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So desperately unhappy

47 replies

P1X1E · 22/05/2016 19:04

I really don't know where else to turn for help. I'm 7 months pregnant and engaged to the father. Our relationship is just so rocky that yet again I'm in tears about how we are ever going to make it work. We've been together for almost 3 years, both have kids from previous relationships but just seem to fall out constantly. He moved 100 miles to live with me in my home with my children which is wonderful but it all happened a bit quickly really.. But it was because he lived so far away that made it difficult to see each other casually.. He'd insist on driving up 3 or 4 times a week but would have to get up (and wake me up) at 5am to get to work on time. It made sense for him to start looking for a job near me. He found one surprisingly quickly.

There are a couple of issues we lock horns on, one is him smoking marijuana. Before he moved in, there was no mention of him smoking it, in fact he said quite the opposite. Doesn't do it, used to and used to smoke normal cigarettes too but stopped. Well that turned out to be utter bs. His mental health issues have also come to light having been hidden deeply to begin with. Chronic low self esteem, self harm which obviously impacts on our relationship. I found him a counsellor who seems next to useless as it turns out. I hate him smoking weed because I've read it exacerbates mental health issues. He says no it doesn't. Only if you smoke it loads and anyway he is a grown up and should be allowed to make his own choices. We argue about it. I can understand if we're at a party and its being passed around but to stand outside in the garden, in the pouring rain, by yourself smoking a joint - I think that's a bit different.

I own this house outright. He has nothing and yet gets really upset when I disagree with him on where I would like one of my pictures hung on the walls of my house. I had the audacity to say I didn't think the 70's were famed for their furniture design to which he took exception and said I was opinionated, stuck in my ways and what about his point of view? He says that he has no say, is bullied (?) has no voice etc.. I pointed out that I've asked his opinion on EVERYTHING I've bought for the house and bought nothing that he said he didn't like. He pointed to a clock and said 'you didn't ask me about that clock. I like it though'.

He does contribute financially - he felt paying a quarter of all the bills was about right as my two little children live here (I work part time). This works out to little more than he gives his ex in child maintenance and he doesn't even live there! Is that normal? He mows the lawn and pulls the wheelie bin to the front of the house once a week. That is the total of his contribution.

We had been getting on well but then he said yesterday that he doesn't know how we are ever going to agree on how to raise our child. He's previously said that if it's a girl, she is not to wear pink (?) When I met his kids (they were 6 & 8) they didn't even know how to hold a knife and fork! He obviously blamed his ex entirely for this.

It sounds like it's all awful, of course it's not always or he'd have been long gone. When it's good, it's amazing and I love him very much but it's becoming increasingly more difficult with him being critical a lot. If I have a different opinion to him on something and voice that opinion, in his book that makes me opinionated. He claims to have very little money but thinks it's a great idea to get both his arms completely tattooed.. I said I didn't like that look much.. By his reaction, you'd have thought I'd called his mother a whore! Oh my god!! Why do I NEVER support him in anything?!! (I do in EVERYTHING, apart from in the smoking and tattoos) He said he's ALWAYS wanted it done and that he's going to save up and get it done. In the end I said 'fine, I'm going to save up too. To take my kids on a really nice holiday. You and your kids can sit here and look at your new tattoos'

It flips so quickly from it being lovely between us, to me just wanting him to go but now I'm pregnant and stuck. I hope we can figure it out but I just can't seem to get through to him sometimes.

I feel like he tricked me by pretending to be something that he then turned out not to be. I have gently suggested this to him. He presented himself as a clean living, hard working, 'I do all my own housework', easy going kind of guy but if I'd have known he was a joint smoking, lazy, just want to play on my iPad when I get home from work, full arm tattoos kind of guy, I don't think I would have agreed to a date with him. Of course he says I should just accept him how he is and that my love for him should transcend all that just as he overlooks all my faults!

