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Heartbroken after 5 year relationship

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heybabes · 20/05/2016 11:37

Me and my boyfriend (ex) were together for 5 years, lived together for a while, had a dog together. We almost had a child but unfortunately it didn't work out which is something we were very upset by but unfortunately not ready for. We have been living apart for a year now, due to financial difficulties (he took out a loan, I was at uni and couldn't find a job where we lived) with the aim of saving up and moving back in together. He lives on his military camp, and I moved back in with my parents about 3 hours away from him. This has caused a lot of stress between us and we have argued a lot over the last year and my ex has gradually become very controlling, unpredictable and nasty. He has also been trying to move up in his job which he hates, but to no avail which has made him stressed, too.

I tried so many times to work our relationship as it was very hard. Unfortunately he didn't want to talk about how he was truly feeling, despite showing signs of depression and anxiety. He hated not having our own place again and having no money, and all the driving to see me. I have always been there for him, but it has been hard as he has taken a lot of his stress out on me which has caused big arguments and upset, lots of near-breaking up but also lots of making up as well as we do love each other a lot.

We had a huge argument over a week ago as he was pretty nasty to me, and he told me he just wanted to buy a house with me. I said we can't, not whilst it's like this and we couldn't get a mortgage anyway until he'd paid his loans off. I think this hit him quite hard - a bit of reality. However, we decided to have a big talk last weekend - I stayed over at his parents -about everything and how we would move forward through this difficult time, and for once we resolved things and admitted how much we loved each other and shouldn't be taking out our stress on each other. It seemed like I was finally getting through - he said it didn't matter because our living situation wasn't permanent, we would see how it goes, we'd keep saving for the moment, I would look for a new job nearer him and just be happy. We were then very loved up, he told me I was everything to him and I felt so happy that we were going to move past this.

I got the train back home on the Sunday morning, feeling absolutely great. I got home, opened my laptop to start applying for jobs to be near my love, where I found all his iMessages coming through to the laptop (it's one we've always shared). I didn't recognise a number he'd been speaking to, but it said things like 'morning beautiful' and 'can't wait to see you'. These messages indicated he had met someone else on the Thursday night (before he'd seen me) and he'd taken her out for lunch on the Friday (same day he'd seen me and told me he was in traffic all day).

I called him and confronted him about it, and he said he hadn't been happy for ages and he wanted to see what it was like with someone else. We talked a little bit but he had to go and we ended the conversation with 'love you'.

I was still in shock though and very angry, and had already text the girl's number saying 'Your messages have come through to mine and his laptop, we're in a 5 year relationship and we spent the weekend together with our dog and his parents!'. When my ex found this out, he called me back straightaway and went mental - saying that I was crazy - and that he had to apologise to this girl on my behalf. He then said he wanted to break up with me, so I said 'ok then' and hung up, but he called back again saying 'I didn't mean it. I just don't know what to say I am so angry at you. Let's speak later when I've calmed down.'

I then got a text from the girl again, saying 'I've just spoken to him and he said you broke up months ago and he didn't spend the weekend with you'. I was so upset and angry I went out with my friends, drank a lot, so when he called later on in the day I ignored it as I didn't want to speak to him.

I tried to speak to him the next day, apologised for not taking his calls and he said we can speak after work. I panicked and told him I loved him, he was my best friend, I never wanted to lose him. He read this but didn't reply. I then called him after work. He didn't respond. He read my messages but ignored me. I called him a couple of times and said can we talk? He read them all and ignored me. I didn't want to continue grovelling, considering what had I done wrong? So I deleted his number so that he would have to contact me when he was ready.

It's now Friday and he still hasn't spoken to me. I am absolutely broken inside. This was my best friend and partner for 5 years. Every decision I made, all my life plans, all my belongings, my whole routine, my whole LIFE was with him. We were partners. And now he has dropped me like this, for the first person who has given him a bit of attention, and doesn't even have the courtesy to say sorry or even speak to me at all.

I know its easy to say 'better off without him' but I'm really struggling to see it like that at the moment. He was my whole life and I care about him so much. We've had some tough times, fallen out a lot and sometimes felt a lot of hate for him, but I've never fallen out of love with him. We've always gotten through it as we love each other. Now it seems like none of this ever mattered to him.

I don't know if he'll come to his senses or not. We didn't even break up. Part of me thinks if he definitely wanted to end it he would have said, but he hasn't even spoken to me and just ignored me. I don't know.

He usually picks me up from work on Fridays as he stays over at mine at the weekends so I guess I feel like maybe he will get in touch soon, or maybe he's had enough of me now and moved on. I'm absolutely devastated.

If anyone has any advice or has gone through something similar, or can try and tell me what he might be thinking or what I should do, I would really appreciate it because I am just at a complete loss at the moment and feel like my life is falling apart.

