DH is at work she talks to me in the horrific way. She completely take the children for granted but Mum actually has a go at the children for 'ignoring' her when my in-laws are over (who the children haven't seen for months). My Mum made a huge huge fuss for my brothers 30th birthday, for mine (in Feb) I literally got nothing, in fact I got a lectre about how it's no big deal, and that when she was 30 it was no big deal, her gift to me was babysitting the night before so DH and I could go to someones housewarming party, I hadn't been out socially since the July before... which was actually a BBQ we hosted and my parents actually offended our guests so much they left.

DH has a 3 hour each way commute and is very tired. Our children are not happy, I think partly because Daddy is basically a weekend Daddy and this constant bad air in the house. We are waiting for a call on a new job for him. We're not in a position to move out due to money, and if we do, I will lose my Dad (who isn't the problem but seems like a beaten down shell of what he used to be) and DD will lose her very special relationship she has with him.

I just need a friend, I feel so bullied and low in general

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Badbadtromance · 04/06/2016 18:24

Op I was once where you are now. Get out. I too put up with being screamed at and insulted. Now I am out with my kids I have never felt better. You can do this, you owe it to your kids as I did with mine. I didn't even have a plan and am a single mom. One day it got so bad with my mom I just packed up the kids uniforms and left. Best thing I ever did

clearsommespace · 05/06/2016 07:44

Excellent news. I hope you'll be able to get out of this mess soon!

sugarplumfairy28 · 05/06/2016 08:01

Atenco There is absolutely no way on earth I would have my pets pts. Apart from the fact it would cost me a bomb to do it, which is money that could be put towards getting out, I don't know if a vet would pts a bearded dragon, or fish, and it would be a case of 'getting rid' of all of them otherwise you'd still be left with the same problem. We went to a lot of effort and expense to bring them with us, and if we can move countries with them all we can move house with them. Yep we emigrated with goldfish. To my mind when we got each and every one of our pets, no matter how long ago it was, we took on a responsibility to look after them, to me their welfare is intertwined with ours. One example, my Westie, she is 11 in a few days, she has been my bestfriend and has saved me from some very dark days, I can't just ignore 11 years of love.

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wonkylampshade · 05/06/2016 08:30

Great news about your DH's job! I think you should concentrate on you two and your children now. It's up to your parents what they do - moving out all together may well lead to suggestions and pressure to buy another shared house which you mustn't do under any circumstances.

wonkylampshade · 05/06/2016 08:30

And I totally agree with you and understand your stance where your pets are concerned - they're part of your family.

WelshMoth · 05/06/2016 11:16

Your M also seems to be really lacking in boundaries (asking about DH's pay etc). Blimey.

It's great that your plans can start being considered - how is DH today? Has he started to leave his more manic phase? Bless you OP - you have a lot to cope with Brew

sugarplumfairy28 · 05/06/2016 14:01

She is full of double standards Welsh DH's first job here she asked and we told, this is before things got really bad. Then when she was telling anyone and everyone that he had got a job which is good, she was telling everyone his salary too. So this time around and his current job, that information is and has stayed private. When they finally got this mini job and I was paying for everything, I asked her how much they were going to be asking from me, as I knew they still couldn't cover themselves, and she wouldn't say in case I could work out how much they were earning.

DH came down quite quickly actually, his Hayfever decided to kick in yesterday afternoon, so his more grouchy and irritable then anything else, and wants to be left alone - not too mention it's nearly 30 degrees here today and none us really like hot hot weather.

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Dogolphin · 06/06/2016 18:40

I don't think I would do a survey actually, I think its money better spent on moving out. I don't think your mother will be reasonable however good the reasons for moving are and actually you already have very good reasons; to keep your family happy and to help mend your relationship with your mother by putting some distance between you. If she doesn't see or appreciate this then nothing else will help anyway!

sugarplumfairy28 · 19/06/2016 09:25

After a frustrating week I thought maybe I would update here. DH has had his contract and details through for his new job. It's not been quite plain sailing as the day he handed his notice in a new manager started, who is a bit of a egotistical know it all, and so been treating DH with a bit of contempt. It made DH very on edge and depressed.

Friday, after a week of speaking to my Dad on the sly about how we actually feel, DH took the reins and we spoke to my Mother about money. Dad has spoken to her about her temper and she was in the main fairly calm. We won't be giving them anything for 2 months so I can pay off a huge backlog of bills we have. After that we will only be paying our share of the bills. Which significantly reduces what we pay out for.

Mum has since collared me twice about whether this is a permanent thing, as us paying their bills is meant to be a substitute for rent. I've had to point out that yes that is true, but DH and I never expected to have to pay for things they promised us which kinda invalidates any previous agreements and makes our lives in this place difficult and massively unpleasant. Not to mention in the longer term that there is a damp issue, a back porch that needs knocking down and replacing and a roof that will need replacing. None of which were things we agreed to pay.

What did come out though in this chat, was that the house will not be left to me in full and that my brother will have at most a 50% share, less if DH and I pay for structural work to be done. I did also make it very clear that as far as I am concerned we owe them nothing and we are equal as far as us supporting them completely for a year and the list of things I agree we borrowed for them previously.

DH and I will be speaking to a mortgage adviser about our options in the longer term, and we've got a browser tab open all the time on the rentals around here.

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sugarplumfairy28 · 08/08/2016 16:10

I've had a ridiculously hard day, so could only think to come back and type it out in an attempt to calm down. July went to plan, and I gave my Mum nothing, however it has already gone down hill. Despite DH being incredibly clear and to the point, she hasn't given me an option and pretty much marched me to the bank to give her 'our share' for this month, even though we agreed in light of everything we couldn't do that.

Today she has had a strop and is demanding to know when DH and I are going back to paying everything! That she doesn't have enough money to survive the month because of us, and things need to get back to 'normal'. She has completely forgotten everything DH said to her, and is back to making life a pain in the backside. I got moaned at and then the cold shoulder as I had to go and get school supplies for DS, rather than giving her money.

Completely unrelated but my Dad has a free website, today I got an email (for another account) that the free accounts are being discontinued as of September 1st. My Dad is useless with tech, and I tried to explain to him what options there are. He took the dog for a walk and then came and asked me if I was BS-ing him to get out of paying for his website. Which I wasn't and never have done.

Wherever I turn today I am being blamed and sworn at because they don't think I'm paying for them, in a way I should be.

It would seem that everything was short lived and I'm in for more months of this poxy abuse.

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