It's the lying and manipulation that's the worst part I think. Eg I asked him recently when he was mid anxiety attack, depressed and panicking because he was struggling to focus at work, to please not smoke joints anymore (at that point he was smoking it every night) - maybe okay just at parties if he absolutely has to but please, please don't buy any more. He actually agreed, broke down in tears and promised he wouldn't buy it anymore. Then a week later I smell it on him and confront him.. The response? 'I promised I wouldn't BUY anymore, I was GIVEN this stuff! What's your problem?!' Back to square one.

I really don't know what to do. I feel so low. I feel like I can't be myself anymore or voice my thoughts on anything for fear of being accused of being a bully or opinionated. He looses his temper in front of my kids which I've told him is an absolute deal breaker and the next time he does it, he can leave.

What do I do? I'm stuck. He has no where else to go. Say he can't afford to live anywhere else and that he'd have to sleep in his car if I kicked him out. I'm at an utter loss. How long do you keep trying?

Advice very welcome. Really struggling.

P

OP posts:
timelytess · 22/05/2016 20:25

Get rid of him now. He is, as said upthread, a cocklodger. You have two little children and you want them to have to grow up with someone who smokes dope and thinks he has a right to boss you about? The phrase is, I think, 'Darling, fuck the fuck off to the far side of fuck, and then fuck off some more.' If he has stuff in your house put it in binliners by the gate. The house is in your name so change the locks. Go through the courts for maintenance for the baby, and let him go to the courts for access.
This man isn't good enough for you or your children.

BertieBotts · 22/05/2016 20:26

Honestly they ALL have a sob story. It's not your responsibility to fix him. Even if you want to, you couldn't anyway.

DraughtyWindow · 22/05/2016 20:27

You always have a choice remember. Do you really want your children to grow up thinking this is what a relationship is? Think long and hard. You can't fix someone else and you can't change them. You can't be in an equal relationship when you feel sorry for them either. The resentment will eat away at you eventually if you let it. He pays one quarter.... and when he's debt free, what will happen then? He's using you love.

pocketsaviour · 22/05/2016 20:35

He IS selfish, but then do are the vast majority of men aren't they? Don't they all try to get away with doing the bare minimum?

I'm a normal person! How the f*ck have I ended up in this relationship

The answer to the second question lies in your reasoning around the first.

Your relationship bar seems to be set very low. Ask yourself where you got this idea that "all men" act like useless shits.

Allalonenow · 22/05/2016 20:37

The getting really upset & self harming when the discussion isn't going the way he wants, isn't him being distressed ~ it's him trying to emotionally blackmail you into giving him the reply/outcome/resolution that he wants.
When nasty and aggressive hasn't worked to beat you into submission, tears will do the trick.

And don't set too much store by his heart tugging dreadful childhood tales or being forced into marriage by his father either, I bet his exwife would tell a different story.

Allalonenow · 22/05/2016 20:40

Whatever you do DO NOT marry him!

AnyFucker · 22/05/2016 20:42

ugh, what a fuck up

hitting himself in the face ?

how did you end up with a dick like this > Very ood question

the next question to ask yourself is "why would I stay with a dick like this" ?

AnyFucker · 22/05/2016 20:42

*good

OTheHugeManatee · 22/05/2016 20:46

Don't marry him, whatever you do. Boot him out, raise the baby on your own. It will be easier than with this whinging, druggie waste of skin hanging around nitpicking.

KindDogsTail · 22/05/2016 20:54

Was miserable, sought relief in drugs, had another baby with the woman who can't get pregnant
Everyone has difficult lives to some extent. A person who seeks relief in drugs is not the sort of person to marry. What about the other baby? What about putting a condom on or having a vasectomy or foregoing the sex?

He sounds extremely manipulative. Don't get into arguments. He'll always have an answer. Poor me hitting his head etc is in fact extremely aggressive behaviour in disguise and in its effect it is as coercive and abusive as hitting you..

He may well also act absolutely full of love, will to drive to see children/you, and full of charm etc. But he also sounds like a narcissist and it is typical for one of them to have a charming character. It is a survival tool to make them seem more attractive than a good, nice boring man. It works quite often too!

You are feeling so unhappy because you know something is badly wrong.

It sounds as though his family should be in a position to help him. He does not need to be your business.