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hellsbellsmelons · 23/05/2016 16:19

my fault for neglecting people for a relationship I suppose
Never ever neglect friendships in favour of 'a man'
Friends will be around forever.
They won't let you down.
Remember that for future relationships.

But I agree with a PP. Bar work is great.
I did this when I split up with my ExH.
It was great and actually I did it for 4 years (used to do bar work in my youth of course).
Got to know so many locals and it was great.
It also filled a bit of my Sunday afternoon rather than wallow at home or shop and spend money.
Instead I was making friends and earning money - win/win

Resilience16 · 23/05/2016 18:08

Another alternative is get out there and do some voluntary work. Loads of different stuff to chose from, doesn't just mean your local charity shop. It will keep you busy, you will meet new people and will be giving something useful back to the community...result!

MusicIsMedicine · 23/05/2016 19:42

Join a gym and start doing things for YOU.

heybabes · 27/05/2016 14:51

Update: still no contact from him.

I'm not really expecting him to for a while, although there is still that part of me that hopes he'll come back. I don't want to feel that way and I know it's wrong to hope that, but still can't really shake it.

My cousin told me that she has told his family what really happened (i.e. the cheating and then not talking to me) and they are all very disappointed in him and think he is a coward, and he hasn't been home or anything or said much at all about it.

I think he has GIGS and it's easier to just cut me out rather than sort out our relationship, hence why he has freaked out and just left and ignoring me, rather than even saying to me that he wants to break up. He has so many issues that he buries his head in the sand about, and now unfortunately he has made me one of them. I think he is heading for a mental breakdown.

I need to make sure that I do not go down this route either. I am trying to keep busy and make plans with old friends, as I have said before the relationship distanced me from my friends a bit, and as we were supposed to move in together this summer in another location, I didn't really bother with what I have here so this is becoming very hard.

I also feel like the relationship has left me with very low self-esteem so I am finding it hard to get the confidence to do new things, but my family are helping and I am so lucky to have them there for me. I also started a group CBT course for self-esteem this week which I hope will be helpful as even with or without the break up, I know I have been very co-dependent and as people have mentioned I have lost the 'me' in the relationship.

I know I need to learn to like doing things alone and not be afraid of weekends etc. I'm going to try and watch new series, read new books and take some time out for me every day. Hopefully this will begin to heal the pain.

Further advice welcome though! :) I find the mornings particularly hard as I keep waking up after having a dream that everything is fine and then wake up at square one again.

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hellsbellsmelons · 27/05/2016 15:07

You really are doing all the right things.
This will take time.
Give yourself that time.
You do sound stronger already though so keep going.
I hope the CBT really helps you.
Get out and about with friends, you'll be amazed by yourself when you do.

Resilience16 · 27/05/2016 15:53

Hi, believe me you are doing really well, it's still early days, so be kind to yourself. Two quick suggestions...have a look at the Couchsurfing website and maybe consider either hosting or volunteering to show people round your home town. I've done both and it is a great way of keeping busy and meeting new people from all around the world. I loved it, only really stopped when I had my daughter, am planning to get back into it this summer.
Second suggestion..I have a problem with Sundays, always have and more so since we split . After a few Sundays of feeling like throwing myself down the stairwell (!) I got my daughter to do me a little poster saying I Love Sundays and I've got it stuck buy bed. Sounds ridiculous but it actually seems to work and I have been more positive about Sundays than I've been in years. It's gotta be worth a try!
Also exercise definitely helps. I'm no gym bunny but love my Zumba classes, they are a great laugh and I feel so much better afterwards, mentally and physically. I go to an early session and it really does improve my mood throughout the day. See if you can find something you like, and give it a go.
Keep on keeping on ,lady x

heybabes · 29/05/2016 21:44

Hi guys me again. Sorry to be a nuisance I just don't really know what to make of this

He sent me an email (email?! What!) saying: He sent me an email saying 'hey, can you call me when you're free this week when you can. Hope you're ok x'

Wtf. 2 weeks of nothing then an EMAIL saying this!! What is going through his mind and what do I do? My best instinct is telling me to ignore and NC. it's made me angry that he just sends an email after all of that. Bit late after 2 weeks to just talk. If he's just going to tell me what I already know (I.e that it's over) id rather not hear it. I feel like I've made a bit of progress since last week and I really don't want to go back to square 1.

My mum thinks he's testing the water to see if he's still in there with me as its finally hitting him what's happening as I haven't been grovelling to him this time.

Grrrrrrrr I hate him!!!!!!!!Angry

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heybabes · 29/05/2016 21:46

&I thank you for your advice resilience16 I'm definitely going to join the gym and start some classes! Today I ran the Westminster mile in green park which I wouldn't have usually done and felt great to be out doing something different and social!!!