AnyFucker · 22/05/2016 21:03

you are blaming the "woman who couldn't get pregnant" ?

RunRabbitRunRabbit · 22/05/2016 21:06

He works hard. Well, so do you. So do most people.

Good people who are in debt don't spend their money on drugs and tattoos, especially when they are letting their single parent part time worker pregnant girlfriend pay most of their bills. Junkies do that though. Junkies do that a lot. Assuming they can find a girlfriend willing to subsidise their drugs and tattoos and rent, that is.

You are teaching your children that mummy loves people who take drugs, smell of drugs, get tattoos, and say vile things. Mummy might say she disapproves but her actions say otherwise. That's what mummy thinks a mother should tolerate. BTW, she must also wash the druggies pants and make him dinner and ask his opinion before buying a clock for her own house out of her own money (and not buy it if he doesn't like it).

Why have you not booted him out yet?

QuiteLikely5 · 22/05/2016 21:07

I could not stand this behaviour. I don't think you can either. He isn't your problem and he is a massive problem!

I would tell him your feelings have changed.

You have jumped in far too quickly and he saw he was onto a good thing hence the pregnancy

I really feel sorry for you and your existing kids.

Costacoffeeplease · 22/05/2016 21:23

WTAF? No matter what his good points may be (I can't imagine he has many) there is nothing, nothing that can outweigh this behaviour

Get rid, as soon as possible - if not tonight, tomorrow

P1X1E · 22/05/2016 22:15

Oh my god! Just been reading up on narcissism! He totally fits the description. Utterly charming - most of my friends truly adore him but so self absorbed. Constantly wanting praise and attention.. Thanks so much all of you. Back bone is now back in place. Things are going to change. Xx

OP posts:
BertieBotts · 22/05/2016 22:21

You need to read the abuser profiles by Lundy Bancroft. Two sources I know online (both an extract reproduced with permission from the book "Why Does He Do That") - same text, just choose which formatting you prefer.

Facebook link

Mumsnet link

I reckon your bloke has a bit of The Victim and The Demand Man about him but you might recognise aspects from the other profiles.

Gide · 22/05/2016 22:26

Have you written a pros and cons list? Cos quite frankly, I ain't seeing any pros. He pays a third of bills and your kids are 'paying' with their cm to rid him of his debts? What the actual fuck?

The drugs would be a total deal breaker for me, wouldn't have that anywhere near children. Chavtastic.

Ingray · 22/05/2016 22:41

He pays you a lot less than he should so he can pay off his debts.

That means you are paying off his debts.

Allalonenow · 22/05/2016 22:49

As a first step, why not work out the cost of your household, all utility bills, food, car costs, household goods, community tax etc etc. Do that over say a four month period.
Split the cost in proportion to both your salaries, then show him and say that is what you will be expecting him to contribute from now on.
His reply will tell you a lot about his attitude to you.

At the moment you are funding his drug habit and his debts and his plans for tattoos, none of which are cheap and none of which you approve of.

Necessary · 22/05/2016 22:51

When you say that things are going to change, op, if your OH is a narcissist, he won't really be able to change that. You have a good, stable position without him - I think you should get him out of your house as quickly as possible, pack up his things and change your locks. And don't fall for his charm, promises and apologies.

Lilacpink40 · 22/05/2016 23:10

You're not stuck. You're an adult and can say 'no' at any point. Having said that, you'll have lots of grief to end this, but it sounds like you're looking for support to make the decisions and changes that you already know you'll have to make. Would you feel relieved if he went away? If yes then focus on that end goal! Best wishesFlowers

MusicIsMedicine · 24/05/2016 09:58

Posted but lost it.

Alarm bells everywhere here. Cannabis induced psychosis is one of them. How long until he's punching you in the face and not himself?

He's conned you wholesale as to who he really is and done a right number on you. Telling you where you can hang a picture in your own home that you own whilst you're subsidising his life and his debt is un-fucking-believable! Stand up for yourself! He is staking a claim in your space and your home!

He will destroy your life. The weed addiction is progressive and he will get worse and worse. Change the locks. Get him out ASAP. Deal with the pregnancy and how you proceed separately.

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