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Resilience16 · 29/05/2016 23:09

Hi there, glad to hear you got out there for that run and enjoyed it, well done.
Argh! The old "contact me" email ploy. Don't fall for it!This ain't him begging forgiveness, asking for a second chance and admitting the error of his ways. He is just trying to exert some control over you again and trying to reel you back in. Your mum is right.The "I hope you are ok" actually translates as "I can't believe you've not been in touch and I want to know what you are up to" and the "ring me when you can" is just another attempt to manipulate you and draw you back in.
I know it's easy to to look back and hanker for the good times but don't weaken, remember all the crap that he has put you through and the reasons why you split.
As you so rightly surmise if you do contact him it will be more crap, more mind games and you will end up back at square one.It really isn't worth it.
NC is the way to go. You can do it!

hellsbellsmelons · 30/05/2016 08:15

He is a cock but this is your life and your call.
I'd be tempted to ignore for now.
Maybe don't call this week and see what happens.
Keep running and exercising.

heybabes · 30/05/2016 16:45

Thanks everyone, I haven't contacted him and remained NC.

He sent me a couple more messages later on in the evening asking to call, saying how much he missed me and he's been having nightmares about how he acted, that he hasn't seen anyone else and has no interest (liar) and that he doesn't want us to be unhappy or make me unhappy.

He then sent a later one after I didn't respond saying it broke his heart to delete the photos of me on Instagram and he is a broken man because of this.

I'm sorry but I'm a bit confused... I thought he was the one who cheated on me, denied my existence to another girl and then ignored me for 2 weeks. There's no apology from him, just trying to make me feel bad about how he's feeling. No concern about how cheating on me might make me feel after a 5 year relationship.

I think I'm gonna stay NC and see what happens. I haven't blocked his number, he can call me if he needs to. He's not asking to get back together, just further manipulating I think and making everything about him again. It's crazy.

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hellsbellsmelons · 30/05/2016 21:28

You have it together and you certainly have his number.
Everything you say is right.
It's still all about him.
I honestly think you've dodged a bullet.
He really is a dick and you can do and deserve a lot better.
And you know it!!!!

PeppermintPasty · 30/05/2016 21:33

Well done, bloody well done! The manipulative con artist.

Wow, he is really throwing it all at you because one little email didn't send you running to him.

Forget this arse. If you went back to him, or even just contacted him, he would punish you for moving on, big time.

He absolutely wants you back on a string. So blatant. Stay strong, he is a liar and a control freak.

princessmi12 · 30/05/2016 21:42

I told you it would not work out with the OW

diamond457 · 30/05/2016 21:47

Stay strong! I went back in your situation and it happened again secretive messages, online flirting, chatting to girls on nights out. Trust was gone and it wasn't a happy relationship after that.
Go get your own life and keep moving forward every day. You are a strong woman with self respect and dignity...massive well done to you

Resilience16 · 30/05/2016 23:28

Don't believe any of his bollocks. My EA ex did the hope you are ok thing after a few weeks of NC. I ignored, which then prompted the how he was a broken man, how he was done with love because of me and would "remain a loner now for ever"…unfortunately (or maybe fortunately!) he had already been spotted with a new profile on POF, so I responded with say "oh well good luck on POF, I'm thinking about joining the ToyBoy Warehouse"... childish I know but it amused me.
He wasn't quite as amused, but hey ho.
Onwards and upwards.

magoria · 30/05/2016 23:32

If it doesn't work out with OW then keeping you on the back burner gives him a nice safe, comfy ego boost of someone who still wants him to fall back on.

Stay NC. He doesn't deserve any response.

heybabes · 01/06/2016 12:35

Thank you for all of your responses, you all have such good advice and cheer me up when I need it.

Unfortunately you're all going to hate me as I just caved in and ended NC after 18 days. The last 3 days since he emailed have been driving me absolutely insane and I just couldn't do it. I wasn't strong enough.

I don't think what I said was bad, although I feel bad for responding at all. All I said was 'My number is xx if you want to call. Hope you're ok.'

So I'm not calling, I'm not saying 'miss you too' or anything like that - playing into his manipulation. I was thinking about it and I thought it would be silly not to reply at all, but I felt this doesn't look too attached or needy, particularly as I left it for 3 days, but at the same time not frosty.

After all I think for my own peace of mind I want to hear what he has to say. If he doesn't apologise or show any remorse then it is clear I have to move on. Although now I've set myself into panic mode 'what if he doesn't reply or call waaaaaaa'.

God I'm so pathetic! I wish I was better than this. I just miss him so much.

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Resilience16 · 02/06/2016 01:08

Missing him is understandable, you'd been together for 5 years. But please don't look back with rose tinted glasses, he has cheated on you and fucked you over royally.
I read somewhere recently that cheaters cheat because they fundamentally don't respect their partners, and if you take a cheater back they respect you even less which is why they usually go on to cheat again and again.
You aren't pathetic, you're just human, so cut yourself some slack. But seriously, even if he apologises could you ever trust him again? From my own experience it is just dragging out the inevitable and making it even more painful for yourself when it happens again after 6 years or 10 or 20. Do you really want that?
You deserve better, and you know you do .

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